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Suggestions for Sony for future
Suggestions for Sony for future –
We all know the reasons for the absolute madness for Backup Managers by PS3 owners.
I think everybody will agree that the real reason for this madness is not the pirated games but the poor PS3 owners who want to save their expensive BD laser by backing up their game on the harddisk and playing from it.
But in the end, this ends up enabling piracy.
I think if Sony would have enabled this (i.e. backup and playing of the game to/from hard disk) and not disabled Linux or home brew, nobody would have been interested in jail breaking it.
Just an idea for Sony to incorporate in future... let the poor PS3 owners backup their games on their hard disk and while doing this, also, lock the game with unique per-box key so that way it won't be usable on any other PS3 system (I think that's already their with their NPDRM stuff)
The case where you can make multiple backups with the same game disk, that can be solved by requiring to activate the backup. Something like, after the initial backup of the game to the hard disk, the game is still locked and can only be unlocked by connecting to Sony servers using Internet.
The activation will require a unique key that will be activated only once by Sony. The key would be different for each copy of the same game.
Sony can even let users backup this activation. So that re-installation is possible, off course it would be possible only on that same PS3.
Sony can also let transfer the license from one PS3 to another PS3 and that way make sure that only a single playable copy exist.
I think with above and letting home brew and Linux, both Sony and us would be happy.
Really? You really think that? I honestly don't know if that's cute or sad....
Originally Posted by nijhawank
This is an interesting question, I was actually just asking myself while i was lurking on the site, so I decided to register. I am not a developer, nor a pirate, but a simple PS3 enthousiast with a slight fear of a nearby ending of the PS3's lifecycle.
It would be a great initiative from the scene to actually think along with Sony for a possible solution to this whole matter, that is, allowing for various sorts of homebrew to be able to run on the jailbreaked PS3, without allowing for pirated game copies to be ran on the system.
I understand and support your suggestion for an unique per-box key. It does have a few problems though. For example, this way, owners of multiple systems will not be able to play their game on both systems, if they backed their game up on one of the two devices.
Also, I wonder to what extent such a seemingly system-based solution would be safe from future attempts at hacking by people who are not so anti-piracy, with the current root key and tools out on the web. One way to prevent this is by adding an on-line verification step of some sort in the process.
Also, any person who has honestly no interest in pirating games should support this thread, since it's subject is to find a decent outcome for all of us, the fair end users, the fair home developers and last but not least, Sony.
Last edited by henkdetank; 01-17-2011 at 07:33 PM.
Reason: added final paragraph
That sounds good...but do you really think that a company that claims to own the system after the sale and even sinks low enough to remove advertised features is ever gonna change? I mean the cd root kit and now we know that they spy on what you are doing on your ps3...They don't give one s**t about the end user. I can assure you that this outlook won't change even after all of this....I mean just look at the xbox 360 and the wii..... They got hacked and did either one remove features? No...and now poor sony got hacked and they want to sue everyone....Give me a break. They could have learned from others and their action...but their answer was NO....Were gonna piss off everyone and remove features.....The PS3 is the only system that I know of that has lost features as it got older......
Oh...and I don't condone piracy....But I do get very angry when I pay for things and they get conveniently removed for no reason......
I think the responsibility lies with governments. Geohot is an American... the United States has the death penalty.
Solution? Reimplement the death penalty for piracy. No more piracy.
If not changing would mean the possible collapse of their product line, resulting in a loss of future profits, loss of their market share, and loss of their shareholder trust, then yes, I believe Sony will be willing to change.
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
I understand that you're frustrated about the removal of OtherOS, I would be too if I hadn't bought my system after it's removal. However, with me there are a lot of other fair end users who never cared or bothered for OtherOS, as well as fair retailers in new and used PS3 games. They wouldn't like to see the way they spend their time go up in thin air because this war between the scene and Sony. For the sake of the entire PS3 fanbase, it's worth looking for a solution to this matter.
I think that Sony's future is bright, the analysis makes sense and look forward to the
I must say, the lack of response to this topic worries me. It seems that there is very little motivation to work with Sony for a good solution coming from the community. Almost as if this community has no interest in having the console, and it's current audience, live for at least a few more years.
Sony could have decided to get hacked
failoverflow could have been hired by sony to open up the console and boost ps3's sales (if they would have cracked the console before, game producers simply would have never made games - but now ps3 and xbox are mainstream and quite standard)
The legal stuff they're throwing out now is just to act fiercely against piracy.
Just a show.
I don't think they need suggestions from the scene
And they won't love this crazy "official backup things" - not because it's a bad idea (it's great and in the future something like the psn store will probably replace boxed bluray), but because it appears easy to crack.
And they need to look innocent (while they're the first to profit on an hacked console actually)
Sony will be just fine. This isn't the end of the PS3, neither is it the end of Sony. Do you realize how many consoles they've sold? If we assume every person on average has bought two, that still puts the number of hacker/modders/pirates at a tiny fraction of their customer base.