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  1. #1 How harmful? 
    Oniak is offline Registered User
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    How harmful are CD-r's and DVD-r''s to my ps2 laser?
    I mean I don't want it to die out in a few months, I would hope it could last at east a year. So how harmful are they?
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    CD's are not good for your PS2,it doesn't matter what they are(original or backups).For DVD's...don't buy the first encountered cheap trash,I recommending you to use Verbatim.And about DVD+R or -R...almost every PS2 has it's own preferences,some will work better with DVD+R other with DVD-R but all of them will work good with DVD-ROM(booktyped DVD+R).

    If your PS2 is v9,10 or some of the first slim models you'll need laser protection because if you don't have it even if you use only original disk,your laser will still die.

    I have v10 PS2 and I've added the protection and from 2-3 years till now I don't have any problems(I had to replace my laser along with the LA chip because I didn't have protection at first)
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    Mine seems to like DVD-R. I usually use TDK dvd-r's which I find great.
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    TDK is not the same TDK as years ago. IMO is already a crap. Not that crap like i.e Emtec but quality is low - really. Use Verbatims from MCC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berion View Post
    TDK is not the same TDK as years ago. IMO is already a crap. Not that crap like i.e Emtec but quality is low - really. Use Verbatims from MCC.
    my current TDK DVD's have been great, No duds and I burn them at 4x, IMO the ones I have at least are perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vsub View Post
    CD's are not good for your PS2,it doesn't matter what they are(original or backups).For DVD's...don't buy the first encountered cheap trash,I recommending you to use Verbatim.And about DVD+R or -R...almost every PS2 has it's own preferences,some will work better with DVD+R other with DVD-R but all of them will work good with DVD-ROM(booktyped DVD+R).

    If your PS2 is v9,10 or some of the first slim models you'll need laser protection because if you don't have it even if you use only original disk,your laser will still die.

    I have v10 PS2 and I've added the protection and from 2-3 years till now I don't have any problems(I had to replace my laser along with the LA chip because I didn't have protection at first)
    In regards to protecting a version 9: link please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vsub View Post
    CD's are not good for your PS2,it doesn't matter what they are(original or backups).
    Sorry but this is not true, this thing about original CD is a myth.
    Over here people say also that original CD hurts the PS2 lens also, when asked about Audio CD people say is fine, an audio CD has a 2352 bytes/sector against CD-ROM XA mode 2 2336 bytes/setor for PS2/PS1 CD's.

    If we would take the byte/sector count from a PS2 DVD that has 2048 bytes/sector an Audio CD is suppose to be even worse to PS2 lenses and that is not the case.

    Take a oscilloscope and check the lens signal to see that any original disc Audio CD, PS2 CD, DVD Video, Ps2 DVD has a normal wave signal. Now check the same signal with any CD-R, DVD-R, DVD+R to see that doesn't matter the brand, manufacturer, how good or bad the media was recorded, the signal is very different from any original disc.

    This happens because, to this day, it is impossible to record/burn a 100% error free disc, you can use the best recorder and the best media and still there will be a small amount of recording errors that the error correction features of the reader will take care of.

    As I and Oliveira discussed in a old topic, the earlier versions of PS2 had a time bomb inside, to trigger that bomb you just had to use any backup media, the coils around the lens will heat up because of the up/down movement of the lens to a point that the coil would go in to a short circuit and damage the lens and his controller, this was not a bug or a flaw on the design, was made to act this way by design, SONY put this there as a "secure feature". I knew this well before the PS2 came out since i've worked there.

    The problem is that if any user put a hard to read original scratched, dirty disc inside the tray the lenses will also go "bye bye".

    I still have the very first one PS2 model SCPH-10000 that i've used from many years to watch DVD, play Audio CD's and play a lot of games in CD format, to this day my PS2 still working. I can't say nothing about models over SCPH-15000 because i don't know and did not work with it.
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