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  1. #1 Need to get this straight 
    hayaku is offline Registered User
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    Ok, I have read this and that... now I want to know whats the correct answer.
    Some guys say that you should burn the games at lowest speed possible (1x/2x/4x) and some say that you should burn the speed that the media is. For example Verbatim 8x.
    Some people say that if you burn faster than 4x your ps2 will not boot them, but others say that it's just and old myth and its better to burn what the media says.

    Need an answer here... what is the correct one?
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    would like to noe this too been reading that 4x is quite a suitable speed for the verbatim 8x, nothing more nothing less?
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    There is no issue I've ever had, seen, heard of, etc. from burning a disc at less than its "rated" speed. If this were true, there would be a lot of people with older burners in a few years who would have tons of unsuccessful burns because they could only get media rated faster than their burner's max speed.

    I burn DVDs at 2x or 4x and CDs at 16x and my PS2 reads them all super fast, no skipping or reading problems. Nothing is universal..burners are not created equal so try what's best for you. As a general rule of thumb, the slower the burn, usually the better the chance of a good copy and less read errors in the console.
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    I burned a few at 8x and the rest at 4x. They all work fine on my unit, but I also used good quality media. If your burner isn't good quality or your media isn't good quality you will get bad discs if you burn them at high speeds. Bad quality burners will not catch their own errors and they'll think that the burn was successful. But when you pop that disc in your PS2, it won't read.

    Who ever said that you should burn at the rated speed is an IDIOT! The speed written on the disc just tells you the MAX speed it can go. It's just like horsepower on cars. Most of the time they just write 255bhp, but the detailed specs say 255bhp@6500rpm. Does your car give you problems at slow speeds?

    Just to prevent frustation and uneeded coasters, you should burn DVDs@4x, Data CDs@16x, Audio CDs@8x. The first two you can go with higher speeds, but Audio CDs don't have any error checking so they'll skip if you burn them way too fast, like at 48x or something.
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    Nice to know, thanks.
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    Okay sounds good, but however theese guys are telling this guy it's all wrong;http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....94#post1086714
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    Quote Originally Posted by hayaku
    Okay sounds good, but however theese guys are telling this guy it's all wrong;http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....94#post1086714
    Guys,

    Im a dvdburner maniac like the guys in cd-freaks.com and i own like 8 diffrent dvd burners.

    A good rule for pS2 is to burn as you state above, at low speeds, but this is not always true.

    I had a customer burning Taiyo Yuden media (best media in world) @ 2x.
    Result? 38 points in Nero Disc Quality scan.
    Thats a COASTER
    Princo burned at 16x would prob give better scan than that.

    So how come this disk turn out that bad?
    All dvd bruners have diffrent write strategies for diffrent media and diffrent speeds. Ive burned same media on 4x, 8x and 16x (8x media) and found out that the 4x burning is worse than 8x and 16x burning because the burner choose another burning strategy for lower speed.

    Bad media that is ****ed at 8x, will prob be better @ 4x, but that is because its very bad media to start with.

    Conclusion: Burning speed depends on burner and media.
    I usually burn 4x myself on Taiyo Yuden discs, but ive burned 8x and 16x on Taiyo Yuden discs for PS2 myself and had absolut NO PROBLEM at all!

    As long as the quality scan report low PO/PI failures and jitter around 10 the burn is good, whatever speed u used.
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    It doesn't matter what speed you burn the media, It all depends on your ps2, Some ps2 works fine on media that is burn on low speed and some work on low & fast speed, Plus it also matter on what media you used, used better media for the ppl that is having problems, I used all type of media and so far no let down... The only way to find out if your ps2 will read the media at low and fast speed is to try it out on your ps2... Yea ppl can say low speed is better why? Because it works on your ps2? Not all ps2 are the same when it comes to reading, Like two of my friends there ps2 won't read SONYx4 or Applex8 but mines does so once again "Try" differen't speed on your ps2 and see what best work for you......
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    Quote Originally Posted by hayaku
    Ok, I have read this and that... now I want to know whats the correct answer.
    Some guys say that you should burn the games at lowest speed possible (1x/2x/4x) and some say that you should burn the speed that the media is. For example Verbatim 8x.
    Some people say that if you burn faster than 4x your ps2 will not boot them, but others say that it's just and old myth and its better to burn what the media says.

    Need an answer here... what is the correct one?
    Depends on the media you use. If you use high quality media (ie Verbatim/Mitsubishi Chemicals or Taiyo Yuden) then there is no reason not to burn at the max rated speed. Above all make sure you have a good burner and firmware that is up to date. If you follow the above then you should have no problems burning at max rated speed. The issue with slower burns comes with average or cheap quality media and from older burners, ect. Anyways it's not like discs are horribly expensive anymore. Even premium 8x Taiyo Yuden can be had for less than 50 cents a disc with shipping. IMHO it is worth the risk to see if you are capable of burning at higher speeds rather than wasting lots of time because someone else had issues with higher speed burns.
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