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  • Video - fail0verflow Demos PS3 Exploit at CCC

      
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    Published on 12-30-2010 05:52 AM
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    Today, in the wee hours of the morning, marcan, one of the principle members of fail0verflow, demoed his teams new PS3 exploit. The demo took place at the CCC (Chaos Communication Congress), during today's lightening talks. Lightening talks, are very brief presentations and only last a few minutes. Marcan showcased what we've all been dying to see for ourselves, fail0verflow's exploit. During this lightening talk, the main focus, was Marcan booting up a PS3 Slim straight into a Linux Kernel. He achieved this by using the main exploit from yesterdays presentation. Below is the full video of the short demonstration.

    Update: The team has also released the slides, that they used in yesterdays presentation.

    Update via Twitter:
    yes, we'll release all our tools as soon as we cleaned them up in january or so.
    Download Presentation Slides: 1780_27c3_console_hacking_2010.rar (1.43 MB)


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    Comments 16 Comments
    1. KaMi SaMa's Avatar
      KaMi SaMa - 12-30-2010, 07:18 AM
      "that's just an epic fail from $ony" ... lol, that was Epic =D
      hopefully with time we will be able the fruits of all this wicked stuff ...
    1. KriSiuN's Avatar
      KriSiuN - 12-30-2010, 07:42 AM
      mkv support
      ntfs support
      emu Dolphin
      Linux

      thanks guys! great work!
    1. grandy's Avatar
      grandy - 12-30-2010, 07:46 AM
      Also anyone interested in marcan's other lightening talk at CCC, here's his OpenLase demo which was right before the PS3 demo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEG68O6jpjo
    1. x3angel-PSG's Avatar
      x3angel-PSG - 12-30-2010, 08:12 AM
      Awesome!!! Good news!!! BTW it's about time PSGroove gets a Youtube channel!
    1. cawthorne's Avatar
      cawthorne - 12-30-2010, 08:13 AM
      Hey, do any of you think that, because this exploit, unlike otherOS, allows full access to the ps3's hardware and raw power, rather than just the limited capabilities otherOS left us before sony blocked it; we could get windows 7 running on a ps3 well? i saw it working using otherOS, but it was a bit slow. Now though if the graphics drivers were made a ps3 running win7 could be an extremely affordable high end gaming pc.

      Just a thought.
    1. grandy's Avatar
      grandy - 12-30-2010, 08:15 AM
      Quote Originally Posted by x3angel View Post
      Awesome!!! Good news!!! BTW it's about time PSGroove gets a Youtube channel!
      heh, we've had one since September (made it for the nulldc ps3 unveil video), just we never really used it since then.
    1. Daioz-PSG's Avatar
      Daioz-PSG - 12-30-2010, 08:49 AM
      Quote Originally Posted by cawthorne View Post
      Hey, do any of you think that, because this exploit, unlike otherOS, allows full access to the ps3's hardware and raw power, rather than just the limited capabilities otherOS left us before sony blocked it; we could get windows 7 running on a ps3 well? i saw it working using otherOS, but it was a bit slow. Now though if the graphics drivers were made a ps3 running win7 could be an extremely affordable high end gaming pc.

      Just a thought.

      Even with the absolute full power of the ps3, running win 7 would make the ps3 a subpar underpowered PC not capable of running the PC versions of the games that it does run now.
    1. cajuil's Avatar
      cajuil - 12-30-2010, 09:11 AM
      Can't wait to put JTR to good use on the PS3. Let the PS3 crack itself? LOL
      It has a nice CPU power, but I wonder if you could use gpu itself to help on the cracking as well.. That'd be interesting + helpful.

      Keep up the good work MARCAN! s3:

      KUDOS
    1. Stalin-chan-PSG's Avatar
      Stalin-chan-PSG - 12-30-2010, 10:14 AM
      Quote Originally Posted by cawthorne View Post
      Hey, do any of you think that, because this exploit, unlike otherOS, allows full access to the ps3's hardware and raw power, rather than just the limited capabilities otherOS left us before sony blocked it; we could get windows 7 running on a ps3 well? i saw it working using otherOS, but it was a bit slow. Now though if the graphics drivers were made a ps3 running win7 could be an extremely affordable high end gaming pc.

      Just a thought.
      Why would you want to run Windows???
    1. darkcirc's Avatar
      darkcirc - 12-30-2010, 10:22 AM
      Quote Originally Posted by Daioz View Post
      Even with the absolute full power of the ps3, running win 7 would make the ps3 a subpar underpowered PC not capable of running the PC versions of the games that it does run now.
      The ppc based cell proc in the ps3 is plenty powerful. Might even have enough ram.

      The trouble is that it's of PPC derivation, win7 runs on x86/x86-64(and maybe itanic?), they are different CPU architectures(RISC vs CISC) and I wouldn't expect MS to spend the time porting Windows for hobbyists.
    1. Crime45's Avatar
      Crime45 - 12-30-2010, 10:26 AM
      Quote Originally Posted by cawthorne View Post
      Hey, do any of you think that, because this exploit, unlike otherOS, allows full access to the ps3's hardware and raw power, rather than just the limited capabilities otherOS left us before sony blocked it; we could get windows 7 running on a ps3 well? i saw it working using otherOS, but it was a bit slow. Now though if the graphics drivers were made a ps3 running win7 could be an extremely affordable high end gaming pc.

      Just a thought.
      PowerPC + Windows? Ha lol.
      And high-end gaming pc? I don't think so.
      The graphics (Nvidia RSX) is based on a GeForce 7xxx (which is today too slow for gaming), no AA and only 256MB GDDR3 RAM? NO WAY
      The 256MB system memory, which are maybe very very fast b/c of the XDR-DRAM, are definetly too less for gaming on Windows.
    1. SwordOfWar-PSG's Avatar
      SwordOfWar-PSG - 12-30-2010, 01:31 PM
      The best you are going to get is emulators for game systems and linux. Be happy with that.

      For many reasons, Windows 7 (or really any windows version) will never work on the PS3 correctly or at a desirable performance level.

      A PS3 today costs 300 dollars. You can buy a 300 dollar computer to run windows on it much better than it would run on a PS3.

      The PS3 is simply not made for Windows.
    1. Blunts-LLA-PSG's Avatar
      Blunts-LLA-PSG - 12-30-2010, 02:01 PM
      Thank You grandy for the great uploaded Videos !!! PSGroove.com #1:joystick1:s3up:
    1. NulVoid's Avatar
      NulVoid - 12-30-2010, 03:22 PM
      those failOverflow guy are awesome, Its good for somebody to actually talk about hacking rather than a readme file. I can't wait for the release. Good Work guys
    1. Daioz-PSG's Avatar
      Daioz-PSG - 12-30-2010, 06:51 PM
      Quote Originally Posted by darkcirc View Post
      The ppc based cell proc in the ps3 is plenty powerful. Might even have enough ram.

      The trouble is that it's of PPC derivation, win7 runs on x86/x86-64(and maybe itanic?), they are different CPU architectures(RISC vs CISC) and I wouldn't expect MS to spend the time porting Windows for hobbyists.
      You are clueless, the PS3's (or the 360s aswell) hardware when compared to PCs is extremely outdated, the only reason it is able to run the same games as the PC (in much worse quality) is because THE GAME is specifically designed to it.
      If you are running windows on this hardware, you are running games that are made for the extremely diverse hardware PC users can have, which require far more powerful components in exchange to be able to work on so many kinds.
      All this, not to mention that win 7 alone would eat up all the memory the ps3 can give.
    1. Stalin-chan-PSG's Avatar
      Stalin-chan-PSG - 12-30-2010, 08:58 PM
      Quote Originally Posted by Daioz View Post
      You are clueless, the PS3's (or the 360s aswell) hardware when compared to PCs is extremely outdated, the only reason it is able to run the same games as the PC (in much worse quality) is because THE GAME is specifically designed to it.
      If you are running windows on this hardware, you are running games that are made for the extremely diverse hardware PC users can have, which require far more powerful components in exchange to be able to work on so many kinds.
      All this, not to mention that win 7 alone would eat up all the memory the ps3 can give.
      Technically neither of you are wrong, the PS3 is too slow to run PC games and windows is compiled to run on x86 machines not PPC. So stop bitching.