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  1. #1 Bad chip...did i fry it? or is it a bad burn? 
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    I chipped my PS2 with a CC2.0 SLE yesterday, and I tried to flash it...here's what I get. The hacked version boots( off this site ) gives me a black screen, and then returns me to the browser which shows the disc in a b****h color with playstation 2 disc when the browser is set on top of it. I really need help, and when I insert a original PS2 game in, it won't boot either, I don't think it's supposed to before it's flashed, right?

    -CC2.0SLE
    -V4 NTSC USA PS2
    -Install looks clean, all points checked
    -Sony CD-R's
    -Burned at 4X
    -Tried 2 Sony CD-R's with the same result
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    Maybe you're burning too slow, try to burn it at 16x. Burning too slow is like lying in the sun for to long, you'll get burned, and so does the disc when it's exposed to the laser too long.

    Else, recheck the CDVD patch wires, could be something wrong with them.

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    Everything works fine with the power cut to the chip, do you think it's the media, I'll try burning at 16X later Jones, thanks...hopefully, it'll work...do you think it's a media problem?, the CD burns in under...1:25 seconds...
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    "Burning too slow is like lying in the sun for to long"
    I don't think so - because Audio CD burners work on 1x speed and burn wave stream in real time. Maybe that's bad installation or bad (fake) CD-R media. May be using Verbatim media will solve problem. It can be checked easily - just burn Audio CD contents on CD-R and play. If it works fine - bad or wrong soldering may occure. If it doesn't - bad or dead optical pick-up.
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    Maybe you're burning too slow, try to burn it at 16x. Burning too slow is like lying in the sun for to long, you'll get burned, and so does the disc when it's exposed to the laser too long.
    My own experience burning CDs (which dates back to when Windows 95 was first released) is that discs burned at higher speeds are not as easy to read as discs burned at lower speeds. This holds true whether I am burning an audio CD for my old Ford truck that rides very rough (faster burn speeds=skipping audio) or an auto installer for one of my modded Xboxes (faster burn speeds usually do not boot). I have also found that discs burned at lower speeds are easier for drives to read that were never intended to read burned discs to begin with (ie early PS2s).

    Keep in mind that all a CD burner is doing is changing the color of dye on the disc. The slower the disc spins by during the burning process, the longer the laser has to do a complete and darker "burn". I have had countless occasions over the years where brands of cheaper media would produce nothing but coasters when burned at their rated speeds but will produce perfectly readable discs when burned at lower speeds.

    I realize that a lot of folks never need to adjust their writers burn speeds, but remember that we are doing things that Sony never made allowances for, so sometimes we have to modify what would be a standard procedure to get these non-standard results.

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    I've re-soldered on the A, B, H, and I points, and I still get the same result...do you think the HA point would have anything to do with this? My chip still won't flash =(
    The Bios test shows up fine, the LED lights up for a fraction of a second, and then turns off..any help would be appreciated!
    Thanks
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    power on press reset 3 times( about a a 1/2 second in between gaps between resets its a lil picky on timing not too bad though) to boot in recovery mode with no disc in. You will know when you've done the timing right cause youll get the ps2 browser screen instead of a black one. Then put your firmware cd in when its booted assuming its r34 here format the dffs and erase the firmware.Then install everything freshley hope this helps.
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    I resoldered the ha wire, but no power to the chip (3v3 isn't soldered on), and my PS2 won't boot games or read cd's...it makes a weird sound, the laser reads the cd, but games won't boot or anything...need help! I don't think it's a firmware issue though...the chip was never flashed since the disk booted and then gave me a blank screen, flashed(the screen), and then returned me to the browser with a blue disk saying Playstation 2 Disc
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    Hiya mate,

    For debug reason to see if its the chip or firmware I would try the reset 3 times . I know when I got my chip I had the same problem as you did. Its was because the bm version I had wasn't right for the firmware I upgraded too.

    Here is some things some people don't realise the chip actually stores 2 firmwares one you cant overwrite (the reset 3 times fail-safe one) this one wont boot any ps2 games it will however enable you to load the firmware upgrade disk the ps2 will appear to boot as normal in this mode no bm screen but the chip is actually active to boot the firmware disc.

    By default the chip loads the userspace firmware(the one you can flash) that's why we need reset 3 times. (to disable the chip you need to reset 6 times no need to de solder it for testing)

    The fact you got that screen and the disc changed color and tells me you install was ok and its eitehr a bad chip or firmware issue its usually the latter.


    Basically if the safe mode works all you have to do to test the hacked firmware is remove the bm (format it from the firmware boot disk menus and erase the flash that's on teh chips user space right now).

    Install the firmware(hacked to boot ps2 games) from the cd only. Then press reset when done this will only boot the chip in minimal mode (dont worry this does boot ps2 games) If all works well install the bm. Mixing a bad bm with the wrong firmware will cause a black screen.

    As far as the media issues go I would burn an audio cd if i was you and see if it plays ok. If the music goes plays the media is fine.

    I hope the chips kicks into life for you mate and you get some luck with it. There are issues with the black screen.


    this is from the upgrade text in the firmware r34

    IMPORTANT:

    If you experience a black screen when booting the upgrade disc, please us Recovery Mode to boot the disc.

    For information on using Recovery Mode, please see the Hardware Modes information section at http://crystal-chips.com/main/content/view/18/36/

    Steps for upgrading to BM 2.0 from BM 1.x

    1. Build and burn an upgrade disc.
    2. Boot the disc on the PS2.
    3. Choose "Memory Card Manager", then "Remove mc0:/BOOT" to remove all old BM files and applications.
    4. Return to the main menu and choose Upgrade Firmware.
    5. Choose "Install BootManager" and select the Memory Card or CC Flash you wish to install it to.
    6. When it's finished installing, reset the PS2.


    I had issues with it as is written like i said I had to format the dffs and erase my firmware and re flash the firmware then all was to go for me. I hope you have some luck fixing all this.

    ps2 dont test with moves R34 has issues playing them it is something that needs fixed. The movies will play if you eject the disk after the read error and press play after the error if you have to watch a movie
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    Granster has some good advice. A lot of us have had similar issues and it usually just takes a step by step process to resolve things.

    As he said make SURE you boot it into minimal mode (reset three times) before you try to flash. I have had several occasions where I forgot to go into minimal mode and wound up with a black screen.

    Sometimes I have to boot with a BM upgrade disc and tell it to format the chip's memory before I can get a successful flash.

    I guess the simplest test as to whether your install is functioning properly is to boot the console in minimal mode and see if you can boot the firmware disc. If you can, I would bet that your install is fine and the rest of the job is just proper configuration.
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