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    Alright, i have read some of the previous posts and they don't really help all that much. I have made several backup copies of my ps2 games but some of them pause and freeze up whenever the movie sequence comes into play. I have burned with IMGBurn and DVD Decrypter (which seemes to work better for me) at various speeds, 1x, 2.5x, 4x, and 8x.
    I have the original games and make and ISO file from them. The game I am currently working on is Kingdom Hearts. I have a slim console ps2 and I have no laser problems since it reads everything that I put into it just fine, such as DVD's, and other ps2 games. I don't know what other info you need in order to help, but I will tell you everything that you need to know if you just let me know what you need. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
    BTW, I am using the ESR Disc Patcher v0.24 to patch the games
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    Quote Originally Posted by pkrhrd1975 View Post
    Alright, i have read some of the previous posts and they don't really help all that much. I have made several backup copies of my ps2 games but some of them pause and freeze up whenever the movie sequence comes into play.
    Such symptoms are typical of read access problems. Sporadic bit errors force the console to retry the reading of some sectors repeatedly before succeeding. The resulting wasted attempts lower the overall transfer rate to the point where glitch-free FMV playback is no longer possible. So you get pauses, freezes and stutters...

    The real cause of those symptoms can be any link in the chain of components and operations involved in the disc reading, but the primary suspects are always the laser unit and the disc itself.

    I have burned with IMGBurn and DVD Decrypter (which seemes to work better for me)
    I always use DVD Decrypter for ripping DVD ISOs from discs and ImgBurn for burning DVD discs (whether from ISOs or selfcomposed). For CDs on the other hand I recommend using Alcohol 120% both for ripping and burning, as this program is aware of CD-specific and PS1/PS2 specific variations (unlike ImgBurn).

    at various speeds, 1x, 2.5x, 4x, and 8x.
    For modern discs of high quality the best speeds are usually not the lowest ones, but either a specific speed it was optimized for, or a speed in the middle of the range it was designed to work with. Often a burner can choose speed correctly itself when setting the burning software to 'automatic' (or equivalent) speed choice. Regardless of your setting, expect the real speed to vary during the burn process. That is quite normal so don't worry about it.

    I have the original games and make and ISO file from them. The game I am currently working on is Kingdom Hearts. I have a slim console ps2 and I have no laser problems since it reads everything that I put into it just fine, such as DVD's, and other ps2 games. I don't know what other info you need in order to help, but I will tell you everything that you need to know if you just let me know what you need. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
    Given what you've said so far, the only reasonable suspect is the disc type used.
    Place an empty disc in the PC tray and start ImgBurn. Then go into the Mode menu and choose 'Write' (don't worry, we won't really write on the disc now). This will show some information about the drive and the disc media in the right half of the window. Here you should scan to the section headed "Pre-recorded Information:" and check out the entry named "Manufacturer ID:". The code following the colon in that line uniquely identifies the disc type, regardless of the retail brand it was sold under.

    For example, I always use "Verbatim 16x AZO DVD-R" discs, which have a manufacturer ID of "MCC03RG20". This means that the real manufacturer of those discs is "Mitsubishi Chemical Corp", who also sell the same discs to other retailers who in turn sell them to customers under various brand names. But the complete manufaturer ID code also identifies the precise media and production methods used, and thus indicates the ultimate quality of the disc type, regardless of the brand name shown when you bought it.

    For any such ID code you can use google to find what experience other users have had with that disc type, and how it placed in generic usage tests.

    BTW, I am using the ESR Disc Patcher v0.24 to patch the games
    That is definitely OK, since it was made by the creator of ESR.
    I use it myself all the time.

    Best regards: dlanor
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    I have read everything you typed in and have made some changes along the way to get things working the right way, however, i now have run into a new problem. I have backup up games that play just fine... a few minor probs that aren't really worth trying to fix, now when i burn the ISO onto a disc, i get a pink screen that will stay put for hours. I have made two dics that came out the same way. The ps2 reconizes the disc, but it doesn't play. Like i said, it gets to a pink screen, no flashes of anyother colors, and locks up... ummmm, help???
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    Quote Originally Posted by pkrhrd1975 View Post
    I have read everything you typed in and have made some changes along the way to get things working the right way, however, i now have run into a new problem. I have backup up games that play just fine... a few minor probs that aren't really worth trying to fix, now when i burn the ISO onto a disc, i get a pink screen that will stay put for hours. I have made two dics that came out the same way. The ps2 reconizes the disc, but it doesn't play. Like i said, it gets to a pink screen, no flashes of anyother colors, and locks up... ummmm, help???
    Your description is much too brief to draw any definite conclusions. A real problem analysis requires a precise description mentioning every major step in how the ISO is made, from initial ripping to final patching, and the precise way of burning it including the media used. In addition to this we also need a similarily precise description of the method used to boot the console and launch the game via ESR.

    You mention none of these, not even ESR patching, nor how ESR is to be activated for which there are several alternatives:

    1: automatic ESR elf invocation by FMCB at boot-time detection of ESR-patched disc
    2: direct ESR elf launch by gamepad button press at FMCB boot
    3: direct ESR elf launch by selection in FMCB main menu
    4: automatic ESR elf launch by uLE MISC/PS2Disc command detecting ESR-patched disc
    5: direct ESR elf launch by uLE FileBrowser
    6: direct ESR elf launch by uLE launch button in uLE main menu

    So if you want more detailed help, you will have to describe the current problem in more detail.

    It's the old GIGOLAW (Garbage In => Garbage Out Law) of all computer problems. We can only work with the parts of the problem you give us, so if you hand us a garbage description, then you will receive a garbage solution...


    Also, I'm a bit surprised that you seem to have totally ignored important parts of my previous post, as you still do not mention the 'Manufacturer ID:" code of the discs you use.

    That is crucial in evaluating the risk that the media quality is causing problems.

    Best regards: dlanor
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