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    i have hddformat.elf with 48-bit .dmsformat
    i have made 3 partions each +/- 20 gb ( cannot make it lager )
    no i have made my 4th partion its 896mb want to make it lager but hddformat tells me that i have only 46 mb left . while i just deletted 2 games of 4gb.
    in hdloader it says i have 8 gb left .
    please can somebody help me out with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lee99
    i have hddformat.elf with 48-bit .dmsformat
    i have made 3 partions each +/- 20 gb ( cannot make it lager )
    no i have made my 4th partion its 896mb want to make it lager but hddformat tells me that i have only 46 mb left . while i just deletted 2 games of 4gb.
    in hdloader it says i have 8 gb left .
    please can somebody help me out with this.
    It seems to me that you've managed to confuse the formatter badly (not very hard, considering its low IQ )

    I'm not sure how many games you have installed, but perhaps you'd better start over, with a clean slate, and get rid of the space waste in partitions while you're at it.

    As per my info, you shouldn't use partitions larger than 4GB anyway, due to some APA filesystem limitation, so those 20GB chunks you made probably just waste 16GB each. With three of them that's 48GB lost to no purpose, which I'd certainly want to regain...

    I made a similar mistake myself, on my new 300GB hdd, but I only lost 4GB that way. With 85 games installed I didn't feel like starting over, yet again... Since I still have room for some more, I decided to just accept it for now, but that's a personal judgement call.

    You'll have to make your own choice of course, but since the formatter won't see the free space you have, I think you may have to start over

    You could try using the formatter to shrink the overly large partitions instead, hoping that the HDL installer will see the freed space, but you have to be prepared for the worst then. I know others have used that function safely, but the only time I tried it (on my old 200GB hdd), the result was total loss of all data. So I was forced to start over from scratch...

    It's a tough choice, I know, and you have to make it yourself...

    I can only wish you luck in whatever you try.
    Best regards: dlanor
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    I am using a 160gb hdd.

    Ok i will count all my Games sizes and my movies sizes up and then look how many i lost.

    so you tell me your partions are 4gb each?
    but my the partions are really +/- 20gb because they are full with movies.
    i did this with expand option in hddformat by expand with 896mb each time.

    first i made a partion sized it 896mb.(hddformat says the partion size is 894mb so i lost 2 mb)

    then i expand it the: 896mb expand to (+896)= 1765mb expand to
    (+896mb)= 2661
    and so on until i reach about near 20000mb.
    after reaching across the 20gb i can not expand it no more.
    that is why i made a second partion of 20gb
    you will loss some mb's. each time you expand.

    i found two hddfrt.elf's on the net version 1.0 and 1.1
    i have 1.0 48-bit. Is 1.1 also 48-bit? if not could some body patch it.
    maybe it will help us out with this upgrade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lee99
    I am using a 160gb hdd.

    Ok i will count all my Games sizes and my movies sizes up and then look how many i lost.

    so you tell me your partions are 4gb each?
    Yes, but I think I understand why now.

    but my the partions are really +/- 20gb because they are full with movies.
    i did this with expand option in hddformat by expand with 896mb each time.

    first i made a partion sized it 896mb.(hddformat says the partion size is 894mb so i lost 2 mb)

    then i expand it the: 896mb expand to (+896)= 1765mb expand to
    (+896mb)= 2661
    and so on until i reach about near 20000mb.
    This is very interesting, and I think I see what's going on here.

    Probably some size arguments for creating and extending a partition are declared as 32 bit unsigned integers, placing an absolute size limit for each such operation at 4G-1 (rounded up to 4G of course). But some software may still be using signed 32 bit integers for passing those values, which lowers the limit to 2G, or even further due to programming methods of each app.

    after reaching across the 20gb i can not expand it no more.
    that is why i made a second partion of 20gb
    That is likely to be the real limit then, though it's hard to be sure. It could just be an app-specific limitation. However, since the original Sony PS2 HDD (really a Maxtor with special firmware) was only 40 GB in size, it does make some sense to have an individual partition size limit of half that space. (Sony utilities require several mandatory partitions.)

    you will loss some mb's. each time you expand.
    Some loss for file system administration is quite normal, and the numbers you state indicate a loss of approximately a quarter percent, which I find quite acceptable.

    At least it's less than the 'seeming loss' we always have because hdd manufacturers lie about hdd sizes (using decimal K,M,G standards instead of binary, like the rest of the computing community uses). That 'loss' amounts to appx 7% of each GB claimed as storage capacity...

    i found two hddfrt.elf's on the net version 1.0 and 1.1
    i have 1.0 48-bit. Is 1.1 also 48-bit? if not could some body patch it.
    maybe it will help us out with this upgrade.
    I'm not completely sure about that one, but if it worked at all after writing past the 128GB limit, then it should be the 48-bit version, as the 28-bit version locks up when you try that.

    In any case, you can find several 48-bit patched tools, including the one you want, in this post: "http://www.psx-scene.com/forums/show...ighlight=48bit"

    Given this new info I now think you needn't worry much about the confusion of HDDFormat. It's probably just that it can't fully cope with free size calculations involving the HDL partitions, since those are NOT fully APA compatible. The true free space should still be usable by HDL installers.

    Best regards: dlanor
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    thanks to you dlanor
    i have fixed the problem
    upgrading from 1.0 48bit to 1.1 48bit have done the job now its displaying
    the right free disk space

    thank you
    now i can continue transfer my movies to ps2 hdd.

    thanks man
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