ESR 9B

[JoeLovesBread]

Hi there, I patched a game, burned at 1X with ImgBurn, And I try it on ESR and it doesn't work, aswell, I burned another one with AWS and it worked but the cutscenes are freezing ( Sly Cooper 3 )

Thanks

[eraldorh]

Hi there, I patched a game, burned at 1X with ImgBurn, And I try it on ESR and it doesn't work, aswell, I burned another one with AWS and it worked but the cutscenes are freezing ( Sly Cooper 3 )

Thanks

Burn at 4x and make sure your using decent media eg. cmc or mcc dye, thats verbatim,infiniti,philips

[SP193]

Hi there, I patched a game, burned at 1X with ImgBurn, And I try it on ESR and it doesn't work, aswell, I burned another one with AWS and it worked but the cutscenes are freezing ( Sly Cooper 3 )

Thanks

You should never burn your games at 1x!
Some discs might not receive optimal burning conditions at such low speeds.

In fact, the rule to burn at a lower speed than the maximum only applies to some burners that are unable to burn discs reliably at high speeds.

Try to update your firmware, burn your discs without interrupting the disc burning application and use good quality discs (Important! Unless you don't mind risking your PS2's laser; Look at the bottom of this post for pointers).

Burn at 4x and make sure your using decent media eg. cmc or mcc dye, thats verbatim,infiniti,philips

Don't ever use CMC discs! The quality is not the best.
Use Verbatim DVD-R discs that were manufactured by either Taiyo Yuden or Mitsubushi.

[eraldorh]

You should never burn your games at 1x!
Some discs might not receive optimal burning conditions at such low speeds.

In fact, the rule to burn at a lower speed than the maximum only applies to some burners that are unable to burn discs reliably at high speeds.

Try to update your firmware, burn your discs without interrupting the disc burning application and use good quality discs (Important! Unless you don't mind risking your PS2's laser; Look at the bottom of this post for pointers).



Don't ever use CMC discs! The quality is not the best.
Use Verbatim DVD-R discs that were manufactured by either Taiyo Yuden or Mitsubushi.

Well cmc dye is the only one that works in my ps2 so yes i will continue to use this dispite your poor advice.

[TnA]

Well cmc dye is the only one that works in my ps2

I guess not,... Those dyes react slower and need a higher power-consumption to react, so that's why you need to burn them slower and with a higher 'power-consumption per cycle' (mW the laser uses per round, the disc turns around itself).

http://psx-scene.com/forums/f13/not-...backups-85465/ (Not booting my backups)

so yes i will continue to use this dispite your poor advice.

I ought to remember that not only he gave you this 'poor advice' but I did also, including some explainations which you either seemingly didn't read carefully, or not at all...

CMC is not good,... Point blank.
Don't come here and cry: 'Oh, my laser is busted.', once it happens.
It's not our fault that you use those discs!
...and also this scene is what gives you probably more, than a laser is worth...

-Laptop-DVD-Writers are not good enough
-PC-Writers still need to be of the newer generation, a.k.a. 8xspeed-support and newer, those which only supprt 4x speed can't calibrate their laser-power so good... And in most of those DVD-Writers cases, THIS is the reason why they don't support DualLayer-DVD+/-Rs

[eraldorh]

I guess not,... Those dyes react slower and need a higher power-consumption to react, so that's why you need to burn them slower and with a higher 'power-consumption per cycle' (mW the laser uses per round, the disc turns around itself).

http://psx-scene.com/forums/f13/not-...backups-85465/ (Not booting my backups)



I ought to remember that not only he gave you this 'poor advice' but I did also, including some explainations which you either seemingly didn't read carefully, or not at all...

CMC is not good,... Point blank.
Don't come here and cry: 'Oh, my laser is busted.', once it happens.
It's not our fault that you use those discs!
...and also this scene is what gives you probably more, than a laser is worth...

-Laptop-DVD-Writers are not good enough
-PC-Writers still need to be of the newer generation, a.k.a. 8xspeed-support and newer, those which only supprt 4x speed can't calibrate their laser-power so good... And in most of those DVD-Writers cases, THIS is the reason why they don't support DualLayer-DVD+/-Rs

No you just read outdated info that used to be on 360 forums and then re-write the same crap.

The reason disks used to have to burn at 2x and 2.4x is because older writers could not handle faster speeds, however now even laptop writers can handle faster speeds, but 4x is usually the slowest you should do it at and most of the time the fastest unless your using media that works better the faster it is burned eg. 8x disks that dont support any slower.

All that reaction crap is useless info, people dont need to know what goes on when the disk is burned or after, all they need to know is that it works iv never had trouble with any verbatim disks of any kind no matter where they were manufactured on my 360 and my 360 has the very old and picky hitachi drives with the worst lasers that were ever made and they only boot verbatim disks also and my laser for that is still going after 5 years.

My old ps2 was using verbatim disks exactly the same as im using with my new one and the laser never died on me after 2 years, it only broke after i tried hard modding it.

CMC is good any forum will tell you this, the only dye you can get thats better is MCC just because it isnt the best doesnt mean its not good drill that into your head and accept it ffs.

[TnA]

No you just read outdated info that used to be on 360 forums and then re-write the same crap.

No,... It is common physics, which you seem not to understand.
I re-write the same stuff? Are you stupid?

I'm probably one of the first persons on this planet, which did not spread the myth of slow-writing and I was even accused (mentaly attacked is what I mean) because of that... (from people with another meaning)

I used to work with this particular kind of hardware (and it's internals) since 1997, so don't tell me I simply re-write stuff from other people, without checking the facts first. That's what you're doing here...

I never was on a 360 forum in my life.
I only once registered on an old XBOX-Forum, before the 360 was available...

Stop spreading bullshit, without a proof and check you facts.

The reason disks used to have to burn at 2x and 2.4x is because older writers could not handle faster speeds,

Are you insane? Even my PIONEER-105/A05 from 2003 handles 4x-speed.
You're telling utter crap here.
You're really saying, that in 2005/2006 no-one had a DVD-Writer about 2.4x-speed?

So,... Older burners can't write faster, but what about those which already had 16x-burners, which were available back then already?
Why did they suggest those utter low speeds?

Simply because they re-wrote the same info they read on those forums, without a proof why it is better and without common physical and logical explainations.

however now even laptop writers can handle faster speeds, but 4x is usually the slowest you should do it at and most of the time the fastest unless your using media that works better the faster it is burned eg. 8x disks that dont support any slower.

Laptop-Writers do not have a good laser-calibration-range (atleast back a few years ago and it seems that didn't change).
Conclusion: The result isn't as good as if you would write it on a PC-DVD-Writer...

All that reaction crap is useless info,

No,... It is common physics.

people dont need to know what goes on when the disk is burned or after, all they need to know is that it works

Well, maybe. But the 'reaction crap' is only there to explain the physical behaviour and what happens, so people like you can't spread myths without a proof...

iv never had trouble with any verbatim disks of any kind no matter where they were manufactured

I didn't ever say, that Verbatim is a bad brand, did I?
In fact I even suggest it as my favorite, because it simply is one of the best writeable/recordable DVDs.

on my 360 and my 360 has the very old and picky hitachi drives with the worst lasers that were ever made and they only boot verbatim disks also and my laser for that is still going after 5 years.

There are crapier lasers than your XBOX360-drive.
Sony was sued for adding stuff to their consoles, which let their laser burn out faster with (re)writeable/recordable media.

I please someone to correct me, if I'm wrong!

...and yes, Verbatim is the best brand in my eyes/meaning... (atleast one thing we agree on)

My old ps2 was using verbatim disks exactly the same as im using with my new one and the laser never died on me after 2 years, it only broke after i tried hard modding it.

Did I speak about your hardware's condition?

CMC is good

Is it?

any forum will tell you this,

Well, I guess you found a forum were some informed people have another meaning.

Btw.: Please point me to a reliable source about CMC being good!
CMC-Disc/Manufacturer-ID is known to be faked&abused by multiple companies... (for example those which produce DVD-Rs, but with a stolen Manufacturer-ID)

the only dye you can get thats better is MCC

Tayo Yuden also has a better dye, but MCC is my favourite too.

just because it isnt the best doesnt mean its not good

Just because it works for PC; DVD-Recorders;..., doesn't mean it works reliable in/on a PS2.

drill that into your head and accept it ffs.

...or what? Why should I? You didn't state one good reason and I don't feel punished by your harsh statements.

Don't insult ANYONE of our members here again.
I don't care for myself in this case... I saw you on other threads.

...and just because I'm a Co-Admin doesn't mean I abuse my power to threaten you, ain't I nice?! :P

[Player1]

I use this :

DVD WRITER SAMSUNG EXTERNAL DL

VERBATIM 16X for PS2 GAMES

BENQ CDs for PS1 GAMES (Verbatim is too slim to fit some ps2 fat magnet)

IMGBURN

My external write 3.3x NO MORE and do it perfectly(8x for CD).



If you want a slow speed dvd go for DL(2.2x) or "MOVIE DVDs"(4x) from VERBATIM.

Those are the only way to obtain a good SLOW copy for me.
And i compare my copies to my originals always.

Everybody knows you cant do a 1x copy, cause the real speed is at least 4x for modern dvds(3.3x with samsung external), just look for the real speed info in imgburn, not the one you selected.
I setted speed at 1x permanently, but the REAL ONE is another.

JoeLovesBread:
I think you should try another dvds, but may be your writer is too old and used, without the laser power required.
Try a new writer

My bad english 2 cents.

PS: IF you want a tester copy for your optical unit, just patch an ESR GTA San Andreas and burn it in a Verbatim. It (the game,not the disc)will put your tracking bobine at top effort, if your console can read it, good for you, just clean and lub a bit to mantain it working. Other way enpower the laser or put another laser unit.
Reading problems in a game console are more complex than a dvd or writer condition.

[SerbianBoy]

just patch an ESR GTA San Andreas and burn it in a Verbatim.

What do you say here, that this combination can destroy my PS2 ?

My kids often play this game, and its on Verbatim ....

[TnA]

He meant that this is a good game to test your PS2-Laser, since this game continously streams 'data' from the disc.

But it is still good to play some games from other devices rather than (burned) discs.