Question About The Disc Swap Trick

[DRIFT GOD]

hi, i read about playing burnt games on PS2 by taking the end of the disc drawer off, and loading GS2, then when it says to change discs you slide the little tab under the disc drawer all the way to the right, and manually open the drawer and insert the burnt game, then slide the tab back to its original position and press the "x" button to load the game.

my question is, will this work if i load a PAL game into my NTSC PS2?

[charlie_ps2]

Yes.

[DRIFT GOD]

awesome thanx

a good friend of mine in the uk is sending me GT CONCEPT

[DRIFT GOD]

ok i got my copy of GT CONCEPT today, and cant get this to work, any suggestions??? this is the actual game, not a burnt copy, should it still work??? also i have the NETWORK ADAPTOR installed, will this have any affect on it ???

[fogbank]

Originally posted by DRIFT GOD
ok i got my copy of GT CONCEPT today, and cant get this to work, any suggestions??? this is the actual game, not a burnt copy, should it still work??? also i have the NETWORK ADAPTOR installed, will this have any affect on it ???

If GT Concept is a DVD based game then you must use a "double swap" technique to boot it with GS2/AR2. This means you must insert an original DVD game with a TOC equal to or greater than the game you are swapping in. You must do this by pressing the 'eject' button normally. The PS2 must read and validate the original game, and the disc must stop spinning before you use your tray-open swap trick.

Search forums for more details of the double swap trick required for DVD/DVD-R booting using GS2/AR2.

[villasg]

for helping :
>=4GB
4.37GB - PAL - Devil May Cry
4.37GB - JAP - Devil May Cry
4.37GB - NTSC - Devil May Cry
4.37GB - NTSC - TimeSplitters 2
4.37GB - PAL - Grand Theft Auto 3
4.37GB - PAL - Time Crisis 2
4.36GB - NTSC - Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance
4.36GB - PAL - PSM Special Edition Player's Guide: PS2 Greatest Hits Vol. 3
4.35GB - PAL - Dead or Alive 2
4.35GB - PAL - Disney's Jungle Book Groove Party
4.35GB - NTSC - DOA 2 Hardcore
4.34GB - NTSC - GTA Vice City
4.34GB - NTSC - State of Emergency
4.34GB - PAL - State of Emergency
4.33GB - NTSC - Soul Reaver 2
4.32GB - NTSC - Silent Hill 2
4.31GB - PAL - Dragon Ball Z Budokai
4.31GB - NTSC - Eternal Ring
4.31GB - PAL - 7 Blades
4.30GB - NTSC - Metal Gear Solid 2
4.28GB - PAL - Final Fantasy X
4.26GB - JAP - Final Fantasy X
4.23GB - NTSC - Mobile Suite Gundam
4.23GB - NTSC - Kessen
4.21GB - PAL - Kessen
4.21GB - NTSC - OPM Mag Demo Disc Issue/Disc 63
4.21GB - NTSC - Parappa The Rapper 2
4.21GB - PAL - Parappa The Rapper
4.19GB - NTSC - Final Fantasy X
4.18GB - PAL - Haven: Call Of The Kings
4.18GB - NTSC - Rayman Revolution
4.18GB - PAL - Rayman Revolution
4.17GB - NTSC - Motor Mayhem
4.17GB - PAL - Airblade
4.16GB - PAL - Alone in the Dark The New Nightmare
4.16GB - PAL - Tekken 4
4.15GB - NTSC - Riding Spirits
4.14GB - PAL - The Getaway
4.13GB - PAL - Offical UK PlayStation2 Magazine #027/Dec. 2002
4.10GB - PAL - The Bouncer
4.08GB - PAL - Fur Fighters
4.08GB - NTSC - PSX Mag Demo Disk Issue #49
4.08GB - NTSC - Ty The Tasmanian Tiger
4.07GB - NTSC - Kessen 2
4.07GB - NTSC - Max Payne
4.03GB - NTSC - FIFA 2002
4.03GB - NTSC - Run Like Hell
4.02GB - PAL - Max Payne
4.02GB - PAL - FIFA 2002
4.01GB - PAL - Shadow of Memories
4.01GB - NTSC - Hitman 2
4.00GB - JAP - Genso Suikoden 3
4.00GB - NTSC - Suikoden III

>=3GB
3.96GB - NTSC - Stuntman
3.93GB - PAL - Conflict Desert Storm
3.93GB - PAL - Who Wants to be a Millionaire 2nd Edit
3.92GB - PAL - Rachet & Clank
3.90GB - PAL - WRC 2
3.87GB - NTSC - Burnout
3.87GB - JAP - Parappa the Rapper 2
3.85GB - NTSC - Blood Omen 2
3.85GB - PAL Burnout
3.84GB - NTSC - Burnout 2
3.83GB - NTSC - Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers
3.79GB - NTSC - Space Ace
3.76GB - NTSC - Onimushi Warlords
3.74GB - JAP - Onimushi Warlords 2
3.71GB - PAL - Resident Evil Code Veronica X
3.70GB - PAL - Medal Of Honor:Frontline
3.69GB - NTSC - Commandos 2: Men Of Courage
3.61GB - NTSC - GT3
3.61GB - JAP - GT Concept Tokyo 2001
3.61GB - NTSC - Test Drive
3.60GB - PAL - Toca Race Driver
3.58GB - NTSC - Myst III Exile
3.56GB - NTSC - PSX U/ground : Jampack : Winter 2001
3.54GB - NTSC - Evergrace
3.53GB - NTSC - Twisted metal Black
3.52GB - NTSC - Armoured Core 2 - Another Age
3.52GB - NTSC - Onimusha 2 Samurai's Destiny
3.52GB - PAL - Armoured Core 2
3.49GB - PAL - Project Zero
3.48GB - NTSC - Baulders Gate - Dark Alliance
3.47GB - NTSC - Forever Kingdom
3.43GB - PAL - GT3
3.41GB - PAL - GT Concept 2002
3.37GB - NTSC - Jade Cocoon 2
3.37GB - PAL - Silent Hill 2
3.36GB - JAP - Slient Hill 2
3.31GB - JAP - Ace Combat 4
3.31GB - NTSC - Ace Combat 4
3.30GB - PAL - Extermination
3.30GB - NTSC - Armored Core 2
3.25GB - NTSC - Socom US Navy Seals
3.16GB - PAL - WWE SmackDown Shut Your Mouth
3.13GB - NTSC - Medal of Honor - FrontLine
3.08GB - NTSC - Mad Dog Mcree
3.03GB - PAL - Official Aus PS MAG Issue #12
3.01GB - NTSC - Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3

>=2GB
2.98GB - NTSC - Driven
2.94GB - NTSC - Summoner 2
2.91GB - PAL - Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
2.90GB - NTSC - Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2
2.89GB - NTSC - PSX U/ground Jampack
2.88GB - NTSC - Shadow Hearts
2.87GB - PAL - Monstors Inc.
2.86GB - NTSC - PSX U/ground Holiday 2001
2.85GB - PAL - Portal Runner
2.83GB - NTSC - Kingdom Hearts
2.83GB - NTSC - Portal Runner
2.73GB - NTSC - The Bouncer
2.70GB - NTSC - SSX Tricky
2.68GB - NTSC - NFL 2002
2.68GB - NTSC - Paris Dakar Rally
2.68GB - PAL - Paris Dakar Rally
2.66GB - NTSC - Gitaroo Man
2.63GB - NTSC/PAL - WWF Smackdown - Just Bring it
2.60GB - NTSC - Sly Cooper & Thievius Raccoonus
2.59GB - PAL Colin McRae Rally 3
2.53GB - PA -L World Rally Championship
2.51GB - NTSC - The Mark Of Kri
2.51GB - JAP - Wild Arms Advanced 3rd
2.49GB - NTSC - Wild Arms 3
2.49GB - NTSC - Wild Arms 3
2.48GB - PAL - Sky Odyssey
2.48GB - NTSC - Unison Rebels of Rythmn & Dance
2.48GB - NTSC - Shaun Palmers Pro Snowbaording
2.32GB - NTSC - Simpsons Road Rage
2.31GB - PAL - Simpsons Road Rage
2.30GB - NTSC - Pirates - The Legend of Black Kat
2.27GB - NTSC - Salt Lake 2002
2.27GB - NTSC - Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2003
2.24GB - NTSC - ESPN X-Games Snowboarding 2002
2.23GB - NTSC - Lord Of The Rings : The Fellowship Of The Ring
2.21GB - PAL - Wipeout Fusion
2.20GB - NTSC - Legia 2 Dual Saga
2.15GB - NTSC - Tekken 4
2.15GB - PAL - Ecco the Dolphin
2.13GB - NTSC - Sky Odyssey
2.11GB - PAL - Cart Fury Championship Racing
2.10GB - PAL - Pro Evolution Soccer 2
2.07GB - NTSC - Red Faction 2
2.05GB - PAL - Onimusha Warlords
2.05GB - PAL - Hidden Invasion
2.05GB - PAL - Splashdown
2.04GB - NTSC - Turok Evolution
2.03GB - PAL - This is Football 2002
2.02GB - NTSC - Splashdown
2.00GB - NTSC - Dynasty Warriors 3

>=1GB
1.97GB - NTSC - Grandia Xtreme
1.93GB - NTSC - Gundam Mobile Suit Zeonic Front
1.92GB - NTSC - Gundam Journey to Jaburo
1.92GB - NTSC - Zone of Enders
1.92GB - PAL - Kuri Kuri Mix
1.91GB - NTSC - Extermination
1.90GB - PAL - Dropship
1.90GB - JAP - Ape Escape 2
1.89GB - PAL - Spy Hunter
1.89GB - JAP - Resident Evil Gun Survivor 2
1.89GB - PAL - Resident Evil Gun Survivor 2
1.87GB - PAL - Prisoner of War
1.86GB - PAL - Agressive Inline
1.81GB - NTSC - Spy Hunter
1.80GB - NTSC - Victorious Boxers
1.79GB - NTSC - Fantavision
1.78GB - PAL - Zone of Enders
1.78GB - NTSC - Cart Fury Championship Racing
1.77GB - PAL - Victorious Boxers - Ippos Road to Glory
1.75GB - NTSC - Resident Evil Code Veronica X
1.74GB - JAP - Bio Hazzard Code Veronica X
1.73GB - NTSC - Drakan
1.73GB - NTSC - NBA 2k2
1.73GB - NTSC - Nascar Heat 2k2
1.71GB - NTSC - Red Faction
1.71GB - PAL - Red Faction
1.71GB - NTSC - Nascar heat 2001
1.70GB - NTSC - ESPN Winter Games Snowboarding
1.70GB - NTSC - NFL Gameday 2003
1.68GB - PAL - Disneys Dinosaur
1.67GB - NTSC - Escape From Monkey Island
1.67GB - NTSC - Dark Cloud
1.46GB - NTSC - X-Men Next Dimenson
1.63GB - NTSC - Star Trek Voyager - Elite Force
1.60GB - PAL - Escape From Monkey Island
1.58GB - NTSC - Project Eden
1.52GB - NTSC - Madden NFL 2003
1.52GB - PAL - WDL-War Jetz
1.51GB - NTSC - James Bond 007 Agent Under Fire
1.49GB - PAL - Men in Black 2 : Alien Escape
1.46GB - NTSC - Tokyo Xtreme Racer Zero
1.46GB - NTSC - Smugglers Run 2
1.46GB - NTSC - NFL Gameday
1.45GB - NTSC - Dino Stalker
1.42GB - NTSC - PSX U/ground Demo Disk Ver 2.3
1.40GB - NTSC - Duel Hearts
1.40GB - PAL - WDL - Thunder Tanks
1.38GB - NTSC - Ephemeral Phantasy
1.36GB - NTSC - NFL Blitz 2002
1.36GB - JAP - Aero Dancing 4 New Generation
1.35GB - NTSC - Jak & Daxter - The Precursor Legacy
1.34BG - NTSC - NCAA Football 2003
1.34GB - NTSC - Orphen: Scion of Sorcery
1.33GB - PAL - Star Trek Voyager Elite Forces
1.31GB - JAP/NTSC Gun Grave
1.30GB - PAL - Master Rallye
1.29GB - NTSC - F1 2001
1.28GB - NTSC - Deus Ex
1.28GB - NTSC - Evolution Skateboarding
1.21GB - NTSC - Klonoa 2
1.20GB - NTSC - BloodRayne
1.18GB - NTSC - Draken The Ancient Gate
1.18GB - NTSC - Grandia 2
1.15GB - PAL - Summoner
1.14GB - NTSC - Summoner
1.10GB - NTSC - Gadget Racers
1.07GB - NTSC - Heroes of Might and Magic
1.07GB - NTSC - Monster Rancher 3
1.04GB - PAL - The Weakest Link
1.03GB - NTSC - Tiger Woods 2002
1.00GB - NTSC - Shadow of Destiny

<=1GB
0.99GB - PAL - Thunderhawk Operation Pheonix
0.99GB - PAL - World Champion Snooker 2002
0.99GB - NTSC - Vampire Night
0.98GB - NTSC - NFL Blitz 2003
0.97GB - PAL - ATV Off Road Fury
0.93GB - PAL - Giants Citizen Kabuto
0.93GB - PAL - Twin Caliber
0.89GB - NTSC - Kinetica
0.89GB - PAL - Rayman M
0.84GB - NTSC - ATV Off Road Fury
0.79GB - PAL - MX Rider
0.78GB - NTSC - Tarzan Untamed
0.73GB - NTSC - Soldier of Fortune Gold Edition
0.71GB - NTSC - The Mummy Returns
0.68GB - NTSC - Batman Vengance

[pracola]

You will also need AR V2+ and it will not work if your PS2 is a version 7!

[DRIFT GOD]

The PS2 must read and validate the original game, and the disc must stop spinning before you use your tray-open swap trick

when does the disc stop spinning??? mine never stops, also i have a V1 PS2,and GS2, thanx for the help guys

[villasg]

Originally posted by DRIFT GOD
when does the disc stop spinning??? mine never stops, also i have a V1 PS2,and GS2, thanx for the help guys

Check your laser diode imedietly.

[fogbank]

Originally posted by DRIFT GOD
when does the disc stop spinning??? mine never stops, also i have a V1 PS2,and GS2, thanx for the help guys

No you don't need to check your laser diode immediately. I think Villasg is misunderstanding.

When (or whether) the DVD original stops spinning depends on the exact version of GS2 you have, and the techniques you use. It can get a little complicated, but there is a method for most versions of GS2 that will stop the original DVD game from spinning so you can perform the swap.

For example, with GS2 v1.90 through 1.93 you can simply select 'Start Game' and 'Without Codes' while the original DVD game is in the drive. When the 'Press X to Start Game' screen comes up, the disc should stop spinnng. Then you would perform your tray swap.

With later versions like 1.99 you need to do a "code overload" trick to get the disc to stop spinning. Search around for info on 'Dave Mirra' or 'Armored Core 2' code overload tricks to get the original DVD to stop spinning.

Sorry I can't give more detailed info, but it's been a long time since I've dealt with these issues. If you really want to make swap booting simpler then get the Swap Magic discs. They eliminate all of the confusing issues that the GS2 has with DVD-R booting.

Next someone will undoubtedly tell you to get a no-swap modchip installed in your PS2.