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02-06-2005,11:41 AM
I dont knwo anything about the laws in canada but there is a new law which will make modchips illegal in sweden. the stores which sell and install modchips solves this by only installing empty flashable modchips like dms4 or the o2.
Also, this is my first post here ^_^
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02-06-2005,01:06 PM
Well there was a couple just outside of my home town selling copied XBox games on the internet for $7 a piece and just got raided a few weeks ago and charged. They were doing it off a website for people all over the world. Now even guys who were doing modchips (and only modchips) for 5+ years have stopped and closed up shop so I think the heat is on around my area for the moment. Whether or not it's illegial, they seem to be coming down on the shops around here doing it so I'm out.
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02-06-2005,02:45 PM
cb1021, I sell satellite TV, and I do it legally (no DirecTV, etc -- the DirecTVers drive me NUTS though, calling four or five times a day to ask -- same with Roger's Cable TV [heh, now you know why rates are so high]). I wondered myself how these guys get away with it until I decided to try my hand at spending weekeds in a flea market (BTW: This isn't anywhere near as profitable as you might hope -- people at flea markets are too dumb to figure out that $80 is the price of a game -- they won't get a modchip because it's too "expensive" even at that price installed -- HELLO! One backup and you're there!).
I talked to a DirecTV dealer in that flea market. He says he sets aside money to pay fines, like it's just a tax on his business. He explained he makes like $20k a week (and from the amount of receivers, etc I saw flying from his shelves, I believe it). Fines run between $4k - $20k, and it takes like 6 months to see a judge.
So work it out... 
Not that I would encourage anyone to break the law, but wow, these guys have it wrapped up. LOL.
The only problem is if you are raided, but are operating legally, the police keep your stuff for YEARS. So if you're a modchip store, don't keep 10's of thousands of dollars of stuff about. Sure, you will get to laugh at the police in front of a judge, TWO OR THREE YEARS FROM NOW, and then you get to wait months to get your stuff back.
I've been to EB games and asked for refurb consoles in 10+ batches, only certain versions (told them how to check). When I said it was for modding they bawled "BUT THAT'S ILLEGAL!". Once a couple of customers left the store the guy went in the back and found me exactly the consoles I wanted. Money talks, BS walks. I left my business card and I've had customers who were referred to me from there.
Same thing from BestBuy, etc. If what I were doing were illegal, I wouldn't be here typing right now. But, of course, you should discuss this with a real lawyer instead of a low-life like me. :P
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02-06-2005,02:53 PM
Was thinking of starting a webshop. Problem is, no one can tell me if it's ilegal to mod a ps2/xbox and/or sell modchips in the Netherlands. I now there are more company's here that mod console's.
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