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09-16-2009, 03:59 AM
E P

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Originally Posted by dlanor

----- re: TV response delay at video mode changes
Even so, please consider my advice about using the config to enforce the same vmode in the GUI that you want for playback.

Alright, I'll give it a shot then.:) I just know 480p works pretty much perfect. I can hear the whole MP3 play right from the beginning after changing the setting in the SMS video options. Maybe saving the video option setting at 720p and then restarting SMS will resolve the issue. It's worth a shot.

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Originally Posted by dlanor

My own TV shows a small popup whenever a vmode is changed (like from 480p to 720p or whatever). But when I start playback of a movie from the SMS browser there is no such popup.

I wish I had the same deal here. In my case, I have to press the info button to get the mode and the popup goes away after a few seconds.

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Originally Posted by dlanor

The signal remains the same 720p mode during movie playback as I had active in the SMS browser GUI, without any transition effects of any kind. If you start a playback in this way, I don't see how your TV can add any delays to that, since it shouldn't be able to 'tell' that anything happened at all.

Yes, this is what has confused me the most. After changing the video mode in settings, it should remain in that display mode. The television for some reason comes to it's own conclusions when in anything but 480p. I know this Samsung television is considered very good as it was listed in the top 3 26 inch sets for PS3 gaming.

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Originally Posted by dlanor

Then there is little point in it, and we should avoid using any IRX drivers that don't fill a good purpose, considering what a limited resource the IOP RAM is.

I completely agree.

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Originally Posted by dlanor

I hope you mentioned this to Jimmi, as both he and we want the new MC drivers to be as fully compatible to Sony's as it is possible to make them (except for pure limitations, like that renaming issue).

Not yet. I took a couple of notes after seeing that "getstat" returned different values but the mode was the same as usual, mode = 0x0000. I use the return value to get card type much like how I used it to determine usb mass driver. I don't know exactly how important it is in our case but it may be something to keep in mind.

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PS1 cards present no card existing Sony drivers -4 -11 new drivers -2 -6

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Originally Posted by dlanor

I'm not sure how the switching works with that card, but for my 8-page X-Play card it had to be done by use of the gamepad on a real PS1, where the gamepad port and the MC port are apparently identical, so the MC can 'see' all gamepad transactions. On a PS2 this is not the case, so the MC just stays locked on the current page forever. So if you still have a real PS1 around, you may be able to flip the pages using that console, and then move the MC to the PS2. That works for my X-Play...

Mine starts at A1 and you can cycle through each page using one of two buttons on top of the card. Button 1 selects a row A1, B1, or C1 where as button 2 selects from pages on the row such as A1 -> A8. That's 3 rows of 8 pages for 24 selectable cards. There's also an LCD screen on the card so you can see which areas are occupied with data and which one is selected. It was a pretty good unofficial Memory card back in 1998.

I just checked the card again and it seems to be working better than I thought. It takes forever to switch cards, but it looks to be working. Maybe this too warrants a further investigation.:) Granted it's been a while since I played a PSX game on the PS2. I just vaguely remember not being able to use areas beyond A1 with the PS2 but it's been a long time since I last experimented with it.

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Originally Posted by lee4

probably mc:2 meant for multi-tap or Virtual card?

No, it was an error of mine. Actually it's been there long before I ever started making changes to the ps2ftpd driver. I think the driver use to loop 16 times.

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Originally Posted by lee4

default mcman.irx does only support 2 slots.
Multi tap games come with mtapman.irx

Ah, I figured as much. However, maybe it depends on the console version and the driver combination as zin0099 sort of alludes to.

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I saved my configuration at 720p and reloaded SMS. It's still missing the first 1 to 2 seconds of the MP3 on playback. Even exiting from an mp3 with triangle to return to the GUI takes just over an entire second. Yes, and I even used a stopwatch this time.:) I first pressed the circle button and hit the stopwatch to start at the same time. I then stopped it as soon as the screen finally appeared playing back an MP3. Missing a whole second or more is really inexcusable.

Sorry, I think this is truly a lost cause.:( I might as well stick to 480p at least its instant playback with it. Oh and I have the reflex of a cat so the stopwatch can't be off by too much. The missing time does vary but it's usually slightly more than whole second. One can easily sense this just by listening to the same MP3 over and over again at different intervals.
09-16-2009, 04:37 AM
Berion

Finally, "hyperspeed-pad" it's fixed. Why rename option is not availble if You select a file but only if file is unselected?

Thanks for new version.
09-18-2009, 12:16 PM
dlanor

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Originally Posted by JoeTorres

@ dlanor:

Yesterday testing some stuff I realize that I can launch ELF files from a normal game (not patched one) I executed the ELF file that has the number of the game (code) the one that is in the SYSTEM.CNF (SLUS_XXX.XX) and uLE launched the game. It is possible to launch games without patching them with ESR like I described above?

That is one way of doing it, and as long as the disc is readable to uLE it should work.
But normally on an unmodded console only original discs will be readable this way.

If you want to use this method with an ESR-patched backup, then you will need to run ESR first, in such a way that it relaunches uLE instead of booting the disc, and then you can browse the disc in FileBrowser to find and launch the elf file.

But if you instead just use the uLE command "MISC/PS2Disc", then that command will check the disc, and launch it accordingly. If the disc is an original it will be launched directly, and if it is an ESR-patched disc then uLE will invoke the ESR elf to launch that disc. The effect of doing this will be the same as if you had manually located the elf in FileBrowser and launched it that way, except more convenient.

I always define a launch button in the uLE main menu for MISC/PS2Disc, and use this whenever I'm in the uLE menu and decide I want to launch a disc. One nice aspect of this method is that unlike the direct elf launch, this PS2Disc method also works for PS1 discs (reboots into PS1 mode) and DVD-Video movie discs (launching the PS2 DVD Player).

Best regards: dlanor
09-18-2009, 12:24 PM
dlanor

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Originally Posted by TnA

I have no way to make a picture, but it shows up as "Memory Card PS2/2-B" which means I have it in Slot 2 of the PS2 and Slot B of my Multi-Tap. :D

Edit: Found a funny video, where someone is connecting and disconnecting the multi-tap, while MCs are shown in the OSD.

That certainly makes it appear as if the Multi-Tap is supported by some modules internal to the PS2, unless this was an enhanced browser upgrade of course...

But in any case it is highly unlikely that we will implement such support without any means of direct testing, which means when either 'E P' or I get hold of a Multi-Tap unit. And this is hardly a top priority among things I'd like to buy... :lol:

Best regards: dlanor
09-18-2009, 12:36 PM
dlanor

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Originally Posted by zin0099

i have a multi-tap and if you have 5 psone/ps2 mc cards pluged in all will show up in the ps2 browser even if the hdd that's from sony will show up

But this means that you are not using the browser built into the console, as that browser is unable to display any HDD. For that you need a browser upgrade on MC, which is thus what you are using. You need to start the console without any MC connected in order to see the unenhanced Browser from the bios rom that most of us use.

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and yes the pocket station does show up on the ps2 as a pocket station

Yes it does, and this is true even for the standard Browser from bios rom.
But while it is recognized as a type of its own, with a special icon, you can only access it in exactly the same way as any other PS1 MC. Pocketstation programs have exactly the same file format as normal PS1 gamesaves, so you can copy them using exactly the same methods, both in the Sony browser and in the uLE FileBrowser.

Best regards: dlanor
09-18-2009, 01:00 PM
dlanor

@E P:
Sorry about the SMS/TV misbehaviour. At this point I have no clue what could be causing it.

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Originally Posted by Berion

Finally, "hyperspeed-pad" it's fixed.

Yep. It has been with us quite a while now, but should finally be fixed.

You can still provoke it to come back, by unplugging your gamepad and then hotplugging it again. But anyone who does that has himself to blame for it. (And it's easily cured by pressing the 'ANALOG' mode button.)

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Why rename option is not availble if You select a file but only if file is unselected?

That depends on what you mean by 'select'.

The uLE FileBrowser has two different ways of selecting files/folders. The simplest one is simply to move the highlight cursor to an object, which is then considered as the single selected object for operations given (though copy/paste also implies subcontent if the object is a folder). So that is the normal selection method for single object operations, such as "Rename".

The other method is to move the highlight to one object at a time, and press the 'Mark' button, so as to leave a dot on the object's icon (or place an asterisk next to the name in non-icon mode), which then adds each of the marked objects to a group selection. Even if only one object has been added at first, it is already considered to be a group, and treated as such by FileBrowser commands. This selection method is most commonly used for commands such as "Copy", "Cut", or "Delete", or "Get Size" where it is natural to act on a a group of objects.

But as presently implemented the "Rename" command is not applicable to a group, even if that group only has one member. So for using "Rename" you will need to use only the highlight selection method, without also 'marking' the object.

Best regards: dlanor
09-18-2009, 01:21 PM
zin0099

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Originally Posted by dlanor

But this means that you are not using the browser built into the console, as that browser is unable to display any HDD. For that you need a browser upgrade on MC, which is thus what you are using. You need to start the console without any MC connected in order to see the unenhanced Browser from the bios rom that most of us use.

Yes it does, and this is true even for the standard Browser from bios rom.
But while it is recognized as a type of its own, with a special icon, you can only access it in exactly the same way as any other PS1 MC. Pocketstation programs have exactly the same file format as normal PS1 gamesaves, so you can copy them using exactly the same methods, both in the Sony browser and in the uLE FileBrowser.

Best regards: dlanor

i would turn your ps2 on without the mc's like i did cuss the hdd still showed it's self! plus all the mc's showed up too after i plugged them in (while the system was on)

so it must be a bios thing
09-18-2009, 02:26 PM
dlanor

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Originally Posted by zin0099

i would turn your ps2 on without the mc's like i did cuss the hdd still showed it's self! plus all the mc's showed up too after i plugged them in (while the system was on)

so it must be a bios thing

Weird!To my knowledge it is not possible for any PS2 rom bios to display the HDD without the OSD enhancement. When I used ATAD patching earlier to make my own non-Sony HDD accepted as a Sony HDD, this never caused the HDD to be displayed in the browser, even though it was accepted for installation of Sony's PS2 Linux.

The confusing thing is that you claim that HDD was displayed even when having reset the console without any MC connected, and having entered the browser still without any MC connected. This raises the issue of exactly how the Browser enhancement for HDD is installed.

I don't understand how it can possibly be launched, when the media it should launch from is not present...? (The removed MC)
And this means that my information on that subject must be erroneous.

Just for the record:
Are you aware of having installed a 'Browser enhancement' at any time, to gain access to your HDD in Sony's Browser ? Or did you buy your console with HDD already installed and Sony's Browser already working as it does for you now ?

At all coders:
I seem to have been misinformed on this subject as I had believed some information stating that the OSDSYS upgrade is only installable on MC, and that the bios can only boot it from there. But looking closer into some bios listings, I find files with such names as "ATAD", "HDDLOAD", and even "HDDOSD" in a few models, and these files seem to restate the case entirely.

Apparently some models are able to boot the enhancements from HDD, once installed there in some fashion I'm still unclear on. And this means that it would theoretically be possible to make an FMCB version for such use as well, thus booting a softmod directly from HDD.

I'm not really recommending that we go this way with FMCB, since such usage would be entirely specific for the models having those files in rom (not v12 or later and also not v0 and maybe not v1-v3). But it is an interesting possibility, as such booting has long been claimed impossible without modchip.

Best regards: dlanor
09-18-2009, 05:53 PM
zin0099

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Originally Posted by dlanor

Weird!To my knowledge it is not possible for any PS2 rom bios to display the HDD without the OSD enhancement. When I used ATAD patching earlier to make my own non-Sony HDD accepted as a Sony HDD, this never caused the HDD to be displayed in the browser, even though it was accepted for installation of Sony's PS2 Linux.

The confusing thing is that you claim that HDD was displayed even when having reset the console without any MC connected, and having entered the browser still without any MC connected. This raises the issue of exactly how the Browser enhancement for HDD is installed.

I don't understand how it can possibly be launched, when the media it should launch from is not present...? (The removed MC)
And this means that my information on that subject must be erroneous.

Just for the record:
Are you aware of having installed a 'Browser enhancement' at any time, to gain access to your HDD in Sony's Browser ? Or did you buy your console with HDD already installed and Sony's Browser already working as it does for you now ?

At all coders:
I seem to have been misinformed on this subject as I had believed some information stating that the OSDSYS upgrade is only installable on MC, and that the bios can only boot it from there. But looking closer into some bios listings, I find files with such names as "ATAD", "HDDLOAD", and even "HDDOSD" in a few models, and these files seem to restate the case entirely.

Apparently some models are able to boot the enhancements from HDD, once installed there in some fashion I'm still unclear on. And this means that it would theoretically be possible to make an FMCB version for such use as well, thus booting a softmod directly from HDD.

I'm not really recommending that we go this way with FMCB, since such usage would be entirely specific for the models having those files in rom (not v12 or later and also not v0 and maybe not v1-v3). But it is an interesting possibility, as such booting has long been claimed impossible without modchip.

Best regards: dlanor

my hdd is the 40gb by sony (final fantasy xi online)
maybe it has to do with what hdd is plugged in?

no system and hdd were seperate when bought and it came with a disc to format the ps2 hdd

and i did format the hdd with the cd but the option of the dvd upgrade option never worked cuss of me having a scph-50001 model
09-18-2009, 06:18 PM
dlanor

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Originally Posted by zin0099

my hdd is the 40gb by sony (final fantasy xi online)
maybe it has to do with what hdd is plugged in?

No Sony PS2 software will accept using a non-Sony HDD at all on an unmodded console.
But many modchips have the 'ATAD-patching' feature, so that any HDD is identified as a Sony HDD.
I have tried this myself in some experiments I made with PS2 Linux earlier (no longer on my HDD).
But even then such an HDD doesn't show in the Sony browser, unless an upgrade disc has been used.

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no system and hdd were seperate when bought and it came with a disc to format the ps2 hdd

That disc must also have done some other things to prepare your console for HDD use, as I think the HDD Browser upgrade is mandatory for the FFXI package.

No news in that. But the shocker to me is HOW that upgrade is installed, since the rom is able to launch it without having any MC inserted. This means that it must be launching it from HDD instead, which was reputed to be impossible.

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and i did format the hdd with the cd but the option of the dvd upgrade option never worked cuss of me having a scph-50001 model

I assume this would be because the DVD Player 'upgrade' might actually be worse than the one you have in rom...

But I was not referring to the DVD-Player as such, but to the Browser upgrade that you clearly have, since PS2 consoles are unable to show an HDD in the normal browser, even if ATAD patching makes the console accept it as a Sony original. This is supposedly only possible when an OSD upgrade for HDD use has been installed.

Having studied the contents of the rom filesystems of some bios now, I am doubtful even about that old assumption, since a few models (the 300xx-390xx series) have a file named "HDDOSD" which could mean that they're able to launch that browser from rom even. But as far as I can tell the 500xx models do not contain that file, though they do have "ATAD" and "HDDLOAD". So those models should have to load the modified browser code from somewhere else, such as the HDD.

I'm a bit unsure of your model though, as the 500xx product code spans models v9-v11...
Please use the uLE command "MISC/Debug Info" and report its ROMVER string in full.

Best regards: dlanor

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