New v7 w/Magic 3.1 questions

[trumpetguyscw]

Hi all,
I got a new v7 fitted with a Magic 3.1, only had it for a week before getting it chipped. Anyways, everything is great, however, I noticed that my CD-R backups take much longer to boot than the DVD-R and DVD+R that I have, and the laser is MUCH louder than the DVD's are, it makes the reading noise much louder, no out of the ordinary sounds though that would make me suspicious otherwise. Is this in any way bad or damaging to my console? I know these backups are high quality because they worked perfectly on a v4 no solder ps2, and they were all burned at 1X using Verbatim and Fujifilm media, which is in my opinion the two best CD-R media around.
I'm just wondering if there's any good reason why backups that had no trouble on a horrible no solder would suddenly be harder to read on a better ps2 laser with a magic 3.1 in it. Bill Ederer put in my chip, so I know it was done to the best quality possible. If you have any ideas, please let me know, thanks!

[Fat_Mike]

Well, I have a V7 and a Magic 3.1 and on my system, CD-R game make more noise than DVD-R. DVD-R don't make any noise at all.

[woore]

why is it that none of my cdrs work when i install a magic 3.1 in my ps2 but they work when i install my messiah 2

[trumpetguyscw]

I have come to the conclusion that it is simply a question of media quality. If you don't burn your games on something nice like Verbatim or Fujifilm, your console is not going to pick them up using the Magic 3.1 because of a different booting method.
As for you Fat Mike, how long have you had your Magic 3.1 ps2, and have you noticed any decrease in performance as a result of playing these loud CD-R's?

[Fat_Mike]

Here some more background info. The V7 PS2 is brand new from a Sony Factory. I have it since December 25. My Girlfriend's uncle work for some division of Sony so he was able to get the unit a little cheaper than store. I installed the Magic 3.1 last week, January 28. I had made some backup on the cheapest media one could buy before buying the chip. They were 35¢ CAD each and had no brand. They were so cheap that I could wear them as goggle without too much problem. The CD-R seem to come from Princo factory according to CD-R ID utility. None of them would boot. I tried to reburn all my game to Maxell CD-R and they all boot great. With Maxell CD-R, the laser make more noise than my Princo DVD-R. But with original, the CD game were making some noise but not as much. The thing is that if I burn a PSX game on one of my 35¢ CD, it will boot. So it's clearly the Magic PS2 boot sequence that cause the problem with certain CD-R. I've just bought a couple of Verbatim CD-R to try out, and as soon as my download are completed, I will try to burn on them and see if the noise is still here. But they are not that lousy, the lens just seem to make more noise than normal, but nothing too extreme for CD drive. I don't think it will decrease the performance of my PS2 but like I said, I have the mod chip since about 1 or 2 week max, so I don't really know. Be sure to let me know if you find something.

Edit: Oh, And I forgot to mention that my Magic 3.1 is the blue PCB version

[precisionmods]

CDRs require more power drawn by the laser to get the correct reflective wavelength. That's where the extra noise is coming from. Factory CD's and DVD's are pressed as the pits and lands on the track are more clearly defined. Charlie_PS2 has written an article about this in much more detail and more extensive.

[charlie_ps2]

Originally posted by woore
why is it that none of my cdrs work when i install a magic 3.1 in my ps2 but they work when i install my messiah 2

Your backups are in the category I reported in my Magic 3.1 review. Were they all DVD rips?

[kizmet]

i think its raw mode promplem, because when i had a no-solder my games booted perfectly on the ps2, then i upgraded to Magic 3.1 and then non of them worked. try using Alcohol 120% in PS2 mode.

[trumpetguyscw]

Yeah, I tried a friend's DVD rip game just for fun and it didn't boot, kinda a plus though in a strange way with the Magic 3.1 mods, keeps you from ruining your ps2 laser so easily. I say stick to DVD+R or DVD-R only, no DVD rips to CD-R. All my Verbatim and Fujifilm CD-R backups play perfectly, non of which are DVD rips, as do my TDK DVD-R backups and my Hewlett Packard DVD+R backup. I was just wondering if there was any apparent worries for the extreme excess in reading noise.