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    My bad, I forgot his other program only writes images (to stay out of trouble with copy p0lice) hence the name imageburn.

    So you open the disc iso with apache and extract the inner iso. And when you open the inner iso with apache there is no file list. The disc iso from alcohol gives you an error in apache. You said the inner iso that you extracted with alcohol opens fine in apache.

    I would try this: Create iso file from disc (you already did this part). Use alcohol to extract inner iso (you already did this part). Use apache to open this inner iso from alcohol (if I understood you correctly, this inner iso (from alcohol) opens correctly in apache (the inner iso extracted with apache is the one that does not show any files). With apache, extract the ini file and edit it, adjust the size, with apache update the inner iso (originally extracted with alcohol), use apache to update the disc iso with this edited iso (even thought the disc iso is from apache and the inner iso is from alcohol). Worth a shot? Then burn the disc iso to disc with alcohol (if you can with demo). Definitely burn with an iso burning program. I am pretty sure you need to preserve the disc structure.

    What is the name of the ini file you are editing? There is also version 2 of apache, it has some visible changes from the previous version. It might work better for you. Good luck.
    Last edited by JLM; 06-13-2011 at 08:47 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JLM View Post
    Well I thought it would, but from the name "imageburn", I am now wondering does it just burn images to disc, sorry, I though it did both read and write iso's.

    So you open the disc iso with apache and extract the inner iso. And when you open the inner iso with apache there is no file list. The one from alcoho gives you an error in apache. How about mount the inner iso in the virtual drive, edit the file, then use apache to update the disc iso with the newly edited inner iso.

    I have to go for now. I know there are lots of other programs for iso's, I have a few more but haven't really used them, so I will look into it. How big is the inner iso? I did warn you I don't have much experience with fiddling with iso's and only simple stuff.
    I can't edit the inner ISO after mounting with alcohol because alcohol only has a virtual dvd reader...
    The inner ISO is about 118MB

    And OK, see ya later.
    THX for the help, and I hope you help me find a solution when you come back.
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    Okay, edited my post above, see if I'm making sense now. The few times I edited iso's it worked without error messages, so I'm just trouble shooting it same as you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JLM View Post
    My bad, I forgot his other program only writes images (to stay out of trouble with copy p0lice) hence the name imageburn.

    I thought as much V_V

    So you open the disc iso with apache and extract the inner iso. And when you open the inner iso with apache there is no file list. The disc iso from alcohol gives you an error in apache. You said the inner iso that you extracted with alcohol opens fine in apache.

    All is correct except that last line.
    The inner ISO opens in apache "with no error messages that crash the program" but it still doesn't show a file list.


    I would try this: Create iso file from disc (you already did this part).
    Check, though I have to do it with apache because the ISO created with alcohol gives an error
    Use alcohol to extract inner iso (you already did this part).
    CHECK!
    Use apache to open this inner iso from alcohol (if I understood you correctly, this inner iso (from alcohol) opens correctly in apache (the inner iso extracted with apache is the one that does not show any files).
    And this is where the problem is, neither inner ISO (extracted with apache OR alcohol will show a file list)
    With apache, extract the ini file and edit it, adjust the size, with apache update the inner iso (originally extracted with alcohol), use apache to update the disc iso with this edited iso (even thought the disc iso is from apache and the inner iso is from alcohol). Worth a shot?
    It would be but this is the part I can't get too. "see above comment"
    Then burn the disc iso to disc with alcohol (if you can with demo). Definitely burn with an iso burning program. I am pretty sure you need to preserve the disc structure.
    I thought that preserving the original disk structure would be important.
    What is the name of the ini file you are editing? There is also version 2 of apache, it has some visible changes from the previous version. It might work better for you. Good luck.
    My comments in "read" I'll check out version 2 and make a list of files for you, just give me a bit ^^;
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    Quote Originally Posted by JLM View Post
    Okay...
    Here's the FULL process.

    I stick my game disk into the cd-drive, and it pops open.
    ---i'd copy the files, but I need to preserve the original format of the disk.
    I tell alcohol to create a PS2 format disk.
    ---it will only allow MDS and CCD images which apache can't open.
    I tell alcohol to create a custom disk so ISO is an allowed output format.
    ---Apache crashes trying to open this ISO,
    ---despite me being able to extract the internal ISO using alcohol,
    So I create an ISO image from the disk using apache instead.
    ---this "apache disk" ISO opens in apache correctly, and shows the filelist.
    So I extract the internal ISO from it as well.

    To sumerize, I have:
    An "Alcohol Disk" ISO and it's "alcohol extracted" internal-ISO
    AND
    An "Apache Disk" ISO and it's "apache extracted" internal-ISO

    Both internal ISO files can open in alcohol and shows that all files are there.
    AND both internal ISO files can open in apache,
    BUT... neither shows a filelist.
    SO I can't extract OR overwrite anything in these ISO files.
    (this is the main problem - even if I get the files that I need to edit using alcohol "from either internal-ISO" - Neither alcohol or apache can overwrite them back into either internal-ISO)

    THE FILE LIST:
    SLUS20380 (original disk OR disk image)
    ---Data (folder)
    ---DATA.ISO
    ---AND 12 files

    ===Contents of "DATA" folder:
    MUSIC (folder)
    ---31 files
    SOUND (folder)
    ---DINO (folder)
    ------27 files
    ---PEOPLE (folder)
    ------2 files
    ---WORLD (folder)
    ------3 files
    ---AND 3 files

    ===Contents of "DATA.ISO" file: disk label "SIMJP"
    DATA (folder)
    ---GUI (folder)
    ------3DCURSOR (folder)
    ---------8 files
    ------BOOTLOCALES (folder)
    ---------9 files
    ------LOCALES (folder)
    ---------9 files
    ------AND 10 files
    ---MATLIBS (folder)
    ------97 files
    ---MEMCARD (folder)
    ------1 file
    ---MISSIONS (folder)
    ------22 files and a folder containing 76 files
    ---MODELS (folder)
    ------165 files
    ---MOVIES (folder)
    ------3 files
    ---PARTICLE (folder)
    ------18 files
    ---SAVEGAME (folder)
    ------contains 1 empty folder
    ---TERRAIN (folder)
    ------1 file and a folder containing 70 files
    ---UNITS (folder)
    ------284 files (and a folder containing 46 files and 2 folders: containing 59 and 24 files)
    ---AND 30 files


    The "AND 30 files" at the bottom in BOLD...
    Includes the files that I want to change.
    AKA: "FSLHUNT.INI", and "CONSTANT.INI"
    Code:
    I wish to change this:
    #ifdef TOSHI_SKU_PS2
    	maxchosen = 3;
    	starrating[0] = 0;
    	starrating[1] = 1;
    	starrating[2] = 3;	
    	//starrating[3] = 3;	// Unlock last two at 3 stars
    TO THIS:
    #ifdef TOSHI_SKU_PS2
    	maxchosen = 9;
    	starrating[0] = 0;
    	starrating[1] = 1;
    	starrating[2] = 3;
    	starrating[3] = 5;
    	starrating[4] = 5;
    	starrating[5] = 5;
    	starrating[6] = 5;
    	starrating[7] = 5;
    	starrating[8] = 5;
    Code:
    I'd also like to change this:
       MaxDinoPopulation =  60;
    TO THIS:
       MaxDinoPopulation =  100;
    I hope this explains the WHOLE problem better ^^;
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    Quote Originally Posted by chacyung View Post

    But this is the ISO that gave me the error.
    Ironically I opened the ISO with alcohol 120 and copied the internal ISO from it that way.
    THAT ISO opened just fine with apache.
    So it didn't throw an error message ("opened just fine") but no file list.
    I am sure you have seen other iso editing programs, too. I've only ever evaluated any briefly. I'll have to look around. That game is expensive on amazon. You don't really have to give me a filelist, was just curious. It's not important. I have been no help so far. If you want, I can delete all my posts here and maybe someone else will help you.
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    I was too slow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JLM View Post
    So it didn't throw an error message ("opened just fine") but no file list.
    I am sure you have seen other iso editing programs, too. I've only ever evaluated any briefly. I'll have to look around. That game is expensive on amazon. You don't really have to give me a filelist, was just curious. It's not important. I have been no help so far. If you want, I can delete all my posts here and maybe someone else will help you.
    I won't ask anyone to delete there posts.
    Just because we haven't found a solution yet,
    doesn't mean we won't.
    I AM PERSISTANT !!! ^.^ LOL

    Besides, I also like to be thorough.
    I would have listed all the individual file names as well, if there hadn't been QUITE so many ^^;
    WOW, I didn't think my game was that price-y now a days.
    Ironically it was the first PS2 game that my PS2 gave me a "read disk error" on.
    (I had to have the laser replaced shortly after that)
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    Oh, yea, don't give up. I meant only my (unhelpful) posts. Not your question/explanation of your situation.
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    Isn't there a cheat code to unlock digs? Not familiar with the game, but thought I saw some codes for unlocking something.
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