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12-27-2010,08:15 AM

Originally Posted by
runo
XBOX360 IS NOT THE SAME AS PS3!!!! completely different platforms...it's like comparing apples with oranges, jeez!!! Look all i am saying is don't get your hopes up to much. Ofc it's a plus...and sure let them try...but don't try to sell it to people like it's some kind of done deal or something. Because it's not!!!

I'm not the one affirming stuff here.
You blazed in here talking crap (it is crap to me, unless you have a computer engineering degree and know what you're talking about) and trying to bury the idea just because BR empty discs are too expensive for you .. 
So you think empty DVD's weren't expensive when PS2 got hacked ?
Same shit.
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12-27-2010,08:24 AM
Completely useless for everyone but pirates. Whilst games would work on all firmwares you would lose the homebrew ability and the legitimately useful feature of playing games from the HDD.
Also, for those downloading games it is almost certain that all game dumps will need to be of the complete disc which means 25gb each minimum.
The new exploits being revealed at 27c3 on Wednesday are much more exciting. (I'm guessing it will be a lvl1 hack that allows custom firmware).
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12-27-2010,08:27 AM

Originally Posted by
CS67700
I'm not the one affirming stuff here.
You blazed in here talking crap (it is crap to me, unless you have a computer engineering degree and know what you're talking about) and trying to bury the idea just because BR empty discs are too expensive for you ..
So you think empty DVD's weren't expensive when PS2 got hacked ?
Same shit.
no if you would have read closely to what i said before, the BR empty discs are NOT my main concern. It's the fact that xbox360 knowledge and experience doesn't necessarily have to apply in the same fashion to the ps3 as well, since it's completely different hardware, except for the fact that IBM had a hand on the cpu of both systems. And you don't need to be a computer engineer to figure that out, you just need to use your common logic and sense. Something you seem to lack it seems. Anyway whatever, think whatever you want to think...but read what "C" has posted. I agree with him. kk tnx bai!
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12-27-2010,08:38 AM

Originally Posted by
inutero
Completely useless for everyone but pirates. Whilst games would work on all firmwares you would lose the homebrew ability and the legitimately useful feature of playing games from the HDD.
True. But i don't expect Sony to let the whole "homebrew" stuff going on for a long time. Custom FW or not.

Originally Posted by
inutero
Also, for those downloading games it is almost certain that all game dumps will need to be of the complete disc which means 25gb each minimum.
Its not a big deal. A lot of peoples have at least 25-30Mb/s internet connections our days. It takes 1-2 full days to get 25Gb.
What about fiber optic ? Takes a few hours.

Originally Posted by
inutero
The new exploits being revealed at 27c3 on Wednesday are much more exciting. (I'm guessing it will be a lvl1 hack that allows custom firmware).
True. If you wanna play Pong on your $400 PS3.
Then you would rather go out and buy an old system that allows you to play these, they're usually under $100.
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12-27-2010,08:43 AM

Originally Posted by
runo
no if you would have read closely to what i said before, the BR empty discs are NOT my main concern. It's the fact that xbox360 knowledge and experience doesn't necessarily have to apply in the same fashion to the ps3 as well, since it's completely different hardware, except for the fact that IBM had a hand on the cpu of both systems. And you don't need to be a computer engineer to figure that out, you just need to use your common logic and sense. Something you seem to lack it seems. Anyway whatever, think whatever you want to think...but read what "C" has posted. I agree with him. kk tnx bai!
No dude, all this is very complicated.
I'm still laughing at the clowns that keept saying 3.50 would never be cracked.
Obviously those guys didn't know what they were talking about (but they were convinced they did, thats the funny part).
So again, unless you're in that field and detain the knowledge, DON'T TALK.
You won't look like an ass later, its for your own good.
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12-27-2010,09:18 AM

Originally Posted by
runo
no if you would have read closely to what i said before, the BR empty discs are NOT my main concern. It's the fact that xbox360 knowledge and experience doesn't necessarily have to apply in the same fashion to the ps3 as well, since it's completely different hardware, except for the fact that IBM had a hand on the cpu of both systems. And you don't need to be a computer engineer to figure that out, you just need to use your common logic and sense. Something you seem to lack it seems. Anyway whatever, think whatever you want to think...but read what "C" has posted. I agree with him. kk tnx bai!
The PS3 hardware other than the drive is irrelevant. The hack involves making the Blu Ray drive think that a backup is an original disc, this is done completely in firmware and is designed so the data the drive would send to the rest of the hardware is identical to if it was a real copy. This is exactly the same approach the 360 drive hack has so having as much knowledge about it c4eva has will obviously be a massive help. If c4eva says it is possible then it almost certainly is.
True. If you wanna play Pong on your $400 PS3.
Then you would rather go out and buy an old system that allows you to play these, they're usually under $100.
Being able to run unsigned code has far more significance than just Pong. Even pirates must concede that the only way they can pirate PSN games and DLC will be by running unsigned code.
And if there is a lvl1 hack it will mean the PS3 will be in the same state as a jtag'd 360, which is obviously far more useful than one with a flashed drive.
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12-27-2010,09:33 AM

Originally Posted by
runo
(thats why big hollywood companies choose blu-ray over hdvd in the first place)
uh ok.
I'm sure those half-billion dollar checks Sony was handing out had nothing to do with anything, right?
Foolish kids with no memory...
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12-27-2010,09:34 AM

Originally Posted by
CS67700
True. But i don't expect Sony to let the whole "homebrew" stuff going on for a long time. Custom FW or not.
Its not a big deal. A lot of peoples have at least 25-30Mb/s internet connections our days. It takes 1-2 full days to get 25Gb.
What about fiber optic ? Takes a few hours.
True. If you wanna play Pong on your $400 PS3.
Then you would rather go out and buy an old system that allows you to play these, they're usually under $100.

Internet connection is not going to be the issue for those downloading pirated games. It will be the bandwidth limits the ISP places on it's customers. Most ISP's get irritated if you pull over 300GB's in a 30 day calendar cycle. Those that aren't saying anything now will be chiming in soon.
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12-27-2010,09:46 AM

Originally Posted by
xiaNaix
Mathieulh claims he's known about it for ages. He also, coincidentally, invented the internet, the wheel, and discovered America.
Nothing against Math (legend). Next quote irrelevant to above lol.

Originally Posted by
sabin1981
OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! It didn't even take TEN posts before some twat bitched about something.
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12-27-2010,09:54 AM
Well, if it would be possible to flash bluray drives, then it would be a much bigger deal as playing pirated ps3 games - in theory you could flash now every bluray drive (if the way to flash the ps3 drive isn based on a specific flaw in the firmware for this drive and only this drive...)
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