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Is Linux what I want? –
Newbie here, please be gentle. I'm reading these threads with huge interest - well done to the failoverflow and geo!
I was about to install Yellow Dog, back in the day when you had Other OS option (I have fat ps3) but when they blocked that I kinda lost interest - now all this!!
So, my PS3 usage is non pirated games (I don't play much, usually second hand, but I'm genuinely not interested in piracy) and mainly photo, music and films that I stream from my NAS. As far as I'm concerned, getting Spotify and Skype on my PS3 would be amazing....would Linux be the way forward? As far as i know, I'd have to run windows on top of linux as there are no skype releases for linux, but you can get spotify...
Basically, please help me out - I'm no stranger to jailbreaking (done all my iphones) but a lot of the jargon on here can be confusing. Would I be best going the linux way, or will you clever devs release a way of running skype or spotifty on PS3?
Thanks for reading
Originally Posted by tomjames
I'm not a clever dev (well, not on the scene but I am pretty good with linux... so I'll have a go at answering.
Short answer - spotify and skype will not work on the PS3.
There *is* a linux skype client (I used it to talk to my mother today) that can be used with ubuntu or debian. I'm not sure about other linux distros. Spotify IIRC you have to use with wine as it's a windows program.
The problem is that they are compiled for x86 processors but the PS3 has a Cell, and that does matter a lot. You can't run programs from one on the other without a very heavy emulation layer, usually. So programs have to be rebuilt to work on the PS3.
Skype and Spotify are closed source programs and it's unlikely that either company will release a new build for PS3 linux.
There are some options.
You *could* try to run windows in a virtual machine, but it would have to be a very heavy, full-processor-emulator and that would be very slow. Especially given the low amount of RAM in the system.
Or you could try to find open source alternatives that the community can rebuild for PS3 linux. There is something called "despotify" which you can apparently use if you are a spotify subscriber, which is a FOSS project. They block it for the free version.
Skype, I can't find any alternatives for, so you would be stuck.
Right now linux for PS3 firmwares that don't support OtherOS seems to be stuck at proof-of-concept phase as far as I can tell, though I'm sure that will change over time.
One other benefit for someone that streams media is that there are all sorts of media players for linux that can do a lot more formats and codecs than the PS3 currently can.
Anyway, my advice would be to wait a while, when it gets a bit more mature you have nothing to lose by trying it, but don't expect a skype client any time soon. IMHO, YMMV etc etc
Thanks for the reply Ratanddragon - perfectly pitched.
One thing though, you say you *can* have skype on unbunto (hi to your mother by the way ), i thought the PS3 could run ubunto? If so, whats the issue here?
I remember now the WINE linux problem with getting spotify - although if I could get spotify on my PS3, I'd pay for a sub - the fact I would then get it on iphone seals it for me. I've trying the qirocity and it's good; but not as vast. Spotify rocks, we all know that. I'll certainly look at despotify....
And yes - I'm looking forward to better media players, although PS3 plays most things, it is annoying having to covert. Also, the album art on XMB is rubbish?! If theres one obvious improvement, its make my folder.jpg's show up nice and big - not tiny any repetitive as they does now.
I'll sit and wait for a bit for now.
I had a long reply written out here and then accidentally killed my browser...
Originally Posted by tomjames
Anyway, basically it comes down to the processor. You can't run x86 programs on a Cell processor.
Ubuntu is (mostly) open source and therefore the folks at Canonical (that make Ubuntu) can recompile the software for the Cell. In fact anyone can because the source is availabel.
But Skype is not open source so the folks at Canonical don't have the code to rebuild it from and neither does anyone else. You have to rely on Skype themselves making a PS3 linux version, and that seems pretty unlikely.
That's what I like about open source, you can take it and change it and make it run in other places.
despotify, being open source, could be built for linux on the PS3.
You could also use a different video-calling program instead of skype. For instance there is "Gajim" which uses the jabber protocol and seems to be able to interface with the "Google Talk" system. Or you could get a playstation Move camera and use the video call function there to call another PS3.
Ekiga is another good one.Look it up on wikipedia,it gives a good long list of downloads for what ever flavor of linux you are using.