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Hehe I agree. But I'm an uber geek. I grew up with windows 95 and 98 so I'm used to getting dumped into Dos and running command line to be able to do something. So learning from that aspect will actually give me some nostalgia which is an added bonus. "Garbage in, Garbage out!"
Originally Posted by MRDOCA
Plus if I really wanted a GUI all I would have to do is shrink one of my partitions down and install ubuntu on my PC. I've been using linux off and on for the past 6-8 months off and on. So I'd rather learn from bash then from a GUI on my PS3.
i dont know i am asking for a guide my self i have never done any thing to do with net-booting, and atm i am not looking as i am very sick, when better if i find how to do it i will post what i have done.
Originally Posted by MRDOCA
for the people asking about linux i moved just over a year ago now and have used it for my main os i hate longing in to windows now have to do it for a few things though.
i will say i think that linux for one who dose not know how to use a computer is easy every thing makes sens and i picked up all i needed to use it day to day in under a month, i also forced may self not to use windows if there going to use linux every once in a while then your not going to pick up much i would say. some one coming from a windows background may find it a bit tricky and counter intuitive at first that just because windows dose some thing really bad and none-standard
ubuntu is a grate distro to start with and to stay with really its the more populer for a reason and that is that it works and is easy to do thinks google will help with most you need and the ubuntu community is more then willing to help.
going to stop there and sleep may add more in the morning and neaten it up to.
asbestos for 3.15 with HDD access
asbestos for 3.15 with HDD access –
Looking for an asbestos loader for FW 3.15 with HDD access so that I can boot my Linux distribution from the HDD using kboot, vmlinuz and initrid. Don't want to set up an NFS server.
For those of you wanting to learn linux, just download a Ubunutu livecd or any other distro you want to get into as your first one (Ubuntu is one of the easiest) and find yourself a DOS to Linux command line guide and you're pretty much set. When I was first getting into linux about 15 years ago, I also picked up a Linux manual that went over a specific distrobution, but most of the information was interchangable. Stuff like rebuilding your kernel, setting up your network interfaces and services, etc is pretty much the same across the board, accept maybe where the files are stored. You really just need to get hands on and figure out all the practical stuff first, and then everything else comes next.
Well I guess when I have some free time and energy I'll start testing it out and put up a guide for everyone. Not gonna be till at least this next weekend though. I'm starting college mathematics on Monday 0.o.
Originally Posted by chesh
Not exactly. They're not all the same across the board. In the command line, there are pretty distinct differences in things like interface configuration locations in distros like Fedora/Red Hat, Ubuntu/CentOS/Debian, FreeBSD/OpenBSD, etc. You would also have to learn some package management like apt-get, yum, Makefile, etc. as well as their easier GUI frontends like Yumex. The window managers like Gnome, KDE, Xfce, etc. are just intuitively easier to get around. Ubuntu is also deviating from older standards with things like Upstart and some service management in place of the traditionally slower runlevels found in some distros that still use the rcX.d directories (mostly it just helps with boot time). There really isn't a standard set of command line utilities, but rather more like a bunch of similar sets of utilities that function similarly to each other. But yeah, there are some similarities between distros that are Debian based as there are similarities between ones that are Red Hat based, but not quite similar between a Red Hat and a Debian based OS.
Originally Posted by chesh
If you want to learn Linux, then I'm a firm believer that it's best learned on the command line, but if you like the GUI frontends, then knock yourself out. You might be more comfortable there, but I think the CLI forces you to visualize, memorize and overall, to get a better feel for Linux. If you're learning from a LiveCD like Ubuntu, then you're really just learning Ubuntu. It's a starting point, but I wouldn't call it a swiss army knife that you can use for all distros since they're all pretty different. You'll likely just stick with one distro anyways. Ubuntu just happens to have some of the best community support available due to it's rampant popularity.
Originally Posted by Arsic
You do know that the BSDs are totally different operating systems, right? BSD is derived from real, original UNIX code (IIRC) and has a completely different kernel. Also a different FOSS philosophy. I think they'd be pretty pissed off to be thrown in with Linux...
Also, as someone that uses three or four different distributions regularly - they aren't all that different. RHEL and SuSE are pretty similar and are used a lot in business, then there's Fedora which is similar but more up to date. Debian, ubuntu and a few others like 'Linux Mint' make up the other main family. But most have a lot of the same 'stuff', especially when it comes to command line tools.
Hell, most of the same tools exist on AIX, HP-UX and Solaris too!
If you want to learn linux, personally I'm a firm believer in just going for it and trying to figure it out as you go along, command-line, GUI, whatever. But I would agree with you in one sense there - you can't be afraid of the command line.
If you want to learn Linux, then I'm a firm believer that it's best learned on the command line
You also shouldn't be afraid of configuration files, or of trying stuff out, getting into a complete mess and breaking it. What's the worst that can happen?
(usually the worst that can happen is you get so stuck you have to reinstall the OS, not such a big deal these days.
right first on the hit list is:
on ubuntu btw
1,follow this and install the toolchain and psl1ght here TutorialInstall - PSL1GHT
2,follow this tut to set up a network file system here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo (this makes it so u set the right info so share and also so you can set up the client aka the ps3 to it)
3,learn how to compile a payload here Guide: How to Compile PSFreedom's Payloads with Ubuntu 10.10 - PS3 NEWS - PlayStation 3 News - PS3 Hacks (the process varies but you can use that info to merge it with the other thread method in this thread) http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/herme...payload-69498/ (Hermes AsbestOS Payload)
the reason you have to compile your own hex from this info is becoz before u compile u have to point asbestOS to the right nfs...see this is done by editing the sections mentioned in the above thread...see coz as standard asbestOS doesnt know where your distro is that your intending to run is...so using the step above to set up the nfs shared folders basically your doing what a distro disk does...so at this point i will get you to look at partition layout of ubuntu
once my device finally arrives...i will set up a much more user friendly version....like i'll compile the payload for a few devices which will basically be set up to do it how i intend too. like mebbies make a distro mod to a ubuntu install disc so all u do is install to a pc and its all set up and have the payloads sorted out for u to just pretty much plug n play...but question is ive waited 1 month n 9 days now for lightake to get my dongle to me...wonder when it will actually surface for me to do this...:@
Umm yeah, that's in there because the learning curve is similar. The conf files share some similarity despite the differences in kernel, at least it looked that way when I tried joining a Linux and BSD to a Windows domain. It was in there to contrast and compare some of the differences for them not being the same across the board. I'm sorry if you thought I was implying BSD should be thrown in with Linux, that simply isn't what I was getting at, at all.
Originally Posted by RatAndDragon
Cheers for the quick guide m8. Much appreciated!
Originally Posted by george234