things you should know about ps2 mods

wajax · 02-05-2005,05:16 PM

okay so you want to put a modchip in your ps2 so you can play the backups of your origally purchased games . non modded ps2 units have generally lasted up to 5 years or more without a problem , units with the modchips have a life span of a couple hours to 2 or 3 years depoending how much you use it . up to version 8 ps2's seem to have the longest life span with a chip installed while the v9-12 units are frying lasers almost immediately or in a very short while the v9-12 units even without the mod seem to be having laser burnouts early in there life , by the way even with the romeo mod or summones fix - units are still frying lasers . why does this happen? simple - playing backups on your machine will age your laser quicker becuase of a lower quality burn on the media - thats why we all suggest use the best media and slow burning speeds . the big corporations have burners that cost as much as buying a new car . if your going to do a mod have it done professionally (for best results) and use a version of ps2 lower than version 9, and expect that your machine will not last as long as a stock box -in fact the modchip companies in there disclaimer will not be responsible for damage as a result of installing there product in your machine - why? search the web for problems related to ps2 mods and see for yourself that lasers are frying like they're going out of style of course you'll get the stories about the good mods too and anyone can write a review about something -good or bad and i'm not against modding i have a moded box too - i have had three ,each one to replace the one that died after a year or so , but i knew that was coming becuase i have experience with electronic components . this is simple analagy that can be applied to any mod be it a computer or car or ? they all cause an increase of wear to som other component and consumer electronics are by far more fragile than say a automobile engine (just to state the obvious) . okay so i just thought i'd write this to help some of you who are thinking of modding and aren't so technically inclined or those of you who have and wondering why your machine is broken a year later or sooner and 99 percent of the time it's a laser burnout - and they aren't cheap - v12 lasers are 85 - 130 dollars canadian -the cost of a new ps2 is 179 dolars canadian not to mentionthe chip 60 dollars canadian and install 2-3 hours at 65 bucks an hour at a reputable shop that will guarantee they're work(soldering) but not any damage that might occour unless it's related to a broken solder point that shorted out something else - even that will be a fight you must endure to get them to admit fault -after all it will cost them upwards 3-400 dollars to replace your machine - again thats canadian pricing .

okay enough said good luck modded or not were all in it for the gaming -remember when it was just ---fun!

**Solo761** · 02-05-2005,05:31 PM

Originally Posted by wajax

the big corporations have burners that cost as much as buying a new car

I don't think so. Why do you think originals are called pressed CD/DVDs. Originals aren't burned.

wajax · 02-05-2005,08:31 PM

Okay, sorry, I meant they are pressed cd's/dvd's, the machines that make these cost more than your last car! LOL! You don't happen to know anyone that owns a presser at home do you?---I didn't think so! And so you cannot duplicate a game anywhere near original quality free from errors that cause the Lazer to over work. Thank you and Good Night!

ps2modder · 02-05-2005,10:19 PM

That is true but i will fight your money saving theories with this. How much does a game cost. In USA terms, arounf 50 w/o tax. Now getting a burn game can be any where from 1-5 dallors depending on media and if you bought it. So on average. lets say in 1 year you buy 5 games. That is 250 dallors. Now burned media would cost 5-25 dallors. With the money you save, you can buy 5 new lasers, 2 new consoles or 10 repair jobs. Well, that is just my 2 cents

**messiahfan2003** · 02-05-2005,10:51 PM

I own a v9 console and have the romeo mod installed and so far no problems.

wajax · 02-06-2005,12:42 AM

i was wondering how long it would take for some installer to try to defend the mods - by the way do you offer a full replacement ,refund ,no hassle guarantee when the mod fries one of these units ? please tell us if you do .

and by the way ps2modder 5 games at 250 bucks and burning the same 5 saves you around 225 bucks in us dollars 5 lasers =345.00
2 consoles(walmart)=340.00
labour to install 5 lasers at 45/hr. u.s. = 225.00
total = 910.00 plus tax and loss of your unit while being repaired
so how will the savings of burning 5 games (225.00) enable me to buy all those items you listed that cost 910.00 plus tax as priced on u.s. web sites .
i guess math wasn't your thing ... good luck

kind of funny - ps2modder you pass yourself off as someone who is a modder yet i just read another of your postings in the modchip forum where your asking if swap magic 3 will work in a ps2 -LOL .. your crack picture best describes you and perhaps explains your lack of math skills...

**Solo761** · 02-06-2005,05:56 AM

I don't think he meant all of it. Just 5 lasers or 2 consoles or 10 repair jobs.

And as for quality I get worse result from kprobe scans on original disc (PS2 and non-PS2 discs) than on most of burned ones

. It depends alot on the burner and discs (traxdata isn't what it's thought to be, especialy 8x -Rs).

But I agree completely, noobs should stick to unmoded PS2s. I know what kind of crap discs (cheapest) they use and in what state they are in, scratched like two cats were fighting on it.

**modicullus** · 02-06-2005,02:26 PM

Ease up wajax... he was simply stating the obvious.

Why do you think people have modchips installed in the first place? Do you honestly think someone is only going to burn 5 games? ps2modder was just throwing numbers out - no need to attack him and start calling him down for his 'math' abilities. He's been around here a heck of a lot longer than you. Afterall, he does have 535 more posts than you... (how's that for math!).

Now I'm not replying to start anything. I just wanted to tell you to keep you comments to yourself. Those comments were uncalled for. Not everyone can be as brilliant as you.

Actually,... just out of curiousity now... are you an installer? Do you offer some sort of refund/replacement if a modchip that you installed fries their PS2? Just wondering...

ps2modder · 02-06-2005,04:19 PM

Most of the times, if you modified the ps2 right, it will be fine. However, a lot of people do botched installs or do not know how to install it correctly.

Verbal Kint · 02-06-2005,08:16 PM

Originally Posted by ps2modder

Most of the times, if you modified the ps2 right, it will be fine. However, a lot of people do botched installs or do not know how to install it correctly.

I agree !

And you forget three critical fact !!!

1) PS2 DIRTY LENS

80% of V3/V4/V5 return was caused by dirty lens

2) Misconception in V9/V10/V11/V12

There is a critical problem with the mechacon, it crash sometime
with terrible effect on tracking/focus coil ( the crash can occure without
chip and without disc inserted )

3) A Problem related most with ps2

my result is : 4 xbox lens problems ( only dirty, no killed lens )
for 65 ps2 lens problems ( dirty AND killed lens )

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