USBUtil by ISEKO

[sinetic]

you dont need bugs fixed on usbutil, it f*ckin rocks!, you do need a disk defragmenter app!
with all that create/delete of games the files on the hd get all fragmented and thats not the way they will play, in fact they may play but it will get you stucked at some part ....
after delete/create -> defrag!

it may seem that everything is ok when you explore the game created on your hd/pen from your pc, but it could be all messed up

[alifbunda]

excuse me if being rude, and for my bad english. defrgament the files/hdd doesn't always work. even sometimes it works. usbutill is a rock application, i agree with that. but nothing on earth perfect. that's why i believe, all this "conversations" are goaling better things.
i've used usbutill full, and i'm still using it. i'm just a common user, not a programmer. i have three 250gb external drive, and one terabyte hd. i've tested more than 200 games on usbloader, which in result for now are 198 games do work on usbloader. each time i tested a game, and it's work, i copied it to my 1terabyte hd. testting, and testing again untill i'v reached 198 games.
but some problems appear. everytime i try to copy lots of games (more than 10) to my external hd, not all can be played. some of them will freeze on colors. some will work just fine. i don't understand, those game i've tested, are trully works. but why after i copied to 1tera hd, then copied to external hd, some of games won't work? defragmenting help me a lot. but not always work for me. i hope, open ps2 loader 0.7 and usb utill 2.1 will soon be arrive, so i can thank to god for this awesome pople that works so hard so we can sit and play our favourite games in an easy way. thanks, guys !! you all the best!!

[JNABK]

excuse me if being rude, and for my bad english. defrgament the files/hdd doesn't always work. even sometimes it works.

USB HDD defragmenting ALWAYS works to ensure the game files are read properly by OPL. Network (SMB) games dont need defragmenting, so theres no issues there.
I think your mistaking it as a way to "fix" incompatible games, it is not used for that purpose. If you have fragmented game files, that game definitely WONT work whether its listed as compatible or not.

i've tested more than 200 games on usbloader, which in result for now are 198 games do work on usbloader. each time i tested a game, and it's work, i copied it to my 1terabyte hd. testting, and testing again untill i'v reached 198 games.
but some problems appear. everytime i try to copy lots of games (more than 10) to my external hd, not all can be played. some of them will freeze on colors. some will work just fine. i don't understand, those game i've tested, are trully works. but why after i copied to 1tera hd, then copied to external hd, some of games won't work? defragmenting help me a lot.

One problem many people over look is that a lot of games that work in USB Advance required some type of patch or editing/rebuilding done to them. OPL is designed to use pure CLEAN rips of your games from YOUR game discs, using a good rip program such as IMGBurn to ensure a clean rip is made. Of course you could use USBUtil 2.0 to also rip a game from disc to USB HDD, but that is not always a garauntee since we discovered some bugs in the program.

Downloaded games, edited games or patched games most likely will not work, so there is nothing we can do for those games, except tell people to re-rip a FRESH ISO and re-install the game, then defragment the files.

And of course there are still games not compatible in 0.6, so waiting for 0.7 is the best option.

[alifbunda]

USB HDD defragmenting ALWAYS works to ensure the game files are read properly by OPL. Network (SMB) games dont need defragmenting, so theres no issues there.

some notice first for you master JNABK.
1. i live in indonesia, which means i do have a bad english. some of my words could be missdirection.
2. i'm a beginner. yes, i've joined this forum almost a year, but i believe this is my second post. why? because i'm too affraid to ask to all you guys. why? because i know there's some kind of rules that saying " before you asked some dumb question, you should search it first". searching is somekind of easyjob. but reading the search results, makes me dizzy. it's hard to understand all you guys have posted, with my right hand holding the mouse, while my left hand holding the english dictionary. but still, i don't want to bother you with all my (dumb) questions in my head, so i keep searching and reading as much as i can stand.
3. many post from you, dlanor, bootlegninja, iseko, and others, are giving me great help. and if i'm not mistaken, i've downloaded the powerdefragment gui from you're post. and your ps2loader theme. thanks for that.

now, about defragment. this is the chronology:
1. i want to install a game from dvd to my 250gb external hd that allready filled with lots of games. i deleted one of the game. then, without defragmenting it first, i install that new game from ISO (which i created with alcohol 52%). then, i tried it. on some experiments, sometimes it works, some times it freeze.
2. when the game freeze, i delete that game. then defragment the hdd, then install from ISO again. then i tried again. sometimes it works, sometimes it still freeze.
3. when the game still freeze, i deleted the game again, then defragment the hdd, install the game from ISO, then defragment it again. then, i tried again. sometimes it works, sometimes it still freeze.
4. and when it still freeze, that's the time i have my own (dumb) conclussion. that the defragment things, works just fine. maybe the problems comes from the usbutill ( i'm not judging the creator. forgive me).

if you, could give me a simple explanation for this thing?
perhaps you can explain it in indonesian... (just kidding)

[JNABK]

What game is it that is giving you problems, maybe it just doesnt work with 0.6

You said you made your ISO with alcohol 52%, maybe try using IMGBurn to make the ISO. Sometimes a different ripping program makes a difference on if its ripping the game properly, as some games have hidden content that your rip app might not be extracting properly.

You can also try using another game installer app to install that game and see it works any better.

http://home.comcast.net/~jnabk2/openps2/installing.html

[leonidas]

USB HDD defragmenting ALWAYS works to ensure the game files are read properly by OPL. Network (SMB) games dont need defragmenting, so theres no issues there.

some notice first for you master JNABK.
1. i live in indonesia, which means i do have a bad english. some of my words could be missdirection.
2. i'm a beginner. yes, i've joined this forum almost a year, but i believe this is my second post. why? because i'm too affraid to ask to all you guys. why? because i know there's some kind of rules that saying " before you asked some dumb question, you should search it first". searching is somekind of easyjob. but reading the search results, makes me dizzy. it's hard to understand all you guys have posted, with my right hand holding the mouse, while my left hand holding the english dictionary. but still, i don't want to bother you with all my (dumb) questions in my head, so i keep searching and reading as much as i can stand.
3. many post from you, dlanor, bootlegninja, iseko, and others, are giving me great help. and if i'm not mistaken, i've downloaded the powerdefragment gui from you're post. and your ps2loader theme. thanks for that.

now, about defragment. this is the chronology:
1. i want to install a game from dvd to my 250gb external hd that allready filled with lots of games. i deleted one of the game. then, without defragmenting it first, i install that new game from ISO (which i created with alcohol 52%). then, i tried it. on some experiments, sometimes it works, some times it freeze.
2. when the game freeze, i delete that game. then defragment the hdd, then install from ISO again. then i tried again. sometimes it works, sometimes it still freeze.
3. when the game still freeze, i deleted the game again, then defragment the hdd, install the game from ISO, then defragment it again. then, i tried again. sometimes it works, sometimes it still freeze.
4. and when it still freeze, that's the time i have my own (dumb) conclussion. that the defragment things, works just fine. maybe the problems comes from the usbutill ( i'm not judging the creator. forgive me).

if you, could give me a simple explanation for this thing?
perhaps you can explain it in indonesian... (just kidding)

Hi alifbunda,
Instead of defragmenting your whole harddrive each time, you should use powerdefragmenter to defragment the individual game files that are made with usbutil. It takes a little more time and a little more patience but you will probably get better results than with deframenting the whole HDD.
at least I got better results.
Hope that helps and good luck.

[dlanor]

Like JNABK said, try using either "DVD Decrypter" or ImgBurn to do the ripping to ISO format, since these are the two programs best at doing this for PS2 games. In fact they are different versions of the same project, but when "DVD Decrypter" was changed into ImgBurn some of its abilities were also lost in the process... I can't specify these in detail myself, but it is a fact that "DVD Decrypter" often succeeds better than all other programs with similar purpose.

Personally I prefer using "DVD Decrypter" for ripping ISOs, and use ImgBurn primarily to burn backups.

As for Alcohol (both 52% and 120%) I consider it fit only for CD work, where it really is quite excellent. But for DVD work it is not suitable at all.


As for defragmenting problems, nearly all defragmenters can give up without having achieved full defragmentation. Typically they will do this when very large files remain fragmented while very little space remains on the drive. You need to pay attention to what the program (whichever it is) reports at the end of its defragmentation attempt. If any fragmented files still remain those most probably represent games that will crash when run by OPL.

Since the USBUtil installation method splits files into maximum segments of 1 GB, this means that you will need at least 1GB of free space on the drive in order to achieve defragmentation with most such software.

NB: Theoretically it is possible to perform a full defrag even when only a single byte is available to buffer data, but it is then a highly complex operation. No available software implements this kind of defrag, and most require at least free space matching the size of the largest file that needs defrag.

Some software goes even further and requires that the free space block itself must already be free of fragmentation (like the Windows defragger). With this last requirement the defragger often sabotages its own work, as it will frequently fragmentize the free space block as a result of defragmenting the first few files, so that the largest unfragmented free block is then too small for continued defrag work...

The crucial moral of this story is that you can NEVER rely on the built-in defrag tools of a Windows OS to do a decent job. Because they are of the worst kind described above, that tend to give up at the slightest hint of defrag complexity.

For many cases of well-filled drives the best procedure is to not attempt a formal defrag at all, but instead simply copy all the content to some other storage, and then reformat the USB drive and copy the files back again. This should of course be done by normal file copying, and not by any disk image restore, as the latter would just restore the original fragmentation as well. But normal Windows Explorer file copying will normally copy each file sequentially before proceeding to the next one, which ensures an unfragmented result when done to a clean freshly formatted destination drive.

Best regards: dlanor

[alifbunda]

thanks, guys. means a lot to me. i'll try it once again.

[eustolio]

USBUtil 2.1 Ultimate

New version USBUtil 2.1 available (Spanish)
Soon in English.

[JNABK]

Very good! I hope the English one comes soon, as many of us here now "depend" on this wonderful program, please tell iseko we appreciate his hard work and thank him for us.