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    Quote Originally Posted by Babagadoosh
    Are these good media to use with a version 7 PS2? Also what program does someone recommend to use to burn PS2 DVD games as I am having an issue with them. Thanks
    Verbatims are usually solid. Granted there have been som bad lots in the past, but in general, very reliable. I've been using DataLife's for a while now, no problem (Silver top, Blue print, UPC ends with 94490 on 15pc cake, US).

    It is likely the program's configuration causing the problem. Watch your burn speeds. There are several posts about this. Try at the media's rated speed or 1/2 the rated speed. Try to avoid going any lower than 1/2 the rated speed--it can actually make bad pits and lands and render the disk unreliable with a worn laser assembly.

    Always image the original to disk first, then burn to disk in a second process. Unless you have a high capacity power supply and quality drives, cables, etc. a disk-to-disk copy can have too much margin for error. Some software can disable disk-to-disk copies if it doesn't detect the same drive and firmware. There is a reason for that setting, so it is best to avoid this method.

    Don't run your system with a massive overclock. This can make data transfers and burning a bit unreliable for several reasons. Overdriven buses are more prone to errors due to insufficient voltage and excess noise from additional cooling hardware, not to mention the excessive heat that a system case can generate when overclocked. If you are overclocked to the point where your PCI clock would be over 39MHz, or you have to lower the CAS/RAS timings on your memory to reach your overclock, then this could be the problem--notch it down a bit and try again. There are some that may disagree with me, but I have had to do this with my XP1700. It would flub burns about 2/3 into the disc at 1820, but burn flawlessly at 1794 (158 FSB/39.5 PCI vs. 156 FSB/39 PCI). BTW, the XP1700 is a 1466MHz CPU by default. Yes, I am a bit of a speed freak. Can't wait to get my a new KT400 board with a Barton and crank it up another notch....heheh.

    Double check your Drive cables and overall system design. DVD burners typically work most reliably when they are the Master on the secondary chain, and if it has to share the cable with another drive the transfer speed needs to be the same or higher. In other words, don't put a non-DMA33 capable drive on the same channel with the burner. If anything accesses the drive during burning (like the AutoRun scan to a second CD drive) it will drop the speed of the channel. In keeping with this thought, don't have a disk in that secondary drive while burning. This sucks power from the line and can contribute to the throttle of the IDE channel. It is not wise to put a hard drive on the same cable with a burner--EVER. The burner can actually slow down the hard drives performance, not to mention the potential issues with burning.

    Oh, and make sure your drives are transfering at optimum speeds. Your BIOS should be enabling the DMA mode for the burner if it supports it. Likewise, your OS should be enabling the same transfer mode as your BIOS. Do not try to overide the BIOS PIO detection by setting it to DMA in Windows. This can cause some issues with transfers and drive control--especially if there is a second drive on that channel. If your BIOS cannot detect/enable UDMA for your burner, you will likely not be able to burn reliably at 4X or higher--in some cases even 2X in some cases. You should invest a little in an add-on PCI controller. You can nab a UDMA66 Promise controller for about $15 on ebay. I got one for the office for $18 with shipping back in March, so you could probably get one really cheap by now.

    For tutorials on some of the more popular software, go here:

    http://www.mjpaul.freeserve.co.uk/

    They will be moving soon, this should be the new address when it does:

    http://www.psplace.tk/

    Good Luck!

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    i have a usb (neo Key) mod chip, and i was worndering if it can boot ps2
    dvd-r, i saw a lot of site that say PS2 USBMOD boot instructions, and it said how to boot PS2 DVDr or ALL PS2 Games

    thx
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    Neo key won't boot dvd backups, only cd.

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    DVD+R DOES WORK for my day one PS2 with swap magic. They were also burnt at 1x and 2.4x, so it is a bit more of a time investment.
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    Verbatim used to work on mine, but now it loads hella slow, so I just use TDK cd's. Go figure ;/ Anyone ever hear of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artifact
    Verbatim used to work on mine, but now it loads hella slow, so I just use TDK cd's. Go figure ;/ Anyone ever hear of this?

    You should check with some software which dye those Verbatim's use. (MMC usually) Maybe your disks have a low quality dye (which I doubt) and were written at too high speed and the result was a too high error rate on the disk. Then a laser that is not in a perfect condition can cause this reading problem. TDK DVD+Rs are (Ricoh) has other write strategy than Verbatim. It would be great if you could test those disks with a PI/PO scanner (Kprobe for example) but if you do not have a Liteon drive then it's not possible. That would tell us some info about the dye/write quality and would be an answer why your PS2 does not like those disks. As said usually Verbatim is a very good brand, and there must not be any problem. This sounds like a dying laser for me, or it needs some adjusting.

    regards, Stephen
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  7. #127 V9 Dvd+r? 
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    Hi,

    my former ps2 was a v7 and it went completely dead, and i haven't been in the ps2 scene since...... but i recently purchased a new premodded v9 and i wanted to double check what format to use

    I have a sony dvd burner so i can burn +r or -r.....When i had the v7 i only used verbatim +r's they seemed to work much better then the -r's..... Is that still generally the way to go? Have people been having better luck with the -r's on v9's?

    thanks for any advice.

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    This is info for my Maxell DVD+r:

    Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
    Disc ID: YUDEN000-T01-00
    Book Type: DVD+R
    Part Version: 1
    Disc Size: 120mm
    Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
    Number of Layers: 1
    Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
    Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
    Track Density: 0.74 um/track

    This is good right? Esp with the yuden dye, tell me if its bad media.
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    TY dye is one of the best ones, - if not the best, hehe - so you can use it.

    regards, Stephen
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    great, need to get more of these then!
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