will they break the 3.50 firmware

**ravihpa** · 09-24-2010,11:35 PM

Originally Posted by robo989

You've missed the point entirely on the whole situation, the PSP hack and all hacks after it apart from the pandora batter which is a hardware mod were all attacking the same part of the system, i.e causing the PSP to crash and then run some small code in the are of memory that had been encoded into first an image, then later on a save game.

The PS3 has a hypervisor, software is never granted the permissions to allow that sort of thing to even happen. If it was possible it would have been done. This jailbreak hack itself is hardly a "proper" hack. Sure the results are the same but the point is that it's using a service mode that is built into the PS3 - on purpose. It's not exploiting a small piece of code that Sony aren't aware of or can only part fix with each release of new custom firmware as with the PSP. Sony have COMPLETELY REMPOVED the code that allows the jailbreak code to run. It's not even there, there is nothing to exploit.

Sorry if I sound patronising but think it though and you'll see it's not as simple as, "oh look it's happeend before, cat and mouse, etc etc"

I'll bet anyone that no hack is released ever again for a virgin PS3 on firmware higher than 3.41. In my mind it's not even in question....Open to reasoned explantions why it would be though. And don't get me wrong I'm no coder so but my interpretation is based on the fundamentals of how all these exploits were\have been done in the past which have all been publiclly documented in laymans terms.

Very well said mate. It does seem implausible that they'll "crack/hack" the 3.50 firmware, but you can say we'll have some really good hacks/cfw for 3.41 or lower, aka on those PS3s that can be Jailbroken.

I mean it's just like Microsoft....very early versions of Xbox 360 could be jtagged, and the hacking community is keeping that loop hole alive by releasing newer patched firmwares. We can expect to see these in JB PS3s

Taken for granted the newer ones just can't be jtagged anymore.

About the updates, I am pretty sure they'll come up with something, like plugins, or modified 3.50 so we can play newer games.

Guys...it's just the beginning. The PS3 scene is still in its infancy. It's gonna get AWESOME. I just know it

**robo989** · 09-24-2010,11:37 PM

Originally Posted by darthbugger

any idea's if this is something being worked on or is 3.41 the only one, I say this because sony will force updates in the near future for games to work properly,thats a fact!!!
my ps3 is 3.50 becuase i like home and psn store but dont want to waste money on another ps3 if all future games will not work becuase of firmware issues.
What do u people think???

Why do you want to jailbreak your PS3 or a new one anyway?

**releva** · 09-24-2010,11:59 PM

3.41 has been done. Its a matter of time before someone finds an exploit with firmware 3.42 and above.

**bigd5783** · 09-25-2010,12:43 AM

Wow you made the wrong choice. I kept my current ps3 on 3.41 and will be buying a new one around or before christmas. I have watched the console modding scene too often to even try to update once a crack has been found dont update past that magic point. My Wii was sitting on a lower firmware until waninkoko released his oh so wonderful patched firmware updater. I havent played online for almost a month now due to the simple fact that I want to keep my PS3 hacked. My buddy just bought a new PS3 brought it over and we found that it had 3.40 on it. We simply updated it to 3.41b and that was that. He wont update it unless there is a custom firmware out to bypass the lockout of the psjailbreak. Modding isnt for everyone. When it first starts out it is always slow. Its like a space shuttle. It takes a ton of force to get that heavy son-of-a-bitch off the ground but once it takes flight its gone. Get a second ps3 keep it in the closet until you really want to jail break it otherwise the new ones will come out and will be unhackable and you will be crying like a baby later.

**robo989** · 09-25-2010,09:40 AM

Originally Posted by releva

3.41 has been done. Its a matter of time before someone finds an exploit with firmware 3.42 and above.

Why do you think this? The hole that the jb used isn't there anymore.

**qlum** · 09-25-2010,11:47 AM

I don't think sony patched out the exploit completely because if they did they wouldn't have made such a drastic decision for 3.50 removing all unofficial 3th party hardware really is something you wouldn't do if you patched the exploit completely. this gives them time to make a real final fix.

**darthbugger** · 09-25-2010,11:52 AM

Thanks for all the replies,I'm old and into homebrew and old arcade and so on,so have just been out and bought another slim with 3.40 on it

done the 3.41 update provided here and all is working

I can back up my game collection becuase my 7 year old is dreadfull with discs

**rocky_841** · 09-25-2010,06:08 PM

i agree with some of you that said 3.42+ firmwares will never be hacked, just like 73xx+ firmwares on 360. but the there is a good chance that hackers will be able to patch 3.42+ firmwares to add the code that allow the JB to run, i.e. CFWs. so this means that 3.50 wont be broken, but 3.41 can be modified with the extras on 3.50 to be called 3.50cfw. this is bad news and demonstration of poor patience for those that want JB and still updated past 3.41 and hoping for 3.42+ FWs to be hacked as well. chances are nothing past 3.41 will ever be hacked.

**yoshi314** · 09-25-2010,06:14 PM

Originally Posted by rocky_841

i agree with some of you that said 3.42+ firmwares will never be hacked, just like 73xx+ firmwares on 360. but the there is a good chance that hackers will be able to patch 3.42+ firmwares to add the code that allow the JB to run, i.e. CFWs. so this means that 3.50 wont be broken, but 3.41 can be modified with the extras on 3.50 to be called 3.50cfw. this is bad news and demonstration of poor patience for those that want JB and still updated past 3.41 and hoping for 3.42+ FWs to be hacked as well. chances are nothing past 3.41 will ever be hacked.

i think people will eventually figure out how to decrypt the firmware package on ps3 in controlled manner, as they did on psp. from there, it's a matter of decrypting individual files and looking for exploits there - there always are some security holes. easier or harder to find.

but i think it wil take half a year at best. at the moment we don't even have the safe method of self decrypting yet, even though it was apparently possible with some hackery through geohot's exploit.

at this point sony is way ahead of us. most firmware functions are unknown or untested, and there is no 100% safe way of unbricking the console if something goes wrong.

and we can be certain that every exploit will be patched in days time, and analysis of new firmware will take a while, once proper tools are developed and tested.

**spade_** · 09-25-2010,06:24 PM

As long as the scene doesn' slow die out like the psp scene did. Then it shouldn't be that difficult to keep up with Sony. Right now they have access to their OS and files. All they need is a way to decrypt files and they're set.

I have a feeling a year from now, people will be on their jailbroken 3.80. It needs time don't expect much in the next few months.

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