Linux on newer firmwares...

[butnut]

I have some questions...

Why do people keep stating that a lot of ps3 owners were upset about Sony making us choose between playing the latest games(and playing on-line) or using linux, and as a result of that choice hackers began to and succeeded in re-introducing linux to the ps3?

As far as I can tell, we still have to choose between the two, I mean sure on 3.55 we now have a linux which makes better use of the ps3 hardware that the linux on 3.15 did, but can we, today at this moment, install other OS++ AND any firmware(past, present or future) on the same machine, at the same time?

Please don't misunderstand me, I am not complaining about or even trying to imply that there is any sort of lack of progress in the scene. I am only trying to understand how the position of the ps3 owner has favorably changed since firmware 3.15 in regards to linux, therefore giving merit to the argument that hacking of the ps3 no longer needs to continue, now that the general public has the ability to install linux on firmwares up to 3.55.

Again, will someone please explain to me how we no longer have to choose between linux and the latest firmware?

[afiser]

We still do have to choose between linux and the latest firmware. Its really not that hard to comprehend. Nothing can be done past 3.55 since we can no longer sign things for anything 3.56+.

I'm failing to see the point of this post.

[magimog]

I have some questions...

Why do people keep stating that a lot of ps3 owners were upset about Sony making us choose between playing the latest games(and playing on-line) or using linux, and as a result of that choice hackers began to and succeeded in re-introducing linux to the ps3?

As far as I can tell, we still have to choose between the two, I mean sure on 3.55 we now have a linux which makes better use of the ps3 hardware that the linux on 3.15 did, but can we, today at this moment, install other OS++ AND any firmware(past, present or future) on the same machine, at the same time?

Please don't misunderstand me, I am not complaining about or even trying to imply that there is any sort of lack of progress in the scene. I am only trying to understand how the position of the ps3 owner has favorably changed since firmware 3.15 in regards to linux, therefore giving merit to the argument that hacking of the ps3 no longer needs to continue, now that the general public has the ability to install linux on firmwares up to 3.55.

Again, will someone please explain to me how we no longer have to choose between linux and the latest firmware?

No you can't install Linux and 3.56+ at the same time. No one has EVER said we didn't have to choose between the two. Obviously, if this wasn't an issue we'd ALL have 3.60 and Linux running on our machines

Hacking of the PS3 will and should continue, even if the progress doesn't equal newer CFW's. There is simply too much beef in this machine not to exploit.

[damox]

We still do have to choose between linux and the latest firmware. Its really not that hard to comprehend. Nothing can be done past 3.55 since we can no longer sign things for anything 3.56+.

I'm failing to see the point of this post.

No you can't install Linux and 3.56+ at the same time. No one has EVER said we didn't have to choose between the two. Obviously, if this wasn't an issue we'd ALL have 3.60 and Linux running on our machines

Hacking of the PS3 will and should continue, even if the progress doesn't equal newer CFW's. There is simply too much beef in this machine not to exploit.

You guys missed the tone of OPs post.

The OP knows exactly what the given situation is, he is trying to say nothing has been achieved with linux not running on updated firmwares.

Linux might as well have left on 3.15 and gaming on 3.61 - This is no different to now with linux on 3.55 and gaming on 3.61 - There is still a gulf.