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    cypresshill Guest
    hi guys.....

    i am from the xbox scene, but i also want to get my ps2 chipped, i like to think i know quiet alot about xbox hacking, but im new to ps2 hacking.

    can any one suggest a good site that will have tutorials on how to install mod chip and other modifications.

    and here are the noob questions that have only been asked 100000000times

    first, if i chip my ps2 will i still be able to go online, on xbox live you get banned strait away!

    if i want to install a bigger hdd does it have to be one that can be locked? and i heard that the latest app (i think its called hdd loader) only supports 120gb is this true?

    i have acton replay max for ps2, will that let me play my backups? how?

    i have found a site that does show you diagrams of modchips but it looked really coplicated! is it harder to install a modchip on a ps2 than an xbox?

    any help will be apriciated.
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    Most PS2 chips require minimun ca. 14-24 wires. It depends on the version of your PS2 if it's hard to install, for example on a V3 PAL PS2 (early model) you need to solder to the tiny legs of a TQFP-controller chip... Not that easy *g*

    The chip does not really affect online gaming, what is more important is DNAS.
    An un-patched backup copy will not return a valid Disc ID, because the Disc ID cannot be copied with usual equipment (DVD-writer, CD-writer).
    Therefore it needs to be patched into the game.

    Consoles using games with mass-duplicated Disc ID, which are spread on the internet will be banned.(to get it working again is change of machine ID).

    HD-Loader is a special disk, that allow copying games to an internal harddrive, much like Evo-X... Please note, that HD-Loader discussion is not allowed here.
    The HD-Advance is just a crappy clone of HD-Loader with changed menu.
    PS2 DTL-H30001 /w no need for chip :-)
    PS2 DTL-H10000S /w no need for chip - strange thing....

    PS2 SCPH-30004,V3 /w DMS3 2.0, severly damaged! :-(
    PS2 SCPH-30004 /wo chip (need new laser)
    PS2 SCPH-50004 /w Crystal (severly damaged!)

    PSX DTL-H1102 /w no need for chip :-) brand-new & boxed!
    PSX DTL-H1002 /w no need for chip :-) (laser damage)
    PSX SCPH-1000 severly damaged :-(
    PSX SCPH-9002 /w MM3 stealth (laser damage)
    PSX SCPH-102 /w 12C508A DIP 8 wire (ONECHIP)


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    wow thanks that was very helpful!

    what 14 wires! are you kidding me! i cant belieave it! and i thought xbox was hard!

    sorry could you just asnwer my questions about action replay, i remember that on ps1 you mistaked it inot thinking that it was an origenal game by swaping the disks, can this be doen with action replay?

    you triggerd one more question..........

    when you chip you conscole its so that you can load the "hacked" bios and play backups right? well how does it let you play backups if you can swap the disk?

    is it like a firewall in a scence, once you get in you have unlimeted access? well i think you know what i mean.


    again, i apriciate your help and any other help you can help me with! lol
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    Modchips lets you play backups. Dont need and "hacked" bios. Unless you have a Crystal Chip. Then you need a "hacked" firmware to let it play backups.
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    The Mod-Chip just emulates the protection found on original PS2 discs...

    The protection scheme is totatlly different to Xbox. While Xbox does apparently not use a hardware based protection, it includes signed XBE's.
    PS2 uses only a hardware protection to detect, wheter a CD/DVD is original Sony pressed or copied (CD-R/DVD-R, HK silver)

    Just like the old PSX modchip injected a serial datastream of SCEI SCEA SCEE present in the wobble track of an original CD, but lacking in a copied CD-R or HK silver.

    The firmware we are talking about is only for the modchip... The chip does not in anyway replace the consoles firmware, it just patches it and the data coming from the drive.

    I think, using Action Replay MAX it's not possible, but using Action Replay 2 it was possible to use a method of swapping with a knife...

    But i do not recommend any swapping technique (such as Z's crappy Swapmagic), because you damage the drive using such techniques, also some games cause problems because of the TOC...

    The best and cleanest solution is a mod chip.

    Also, for Xbox, you don't even need a chip, you can just TSOP-flash it... So you see, it's totally different protection used.
    PS2 DTL-H30001 /w no need for chip :-)
    PS2 DTL-H10000S /w no need for chip - strange thing....

    PS2 SCPH-30004,V3 /w DMS3 2.0, severly damaged! :-(
    PS2 SCPH-30004 /wo chip (need new laser)
    PS2 SCPH-50004 /w Crystal (severly damaged!)

    PSX DTL-H1102 /w no need for chip :-) brand-new & boxed!
    PSX DTL-H1002 /w no need for chip :-) (laser damage)
    PSX SCPH-1000 severly damaged :-(
    PSX SCPH-9002 /w MM3 stealth (laser damage)
    PSX SCPH-102 /w 12C508A DIP 8 wire (ONECHIP)


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    if you consider xbox hard, don't even touch a ps2.. it's MUCH harder. most of the points are "d0" sized.
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    Just let someone install the chip for you.
    PS2 DTL-H30001 /w no need for chip :-)
    PS2 DTL-H10000S /w no need for chip - strange thing....

    PS2 SCPH-30004,V3 /w DMS3 2.0, severly damaged! :-(
    PS2 SCPH-30004 /wo chip (need new laser)
    PS2 SCPH-50004 /w Crystal (severly damaged!)

    PSX DTL-H1102 /w no need for chip :-) brand-new & boxed!
    PSX DTL-H1002 /w no need for chip :-) (laser damage)
    PSX SCPH-1000 severly damaged :-(
    PSX SCPH-9002 /w MM3 stealth (laser damage)
    PSX SCPH-102 /w 12C508A DIP 8 wire (ONECHIP)


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    hi guys.....

    i am from the xbox scene, but i also want to get my ps2 chipped, i like to think i know quiet alot about xbox hacking, but im new to ps2 hacking.

    Hey a fellow X-S'r! I'm new here too.

    can any one suggest a good site that will have tutorials on how to install mod chip and other modifications.

    They've got diagrams here - tons of them. Nothing as descriptive as X-S though. Pretty much just connect the points as shown in the diagrams and sift through some of the pictures of example installs.

    first, if i chip my ps2 will i still be able to go online, on xbox live you get banned strait away!

    Not necessarily - the latest Xecuter 2 bios kills your network connection and prevents you from getting banned if you forget to turn your mod off.

    if i want to install a bigger hdd does it have to be one that can be locked? and i heard that the latest app (i think its called hdd loader) only supports 120gb is this true?

    I don't think locking is required like it is on a stock xbox. I heard you can go as big as you want but it will only recognize 120GB **EDIT: there's a 48-bit patch out now for larger HDDs**. Check this out:
    http://ps2drives.x-pec.com/


    is it harder to install a modchip on a ps2 than an xbox?

    Yes - it's the crazy wiring. The upside is there's no software configuration involved and no need to flash your chip - that's changing I guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by HONGXING
    Also, for Xbox, you don't even need a chip, you can just TSOP-flash it... So you see, it's totally different protection used.
    On v1.6 Xboxs there is no TSOP so those models have to be chipped.
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    I have found 30 AWG Kynar wire to work extremely well in modding the PS2s. I just use 26 AWG for the power and ground. The trick in most chips is to lay the wires flat along the board and not have them cross more that they have to. This keeps the situation of "cross talk" to a minimum. Cross Talk is usually only a problem with the more powerfull chips with a lot of feature which require more power through the wires.

    Look at the forums of other member's installs, this is really helpfull in chip placement. The idea is to keep the Power and ground wires as short as possible.

    For the soldering I use a Antex 15Watt iron with an iron needle top. This makes soldering a lot easier.

    If you've got any questions, feel free to PM me, im always up for helping out a fellow member.
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