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  1. #1 2x USA v7 consoles... i can't make a fully working console! 
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    So here's the deal. I have 2 v7, american consoles (39001), which BOTH work but they have their issues.

    Here's the most important parts i have right now.

    -2 x v7 mobos, 1 with magic 3 mopchip and 1 with an unknown chip (could be messiah)

    -1 x fully working, complete laser assembly (the whole drive, not only the laser)

    -1 x fake network adapter (no eth port)

    -1 x 300 GB maxtor IDE HDD

    ok, let's see what we have here...

    the mobo with the unknown modchip works well with FMCB, it's the one i'm using right now, however i can't seem to use discs with it as the laser is NOT working with this motherboard, fuse/BA/LA blown? don't have a tester/multimeter, so i don't have the chance to look at it. i know the modchip works because it was working well until the laser died.

    the mobo with the magic3 modchip (green PCB) loads discs fine, be it DVD movies, PS2DVD, PS2CD and PSXCD. However, it only boots FMCB 1 out of 5 tries, the rest of the times it just sits there in a black screen. I have installed FMCB in a chinese fake MC, but this doesn't seem to be the problem since in the other motherboard it just works every time...

    QUESTIONS

    1.- It's obvious the motherboard with the unknown chip has something that is not working. The question is, WHAT isn't working???
    2.- The magic chip interferes with FMCB booting?
    3.- Why i can't have a FULLY WORKING FAT CONSOLE? D:
    4.- Could the fake NA be ****ing something up in the magic3 mobo?
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    UPDATE: just tried with the mobo with magic modchip, it stopped giving video signal...
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    1. The console with a defunct laser system might just have a blown laser. Those get damaged really easily, compared to PC optical drives. The BA chip of the SCPH-39000 series of consoles doesn't get blown so easily, compared to the LA6505 chip of the v9-v11 consoles.
    2. Maybe, but it might be because you are using an el-cheapo memory card. My 2 64MB compatible cards occasionally work very well on my SCPH-10000 and SCPH-39006 consoles, but work absolutely horribly on other occasions.... up to the point I think that it really depends on the consoles' "moods".
    (And the SCPH-10000 seems to be a bit more temperamental)
    Try using a genuine Sony Memory Card.
    3. You probably were just working in the wrong direction.
    4. Maybe, but it's unlikely. The NA gets connected to the DEV9 interface, which should not affect Magicgate.
    Unmodified SCPH-77006 with SM 3.6
    SCPH-39006 with M-chip modchip, SCPH-10281 NA and refurb Seagate 80GB HDD
    SCPH-10000 v1.00 with SCPH-10190 PCMCIA NA and SCPH-20400 HDD unit
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    Quote Originally Posted by SP193 View Post
    1. The console with a defunct laser system might just have a blown laser. Those get damaged really easily, compared to PC optical drives. The BA chip of the SCPH-39000 series of consoles doesn't get blown so easily, compared to the LA6505 chip of the v9-v11 consoles.
    You didn't understand. The laser assembly (the whole drive) WORKS, but not with this motherboard.

    Quote Originally Posted by SP193 View Post
    2. Maybe, but it might be because you are using an el-cheapo memory card. My 2 64MB compatible cards occasionally work very well on my SCPH-10000 and SCPH-39006 consoles, but work absolutely horribly on other occasions.... up to the point I think that it really depends on the consoles' "moods".
    (And the SCPH-10000 seems to be a bit more temperamental)
    Try using a genuine Sony Memory Card.
    It isn't the MC, it works absolutely fine in all games, and FMCB works flawlessly in all the other consoles i've tried (the other v7, a v14 and a v17)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kadorna2 View Post
    1.-
    It's obvious the motherboard with the unknown chip has something that is not working. The question is, WHAT isn't working???
    if the player is right for this model,
    look at something strange in the motherboard, some solder undone. A multimeter would be helpful to verify that the voltage be coming in the optical reader.

    Quote Originally Posted by kadorna2 View Post
    2.- The magic chip interferes with FMCB booting?
    some modchip, at times, hinder freemcboot, try to install it and launch it with the modchip off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kadorna2 View Post
    You didn't understand. The laser assembly (the whole drive) WORKS, but not with this motherboard.
    What did you do to arrive at that conclusion? Did you connect the faulty console's drive to the working console? Or did you do the reverse?

    If you did the reverse, do both consoles share the same laser model? The consoles of the SCPH-39000 series of consoles might not all share the same laser model.

    My SCPH-39006 has a Sanyo HD7 laser while my ex-SCPH-39001 console had a Sony KHS-400C. Both of them are not compatible with each other. (Unless I use the laserchanger program to reprogram my SCPH-39006 to accept a KHS-400C laser).

    Quote Originally Posted by kadorna2 View Post
    It isn't the MC, it works absolutely fine in all games, and FMCB works flawlessly in all the other consoles i've tried (the other v7, a v14 and a v17)
    It works about 70% of the time with my SCPH-39006 (v8), 50% of the time with my SCPH-10000 (v0) and 100% of the time with my SCPH-77006 (v15/v16) console.

    I'm not saying that using a Sony memory card will surely solve the problem you are experiencing, but doing so will eliminate the possibility that the memory card is the culprit.

    Not to mention that it seems like the Magicgate challenges seem to have a timeout. If the card somehow takes too long to respond to any one of the challenges, the console will reject the card for Magicgate operations.

    Have you tried removing the modchip? Failing, badly made and badly installed modchips can cause problems. Especially since it's connected to the heart of the PS2: The drive MECHanics CONtroller (MECHACON).

    Just be careful to not short or break any of the pins of any of the chips on the mainboard.
    Unmodified SCPH-77006 with SM 3.6
    SCPH-39006 with M-chip modchip, SCPH-10281 NA and refurb Seagate 80GB HDD
    SCPH-10000 v1.00 with SCPH-10190 PCMCIA NA and SCPH-20400 HDD unit
    PS2ESDL v0.823B

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    Well, like i've said before, the motherboard with the magic chip stopped showing video signal, when turned on it flickers for a second and then there's a black screen... so it's useless now.

    Quote Originally Posted by SP193 View Post
    What did you do to arrive at that conclusion? Did you connect the faulty console's drive to the working console? Or did you do the reverse?

    If you did the reverse, do both consoles share the same laser model? The consoles of the SCPH-39000 series of consoles might not all share the same laser model.

    My SCPH-39006 has a Sanyo HD7 laser while my ex-SCPH-39001 console had a Sony KHS-400C. Both of them are not compatible with each other. (Unless I use the laserchanger program to reprogram my SCPH-39006 to accept a KHS-400C laser).
    i don't know if i'm not expressing myself too well or you completely fail to understand what i wrote. I have only 1 laser assembly (COMPLETE, not only the lens, but the WHOLE drive with the tray and everything), which was originally on the PS2 with the magic modchip (the one that isn't showing video on screen anymore), and it still works with this motherboard (yes, it reads discs). However, it doesn't even attempt to read anything (not cds, not dvds, backups or originals) when connected to the WORKING motherboard (the one with the unknown modchip, i'm using it with FMCB as i wrote this). The laser turns on, the motor attempts to spin up, and then it stops as there is no disc on the tray. That's all it does. I have tried using lens changer with all the 4 available options, it still does the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by SP193 View Post
    Have you tried removing the modchip? Failing, badly made and badly installed modchips can cause problems. Especially since it's connected to the heart of the PS2: The drive MECHanics CONtroller (MECHACON).

    Just be careful to not short or break any of the pins of any of the chips on the mainboard.
    I won't be removing the magic modchip since i don't have the soldering skills to solder it again, and it worked like a charm for years. However i DID remove the unknown modchip since it uses a weird installing procedure, the cables are only soldered to the PS2 motherboard, the chip have sockets to connect the cables, like these ones.

    board-cable-connector-202545.jpg

    It didn't do jack shit. Next i will try use the working lens only with the original assembly of the laser used in this console, although i doubt it will do anything.

    UPDATE: it didn't work.
    Last edited by kadorna2; 11-21-2011 at 04:48 PM.
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