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More messiah v7 problems
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I have had to faulty installs with the same batch of messiah 2 pro v1.30 chips. I feel like killing the guy who sold them to me. Last night i did a perfect install and everything worked first time. But after 10 minutes of playing a DVD it just packed up and said it could not read the disc. when i reset the machine everything is dead. I remove the chip and discover the motherboard is fried.
I have just installed another of this batch in a machine tonight and everything worked fine first time and what a suprise.... after 10 minutes of playing a dvd movie the motherboard dies. what the hell is going on, has anyone experienced these problems before?
charlie ps2 should respond to this thread.. although i believe he is outside the uk and from ps2news.. ive experiemced this problem with magic 3.1 chips but never with messiahs... maybe it was a faulty batch ???????
I have yet to see a M2 fry a PS2 The chip may fail I have seen this but it won't kill the PS2. Most likley when the removal of the chip was done a bridge accured or a solder splash. Get the 3x magnifier out and look closely at the BIOS legs. And any other point you soldered to. Solder wick and flux is best to clean bridges. Achohol and a tooth brush help loosen up solder balls that may have crept under chips.
i've only seen 1 m2 kill a board, and that was when i used an alternate 3.3v that i saw on a bluechip diagram, had no failsafe when the chip sucked too much power another chip went, i guess it's 1/2 my fault...or maybe all my fault
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Lod is right. The chip won't fry the motherboard.
It turned out that if i removed the wires from the bios (still atached to powered messiah 2 pro) that i got it to work again but nnot with backups. I have attached and re-attached them several times and i either get a black screen or dvd drive making screeching and clicking noises. I have checked all connections with multi-meter and all seem to be correct. Is this a definite bios problem. Is the messiah 2 pro def faulty now?
The messiah 2 pro worked fine for a while but maybe it has killed itself?
If the chip is faulty what you would get is the RSOD when trying to boot a backup. Originals may or may not work with a faulty chip installed. If you keep getting a black screen when the bios wires are installed I would say its installer error.
I don't think that there is much agreement with you about the suggestion that Messiah 2 causes the v7 motherboard to fail.
Wonder Who the TERMINATOR is, and what exactly he sells, could it be the 1.07 messiah 2 coded actel antifuse chips that look similar to m2's?
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I have to say - I had a customer buy 5 Messiah2 V1.30 off me a while back - and one turned out to be a dud - still to get around to returning it to chris...
What happened was similar to how this thread started - worked fine to start with and then 10 or so minutes into use it failed - and even when left alone it stayed bad until he removed it - i.e. even leaving it over night did not help so it was not a heat problem.
Changing the chip over and the station worked fine.
He then stuck the dud in another station and again it worked for 10 minutes and then failed.
I would like to point out here though - contrary to the comments above by some - both stations survived the experience - the guy was a decent installer that took his time and as such - no damage was done - a replacement chip "fixed" both MB's.
So the chip was definitely a dud - possibly a manufacturing fault - hairline bridge between tracks or legs or possibly a faulty actel chip.
But either way these things happen in electronics - just always hope it is to some one else.
Only actual component death I have seen was the drive on a V7 died when a M2 V1.3 was installed - but this could have been just waiting to happen anyway... (although it was a practically new station so... who knows why...)
replacing the drive with no changes to chip or wiring and the station worked fine so... not enough to say conclusively that Messiah's sux - just that these things can happen!
That is why those charging bugger all for an install better hope they don't get one of these nasties happen to them... would eat into profits very quickly... a risk factor needs to be factored into the price of an install - especially if you offer a warranty on your work like all good installers should.
end long winded dribble!