Brand New PS3, 3.5 firmware and NOT DOWNGRADEABLE?!?

**GraFfiX** · 12-15-2010,12:23 PM

Just got a brand new ps3 160gb yesterday. It will NOT downgrade. The only flash I can get it to accept from service mode is the original 3.5 flash, it rejects every other firmware, whether it be debug or standard. I think we should get this thread going to report the issue and see if we can find a solution.

**chesh** · 12-15-2010,12:26 PM

There's a thread about this. You have to downgrade to 3.15 first. http://psx-scene.com/forums/f118/dow...3-50-fw-72900/ (Downgrade from preinstaled 3.50 fw)

**GraFfiX** · 12-15-2010,12:33 PM

Originally Posted by chesh

There's a thread about this. You have to downgrade to 3.15 first. http://psx-scene.com/forums/f118/dow...3-50-fw-72900/ (Downgrade from preinstaled 3.50 fw)

I do appreciate this, if you look I already posted in that thread. That method did not work for me. I was wondering, are there different versions of the debug firmware for us/eu consoles? When I try to flash the 3.15 debug firmware /i get the perpetual blinking green light.

Log of modified 3.41 flash, its the same for all other firmware below 3.5

Code:

manufacturing updating start
PackageName = /dev_usb000/PS3UPDAT.PUP
settle polling interval success
vflash is enabled...
creating system regions...
create storage region: (region id = 1)
create storage region: (region id = 2)
format partition: (region_id = 2, CELL_FS_UTILITY:HDD0, CELL_FS_UFS)
create storage region: (region id = 3)
format partition: (region_id = 3, CELL_FS_UTILITY:HDD1, CELL_FS_FAT)
creating system regions done.
boot from nor flash...
creating nor flash regions...
create storage region: (region id = 2)
create storage region: (region id = 3)
creating flash regions...
create storage region: (region id = 1)
create storage region: (region id = 2)
format partition: (region_id = 2, CELL_FS_IOS:BUILTIN_FLSH1, CELL_FS_FAT)
create storage region: (region id = 3)
format partition: (region_id = 3, CELL_FS_IOS:BUILTIN_FLSH2, CELL_FS_FAT)
create storage region: (region id = 4)
format partition: (region_id = 4, CELL_FS_IOS:BUILTIN_FLSH3, CELL_FS_FAT)
create storage region: (region id = 5)
create storage region: (region id = 6)
Initializing
taking a while...
start Updating Proccess
Initialize elapsed time = 55 msec
check UPL
Check UPL elapsed time = 52 msec
check Package Size
get package size elapsed time = 20 msec
start Updating Package
Update packages num = 30
Update packages total size = 162260138
Update Package Revoke list
read package revoke list package (576 bytes) elapsed = 2 msec
update package revoke list elapsed = 186 msec
Update Package Revoke list done(0x8002f000)
Update Core OS Package
read core os package (5182047 bytes) elapsed = 301 msec
update core os package elapsed = 278 msec
Update Core OS Package done(0x8002f14b)
update package elapsed time = 767 msec
Updating or Verifying failure 0x8002f14b
UpMng.UpdatePackage() failure
manufacturing updating FAILURE(0x8002f14b)
Total Elapsed time = 13782 msec

Here is a log from a successful 3.5 update in service mode on the same console.

Code:

manufacturing updating start
PackageName = /dev_usb000/PS3UPDAT.PUP
settle polling interval success
vflash is enabled...
creating system regions...
create storage region: (region id = 1)
create storage region: (region id = 2)
format partition: (region_id = 2, CELL_FS_UTILITY:HDD0, CELL_FS_UFS)
create storage region: (region id = 3)
format partition: (region_id = 3, CELL_FS_UTILITY:HDD1, CELL_FS_FAT)
creating system regions done.
boot from nor flash...
creating nor flash regions...
create storage region: (region id = 2)
create storage region: (region id = 3)
creating flash regions...
create storage region: (region id = 1)
create storage region: (region id = 2)
format partition: (region_id = 2, CELL_FS_IOS:BUILTIN_FLSH1, CELL_FS_FAT)
create storage region: (region id = 3)
format partition: (region_id = 3, CELL_FS_IOS:BUILTIN_FLSH2, CELL_FS_FAT)
create storage region: (region id = 4)
format partition: (region_id = 4, CELL_FS_IOS:BUILTIN_FLSH3, CELL_FS_FAT)
create storage region: (region id = 5)
create storage region: (region id = 6)
Initializing
taking a while...
start Updating Proccess
Initialize elapsed time = 75 msec
check UPL
Check UPL elapsed time = 57 msec
check Package Size
get package size elapsed time = 26 msec
start Updating Package
Update packages num = 30
Update packages total size = 164765823
Update Package Revoke list
read package revoke list package (576 bytes) elapsed = 6 msec
update package revoke list elapsed = 183 msec
Update Package Revoke list done(0x8002f000)
Update Core OS Package
read core os package (5203271 bytes) elapsed = 308 msec
update core os package elapsed = 37382 msec
Update Core OS Package done(0x8002f000)
Update VSH Package
sys_memory_container_create() success(id = 0xc0effffe)
Update VSH's package : 1/22
read vsh package (1792 bytes) elapsed = 8 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 47 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 765 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 13 msec
Update VSH's package : 2/22
read vsh package (5616383 bytes) elapsed = 333 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 368 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 397 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 336 msec
Update VSH's package : 3/22
read vsh package (3357772 bytes) elapsed = 205 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 251 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 856 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 286 msec
Update VSH's package : 4/22
read vsh package (5240117 bytes) elapsed = 320 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 336 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 640 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 351 msec
Update VSH's package : 5/22
read vsh package (25203 bytes) elapsed = 9 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 48 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 103 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 48 msec
Update VSH's package : 6/22
read vsh package (10337609 bytes) elapsed = 615 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 317 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 2810 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 444 msec
Update VSH's package : 7/22
read vsh package (9141741 bytes) elapsed = 548 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 277 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 2833 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 433 msec
Update VSH's package : 8/22
read vsh package (6606119 bytes) elapsed = 399 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 375 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 1273 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 368 msec
Update VSH's package : 9/22
read vsh package (8617608 bytes) elapsed = 513 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 246 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 1321 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 354 msec
Update VSH's package : 10/22
read vsh package (10383044 bytes) elapsed = 618 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 289 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 1421 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 414 msec
Update VSH's package : 11/22
read vsh package (9379142 bytes) elapsed = 556 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 273 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 2402 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 422 msec
Update VSH's package : 12/22
read vsh package (10390924 bytes) elapsed = 606 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 290 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 1483 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 447 msec
Update VSH's package : 13/22
read vsh package (9018304 bytes) elapsed = 529 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 250 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 754 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 408 msec
Update VSH's package : 14/22
read vsh package (8412161 bytes) elapsed = 507 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 343 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 1855 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 419 msec
Update VSH's package : 15/22
read vsh package (8093629 bytes) elapsed = 487 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 379 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 1888 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 419 msec
Update VSH's package : 16/22
read vsh package (9782252 bytes) elapsed = 574 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 442 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 3709 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 465 msec
Update VSH's package : 17/22
read vsh package (8263651 bytes) elapsed = 493 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 384 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 5955 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 650 msec
Update VSH's package : 18/22
read vsh package (7215613 bytes) elapsed = 424 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 277 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 3491 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 522 msec
Update VSH's package : 19/22
read vsh package (7146694 bytes) elapsed = 434 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 285 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 515 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 357 msec
Update VSH's package : 20/22
read vsh package (9506010 bytes) elapsed = 560 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 268 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 430 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 437 msec
Update VSH's package : 21/22
read vsh package (7724718 bytes) elapsed = 464 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 347 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 1270 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 481 msec
Update VSH's package : 22/22
read vsh package (2654035 bytes) elapsed = 168 msec
decrypt and verify vsh package elapsed = 126 msec
write vsh package elapsed = 3122 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare vsh package elapsed = 272 msec
Update VSH Package done(0x8002f000)
Bul-ray Disc Player Revoke
read bdp revoke package (1905 bytes) elapsed = 11 msec
decrypt and verify bdp revoke package elapsed = 51 msec
write bdp revoke package elapsed = 66 msec
flush_cache(0x100000000000001)
flush_cache() SUCCESS
compare bdprevoke package elapsed = 55 msec
Bul-ray Disc Player Revoke done(0x8002f000)
Update Program Revoke list
read program revoke list package (736 bytes) elapsed = 8 msec
update program revoke list elapsed = 2082 msec
Update Program Revoke list done(0x8002f000)
Update BD firmware
read BD firmware package (1966992 bytes) elapsed = 112 msec
update BD firmware elapsed = 289 msec
read BD firmware package (951040 bytes) elapsed = 52 msec
update BD firmware elapsed = 246 msec
read BD firmware package (951040 bytes) elapsed = 52 msec
update BD firmware elapsed = 246 msec
read BD firmware package (951040 bytes) elapsed = 53 msec
update BD firmware elapsed = 248 msec
read BD firmware package (1639296 bytes) elapsed = 85 msec
update BD firmware elapsed = 265 msec
read BD firmware package (787200 bytes) elapsed = 45 msec
update BD firmware elapsed = 254 msec
read BD firmware package (1639296 bytes) elapsed = 85 msec
update BD firmware elapsed = 260 msec
Update BD firmware done(0x8002f000)
Update Multi-Card controller firmware
read MCC package (28636 bytes) elapsed = 11 msec
update MCC elapsed = 46 msec
Update Multi-Card controller firmware done(0x8002f000)
Update BlueTooth firmware
read BT package (644322 bytes) elapsed = 38 msec
update BT elapsed = 79 msec
Update BlueTooth firmware done(0x8002f000)
Update System controller firmware
read SC patch package (4864 bytes) elapsed = 10 msec
read SC patch package (4864 bytes) elapsed = 9 msec
read SC patch package (4864 bytes) elapsed = 9 msec
read SC patch package (4864 bytes) elapsed = 9 msec
read SC patch package (4864 bytes) elapsed = 9 msec
read SC patch package (4864 bytes) elapsed = 9 msec
read SC patch package (4864 bytes) elapsed = 9 msec
read SC patch package (4864 bytes) elapsed = 10 msec
Update System controller firmware done(0x8002f000)
update package elapsed time = 107704 msec
post processiong...
post processiong done
cleanup update status (ret = 0)
os version = 03.5000
build_version = 46135,20100913
region of core os package = 0x40000000
build_target = CEX-ww
build target id = 0x83
manufacturing updating SUCCESS(0x8002f000)
set product mode (ret = 0)
Total Elapsed time = 123533 msec

sucks...

**chesh** · 12-15-2010,12:44 PM

I believe all firmwares have a US and a EU version. That might be what's wrong with yours. Unfortunately, I haven't been presented with this situation yet, so hopefully someone else has an answer for you

**KoOlKiDsKluB** · 12-15-2010,05:23 PM

You can't flash debug firmwares... at least not any above FW 2.40 and it would be pointless to do it because you can't use any of the debug options.. Why do noobs always think that downgrading to a debug firmware will solve their problem?

**Wutangrza** · 12-15-2010,05:39 PM

Originally Posted by KoOlKiDsKluB

You can't flash debug firmwares... at least not any above FW 2.40 and it would be pointless to do it because you can't use any of the debug options.. Why do noobs always think that downgrading to a debug firmware will solve their problem?

Presumably because it's listed as a possible solution for downgrading the new units coming out with preinstalled 3.50 firmwares which seemingly can't be downgraded normally, which, you would have seen had you read the 2nd link in this thread http://psx-scene.com/forums/f118/dow...3-50-fw-72900/ (Downgrade from preinstaled 3.50 fw)

But you were too busy calling people noobs

**GraFfiX** · 12-15-2010,05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Wutangrza

Presumably because it's listed as a possible solution for downgrading the new units coming out with preinstalled 3.50 firmwares which seemingly can't be downgraded normally, which, you would have seen had you read the 2nd link in this thread http://psx-scene.com/forums/f118/dow...3-50-fw-72900/ (Downgrade from preinstaled 3.50 fw)

But you were too busy calling people noobs

thank you.

**KoOlKiDsKluB** · 12-15-2010,06:59 PM

I still don't think that that would make it work, Mathieulh himself said that downgrading to debug FW is pointless..

EDIT: And I wasn't talking about JUST this problem, I was talking about how noobs think that downgrading to debug FW will fix ALOT of stuff, such as the RSOD PS3's, bricked update looped PS3's and such.

**volturnus** · 12-15-2010,07:02 PM

Originally Posted by KoOlKiDsKluB

I still don't think that that would make it work, Mathieulh himself said that downgrading to debug FW is pointless..

Mathieulh says more things that are total bullshit... Hardly a reliable source.

**MRDOCA** · 12-15-2010,07:13 PM

no point using debug. y would you want to? anyway. use the modded 3.41 to downgrade the slims.

you must be doing something wrong all consoles will downgrade except 3.55

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