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Magic 3 wont Boot Backups
Magic 3 wont Boot Backups –
Hi, I have been lurking here for some time trying to get as much information as i possibly could before i bothered anybody with my questions.
I have a brand new PS2 V7, fresh out of the box, with a Magic 3 installed professionally by an installer in my area. While at his location we tested to make sure it worked with backups... which it did. I brought it home and hooked everything up. Originals play with no problem. I made my first backup (of an original CD game I own) and burned it, following step by step tutorials i've found.
I cannot get the backups to boot regardless of what program i use. I have used CDRWIN, Nero, and Fireburner. I continuously make coasters and get the red screen. In Nero, i select File > Burn Image > select my cue file, write, finalize, 2x. it says mode2/xa. The burn completes successfully, but will not boot. In CDRWIN, i used the extract option and selected to build and record iso9660 image reading raw using mode2/xa, finalize, etc. the burn is successful but still red screens.
Just for testing, i downloaded a game from the ng's and tried burning the bin/cue using both nero and cdrwin (speed 1x). same problem. I've also tried using a bin2iso converter with no help there. I checked Goldenhawks compatability list and both of my burners are listed as being compatable. I have also followed the tutorial "burning ps2 for dummies" from megagames.com as well as many others.
I am at a total loss. I watched the installer do the job and i know he did a good job, not to mention the successful tests we did at his location, including DVD-R and CD-R. Also, if i press and hold the reset till the blue light comes on, the original playstation logo shows up, which indicates to me that the chip is functioning. Also has no problems playing DVD's. Also, if i browse the CD-R in my computer i see the file list and compare it to the original they are the same. I also checked to make sure both my burners have the most up to date firmware. In case anyone wants to know i have a Toshiba SD-R2002 CDRW/DVD and a LG Electronics CED-8080b CD-R/RW. I am using current versions of all software. Please help.
thanks to anyone who can help me... i have enough coasters to fill everyones christmas stockings. hehe.
Edit: I couldn't just leave it at that
u said u dled a game from an ng. Did you try different games or just one game? If it was just one game. Could just be a bad image(which is not uncommon). If you wanna be sure. Use an original game as u'r source media.
Hope it helps,
are u trying ps2 backups? and what mode are u putting your ps2 in?
when in standby just tapping reset once puts it in ps2 mode, and holding reset till the eject light turns blue puts in in ps1/movie mode..
i use primo dvd 2.0 and it works great for cdr and dvdr backups.. should be using good media also, cheaper media tends to cause problems
yeah, i've tried backing up multiple original games, not just one. and as far as i can tell i am setting the chip in the right mode. single tap from standby. i also checked to make sure it would switch into ps1/movie mode by holding in reset until blue light comes on. it plays dvd movies with no problem. i've also used different media, including tdk, maxell, and even office depot brand all with the same results. i've even gone so far as to try recording in different ways. with nero i've tried just loading the bin instead of the cue file and manually telling it mode2/xa, etc. the write is always successful with no errors but never boots the media. what is making me knock my head against the wall is that we tested it for everything at the installers location. dvd-r, cd-r, ps2 backup, ps1 backup, dvd, imports, etc. either i am doing something wrong with my copy and burn procedure or something must have happened in the car ride from the installers location back to mine. its hard for me to believe that because i brought it to him in the box and took it back in the box. and it still plays all the originals with no problem. as for downloading from the ng's, i did download another game to test with but i got the same results.
I am having the exact same problem with my Magic 2 on my V4. It boots up all my psx and ps2 dvd-r games but about 90% of my ps2 cd-r games won't boot. I also have tried many programs with different settings with no luck at all. My next plan is to try a different type of media. If you find out anymore info on the problem let us know.
I think a wire must have come loose. I would definitely look into that possibility. Bring it back to the installer and have him test it again with the same backups that you tested it with before.
Usually the burn method, software, and hardware is not that big of a deal. Yes you should be burning it correctly, but if you've tried that many burns, burn methods, and media brands then something should work.
It sounds like your v7 is not authenticating your backups, which makes me think the chip is not functioning.
thanks for the replies... im starting to believe the same thing fogbank... i figured the burn process wasnt that complicated and that possibly a wire came undone, but im not taking it apart... hahaa.. i am going back to the installers tonight so he can take a look. he is a great upstanding guy and he was the first to say, just bring it back. i'll let you all know how it turns out in case anyone has similar problems in the future. i've waited this long, whats another day. also, im really looking forward to bringing some of my "coasters" to him to see if they will play in his station... at least that will settle my mind that im making the backups properly. i dont know if this makes any difference, but when i try to boot the backups, it forwards to the browse, version screen and then fades into the red screen. also, if i hold down reset until the blue light comes on, the original playstation logo pops up with a white bar underneath it. i dont have any regular playstation media to test with, but i did notice that the white bar wasnt solid, but more broken up like it was "frozen" though it wasnt. and yes, before anyone accuses me of doing an ID10T error, i did switch off the unit and turn it back on to switch out of PS1 mode. thanks again everyone.
i was having the same problem.until i found out i was using a couple of coasters.in addition i burned harry potter which is cd format using clonecd.the media is cd-r verbatim burned 1x.It worked first time,power up and a tap from standby.hope this helps.
Ok, I took the ps2 back to the installer. It boots all his backups just fine. I tried my backups in his PS2 and they did not work. none of them. we went over the burn process and i am doing it right. so im assuming that neither of my two burners works for this process? what i found strange was that he took one of my "coasters" and made a copy of it in nero and burned it using his recorder and it works. copy from a copy? I dont understand why neither of my burners will allow me to play the disks that i create and i dont how a non working copy can produce a working copy. thats the latest. if anyone has any ideas they are greatly appreciated. i also tried making a copy of a copy on both my burners with no success. again i have a Toshiba SD-R2002 CDRW/DVD and a LG Electronics CED-8080b CD-R/RW. both of these drives are listed compatable for CDRWIN on Goldhawks site. I cant really afford to buy yet another CDRecordable drive, saving up for the dvd-r drive, especially if it could be something else. anyone have any experience with either of these drives?
The only reason I think for that behaviour is that your burner's lasers are weak. Do you use them a lot?
If a laser is weak, it cannot make the "holes" deep enough, so a simple CD reader cannot detect them (reflection problem). But, since a CDR(W) drive has a stronger laser than a reader, such CD's could be read by those units, so they can produce a working copy even with a low-quality-burned source.
I would try one more time with the latest CloneCD, but if that doesn't work, maybe you cannot make your own backups
Greets & Good Luck!