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Messiah 2 possible faulty chip
Messiah 2 possible faulty chip –
I recently installed a messiah 2 pro v1.30 in a v7 and i was having problems with the ps2 not booting anything at all. when trying to boot dvd's it would make a sort of clicking screeching noise and when booting cd-r it would make a sucking noise (ocassionly booting a cd-r to the beginning of a game but no further). I switched the chip to another messiah 2 because everything was double checked several times and assumed faulty chip. with the new chip i experienced the same problems so assumed it was not the chip and backed out of installation completely. I then found the motherboard was broken.
I assumed i busted the board during installation and the chip was ok. I have just tried using that chip again and now experiencing the same problems. Did this chip bust the last motherboard before i swithched to the new chip that also did not work?
Has this chip now busted another motherboard? I have done continuity checks on every connection and the messiah 2 chi is not grounding on the cage and there are no shorts cause all the wires are laid flat.
Can a faulty chip break a motherboard?
what would you suggest given the problem outlined at the top?
Assuming it cant be bios because it goes through to the browser screen eventually, its def not the laser settigns as brand new ps2. It just cant get a focus?
is it a busted SCex?
thanks for any help
hmmm hard to tell if its a faulty chip, i may be wrong on this but i think if the chip is faulty the ps2 should boot original games without any problems... sounds to me like you have a few wires mixed up with the wrong connections or something is bridged, possibly the bios legs somewhere.. Scex is not even nessessary to boot ps2 games... only ps1 games.. so dont worry about the scex... recheck your cd/dvd wires and bios... recheck the clk wire as well.. Maybe charlie_ps2 can shed some light on this
The same happened to me, thought that was a clone chip. Everyone said that clones kill machines, seems original M2 also can do that. (and yes I installed the chip in two machines, and killed both, sure the soldering was ok, as tested the points for thousand times, but the same as your, some clicking with dvd's and nothing else. Except that I can boot original PSX games, and if there is the chip in it, even backup PSX games work. No PS2 CD's and DVD's... Someone said that I was to lame to install that chip, sure, but I can pass the chip to anyone, and sure it will kill anyone's ps2 who dares install it...
yeh, its killed 2 boards now and wasted many hours fiddling around with it. I am gonna give the guy i brought it off some greif!
what i used to do when i thought i had a bad chip was take everything off, clean it all up. test all the problem stuff w/o a chip in it, and make sure the ps2 isn't shady, then i do the 5 wire(scex/reset/power/ground/clock) psx test, if a psx backup boots, i do the a-i wires, then put in my gameshark and test a backup behind the gameshark if that works, go ahead and do the bios wires, and everything should work
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you got to be carefull about some v7 lazers, i had some installation where the lazer would make some wierd clicking noise, i took another brand new v7 lazer and put it in, same thing.... then i took a lazer off a v5 and it worked, the same board that didn't work at all with a v7 lazer worked perfect with a lazer out of a v5.......just keep that in mind........
So the whole story of mine:
I always test all pS2's that I want to chip for about ONE hour. PSX, PS2 CD/DVD, and a dvd movie (DVD-R just to make sure that the laser is ok for backups). Well if ANYTHING seems to be not ok, I do not go on. (this means I do not remove the warranty sticker, etc).
When the warranty sticker is removed then the PS2 was tested for 100% and WORKED.
So let's go on these "magic" chipping(s). I recheck all wires/connections for many times. (first when I solder, then after all wires are soldered and finally once again) That means when I fit a chip the whole process is checked at least 3 times !!! Of course if I find anything STRANGE (bad solder point, cold solder point, bridges, solder balls, etc) I do not go on until the problem is solved.
And the "magic": the PS2s' that died. After the steps I wrote above I finally reassmeble the PS2, just the power supply and the fan + the eject/power button. If all went ok, the PS2 used to work. But in a few cases I had problems. The syndrome is that the PS2 clicks when inserting a DVD movie or DVD game, PS2 CD games just spin a bit then stops, spin again, then stops and the browser comes up. And what a surprise only PSX games work. Ok, ok, I know a clean start might help so I remove the chip and what the hell, the SAME happens. (PSX original games boot, no original PS2 or DVD movies work anymore...) So the PS2 is dead. Ok, I was wrong, something went wrong might be told. But when installing the SAME chip in another brand new machine and HAPPENS the same... (the SAME day) Is it not STRANGE ??? I BET if I had been to install that chip in 100 machines then I'd already have had 100 dead machines... Sony says that the drives are fault. Uh, and don't let them make me laugh, when I tested the drives in a brand new machine and ALL dead ps2s' drive WORKED perfectly !!! So of course the motherboards are dead and not the drives/lasers... (of course I can't tell them that I know what's wrong as you all know why...) But Sony wants me to look a stupid idiot whose drives are bad... (when they have no clue what the problem is...) Now I started testing these motherboards that died right after chipping (some guys have had the same problems, so by now I have some dead boards...) and all seem ok, the BA's are ok, no fuse problem... this really seems as a bad calibration, or focus problem, but what causes this is still unknown for me. Especially that why can it focus on PSX disks but not on PS2 cd's ? Maybe the CD/DVD controller itself is the problem ? Unfortunatelly I have no tool to remove/replace that...
anything that might be interesting would be great to hear...
thanks and regards, Stephen
pS: up till now, I collected some chips that caused the syndrome I wrote about. These are NH3, Magic 3.1 (probably not the original but a clone),Matrix. But seems not only 5v chips can cause this.
this is pretty much exactly the same as i have found!
hehe... it is usually the installer that kills the ps2 not the chip...
NÃ‚Â£TMÃ‚Â£Ãƒâ€¡H: ok, maybe. We are few here with the very same problem. Thought have never heard any answer WHAT the problem is exactly, and HOW to solve it. Seems none really knows that, except saying that it's the installer's fault. All in all, I have heard exactly the opposite on another forum, where everyone said that it's the chip that caused this. Don't know, althought the consoles "died" and would be great to know how to repair them... And the most interesting, it seems Sony knows nothing about it how to repair these... By the way, as mentioned, the consoles are not killed totaly, but have some kind of "malfunctions", those work great as PS One, anyway, hehe... Keep us informed, if you have any idea what to check...