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  • UPDATE - PS3 Decr Project - Interview with adrianc

    UPDATE: adrianc tweeted today that he has received a cease and desist order. The project site has been removed, as well as his twitter account. This project had already raised more than half of the donations they were seeking. I have tried to contact adrianc for further comment, but as his last tweet stated, he will be laying low for awhile. We will keep you updated as more information becomes available ...

    got a cease and desist, going off the radar for a bit. la resistance will live on
    I have recently had the privilege to conversate with developer adrianc, well known for finding the 3.56 keys, and conduct an interview detailing his current project, the PS3 DECR Project. adrianc and a few other devs, came up with the idea of pooling money for a collective scene DECR console for better debugging of applications and as well as taking advantage of the lesser security on the device for possible exploits. The important message is just how beneficial this is to the scene at large, and that if everyone contributed a small amount we can make this a reality very quickly.


    About PS3 Decr Project
    Hey, I'm adrianc, you may know me from around the ps3 scene for my work on various projects, for example finding and releasing the 3.56 keys. I'd like to encourage you to donate whatever you can to this project, as it could be a catalyst for great things in the scene.

    First and foremost, the DECR-1000a is a device that is essential to any quality homebrew being produced. Without it, homebrew devs cannot profile their applications in real time, something that will cripple most intensive applications such as gamecube or ps2 emulation, preventing them from ever being viable.

    Secondly the DECR-1000a could open up the possibility of dumping the 3.60+ keys as it has a different hardware setup which could make it easier to dump the ram. In addition to this, the Syscon, which remains the last unhacked CPU remaining inside the PS3 could be exploited on the 1000a system, as it has a prototype syscon with a completely different update process.

    Third and finally, the DECR-1000a motherboard remains somewhat of a mystery, with only some very old pictures that are available. It would be an incredible asset to the ps3 developer wiki if we could get more information as well as pictures of this enigmatic device.

    If you still believe in the ps3 scene, I urge you to donate whatever you can to this project, in order to secure a bright future for devs and end users alike.


    Interview with adrianc

    1- Once you get your hands on a DECR-1000a, do you personally have plans to bring PS2 and GameCube emulation to the 'scene'?

    I don't personally intend to oversee these projects, but I have spoken with other devs who expressed interest in this type of advanced emulation, and each time I was told that they couldn't possibly do it without the advanced profiling features available on a DECR-1000a console. One dev in particular said that without being able to see the bottlenecks in the code, the PS3 powerpc performs worse than a Nintendo Wii. :P When I do get my hands on a Decr-1000a, I intend to give these devs remote access so they can debug their code whenever they feel like it.

    1a- With dev access to remote debugging, what other interesting things might we possibly see in the future, with the DECR-1000a console?

    Besides emulation, this leaves the door open to seeing some triple A homebrew designed specifically for the platform, as well as ports of open source games, such as Lugaru for example. I can't imagine absolutely every scenario, but the bottom line is that having a DECR-1000a removes all obstacles to programming for the PS3.


    2- What can we do with the 3.60+ keys?

    3.60+ keys will have a great effect on both devs and end users alike. Anyone will be able to decrypt and resign 3.60+ selfs as 3.55, such as Portal 2 for playing on 3.55 consoles. As well, devs will be able to decrypt and examine the 3.60+ firmware for any possible exploits, and open the door to future softmods.


    3- What would hacking the syscon provide for the community?

    Hacking the syscon could possibly allow 2 wire nand/nor access and provide control over the hardware via UART. As well, it will provide some insight into the device's update process, and possibly allow the installation of hacked syscon firmwares. The sky is truly the limit with regards to syscon hacking, yet most people are not aware of this.


    4- What other exploits might you be able to explore with this new console?

    RAM dumping, lv1 debugging, and BD-emu to name a few. We won't truly know everything though, until we actually have our hands on the console. DECR consoles may also have different metldr/bootldr versions because of their early design and manufacture.

    4a- What types of things might we see with exploring these areas, such as BD-emu?

    The DECR-1000a has support for internal BD-emu so exploring how it does this might allow us to replicate such functionality on retail consoles.

    4b- Also, what can one hope to find exploring RAM dumping, and lv1 debugging?

    Ram dumping will allow competent devs to find the 3.60+ keys as a holdover until it bootldr is exploited. Lv1 debugging theoretically gives us the ability to examine 3.60+ lv1 as it runs perhaps allowing us to dump it and the keys.


    5- What are all the different ways we can support this project, the community, and the 'scene'?

    Well the fastest and most direct way you can support this project is by making a donation. Other than that, you can support by voting for my LSPWN app here on psx scene(http://psx-scene.com/forums/content/...e-dumper-1344/) to help win $250 toward the project. Lastly, if you can't spare any money you can help by letting us know you like and support our efforts, this goes a long way towards boosting morale sometimes, you might be surprised!

    Mission Statement
    We are a group of ps3 scene devs who wish to pool our money to purchase a DECR-1000a for community debugging and exploring possible exploits. Any and all donations are appreciated.
    Twitter: adriancps3

    Project Site: ps3decr.blogspot.com

    Contribute to the Project: PS3 DECR Project
    Comments 79 Comments
    1. bitsbubba's Avatar
      bitsbubba -
      true as that's the way it reads until
      @adrianc ill take the heat for it then
      xxxx what does that even mean... an offer you couldn't refuse
      xxxx this isn't the freaking mafia
      xxxx lol
      @adrianc i shouldnt have expected you to understand and i'm sorry for trying
      xxxx to me in all honesty this sounds like a scam ... just not sure which of you is the con
      no to disagree with xiaNaix but I'm still siding with GaryOPA
    1. itzViolence's Avatar
      itzViolence -
      wow, this sucks

      I'd expect a "fight" like Sony vs GeoHot or Graf
      because he didn't do something illegal
      afaik owning such a weirdass thing isn't illegal
      he doesn't even own it yet, the only thing he did was asking for donations and telling us the capabilities, and that's not illegal either

      so Math already got that keys, did he got a c&d? no? he hasn't shared them like GeoHot did, because it would be "illegal" if you believe Sony

      so why is Adrian getting in trouble?
    1. oblistar's Avatar
      oblistar -
      IBN 5100... SERN...
    1. tthousand's Avatar
      tthousand -
      No one ever said it was Sony who told him to cease and desist.
    1. xiaNaix's Avatar
      xiaNaix -
      Quote Originally Posted by bitsbubba View Post
      true as that's the way it reads until no to disagree with xiaNaix but I'm still siding with GaryOPA
      GaryOPA should have known better, especially in this case, since he COMPLETELY misinterpreted what was going on. Nothing good has ever come from copying/pasting IRC chat logs. You can't blame him for being clueless but posting a headline that calls a well-known and respected developer a "fake" and a "scam artist" is simply reprehensible. Haven't enough scene devs been driven away already?
    1. Tranced's Avatar
      Tranced -
      Oh the drama...
    1. damox's Avatar
      damox -
      Quote Originally Posted by xiaNaix View Post
      Wow. Do I really have to de-cloak over this? Those chat logs posted on PS3Crunch have been totally misread by people who have no idea how the scene really works. Not surprising, since there are so many of them out there running sites now or pretending to be bigshot devs on Twitter. Re-read that chat log. adrianc was hoping to use the C&D story as cover while he layed low for a while and worked on the hacks you've all been waiting for. Looks like the guy selling adrianc the equipment didn't like the idea of him being so publicly visible, for obvious reasons. That doesn't make him a FAKE or a SCAM-ARTIST, just a guy who doesn't want to end up in court or worse. The enemy crab has big eyes and long claws. It's neither dead nor sleeping. If you want to kill it, stop feeding it.
      QFT
    1. LKJHGFDSA's Avatar
      LKJHGFDSA -
      He's running off with the cash!

      I'm sorry, but "going off the radar for a bit" is too vague for my liking. I was really looking forward to the new discoveries and advancements.

      Edit: I read tthousand's comment about the PS3Crunch post.
      Yeah that seems reasonable then.
      That info should be put in the main post if it's already spread around.
    1. tthousand's Avatar
      tthousand -
      I doubt he is running off with the cash. It sounds like he still intends to buy the device, and work on his project. By getting off the radar, I assume he means stay out of the spotlight while he is working.

    1. damanptyltd's Avatar
      damanptyltd -
      :L Do you guys really think a bigshot Dev would seriously humiliate and doublecross the scene just for a couple grand? Hey, maybe a couple hundred thousand, but 1,800? Really guys? Obviously he has something big in the mix and is using his most powerful tool; the element of surprise/disguise.
    1. Warning's Avatar
      Warning -
      So he raised the money and now he is going to go do his thing. I am happy for him and don't think my donation went to wast. I'm just curious about what a gdev sale is.
    1. brakk3n's Avatar
      brakk3n -
      got a cease and desist, going off the radar for a bit. la resistance will live on
      So you got a little letter in the mail and tucked and run? Coward.
    1. Tranced's Avatar
      Tranced -
      If he is covering his tracks, doing this certainly does the job. (As everyone cries and calls him a traitor) He should get the equipment and if needed release anonymously. I personally don't think he would jeopardize his image in such a crude manner.
    1. Greg0u812's Avatar
      Greg0u812 -
      Quote Originally Posted by brakk3n View Post
      So you got a little letter in the mail and tucked and run? Coward.
      Really?
      Have you actually read the thread yet or did you just get that little piece of info and made an assumption?
    1. dafox's Avatar
      dafox -
      Adrianc , thanx for a good scene-member , the other Geeks , are so ****ing scared , if you read the Irc log.


      I meen , if you hade a car , and can tune the engine with a simple "hack" why the heck are you going the half way in the tuning. When you can get the max Speed , max acc. -Because the Police said so?

      If i could help , if i could Reverche engenering , I should get the keys for you. And then ? If sony come , i dont care , if a also spend 10 years in jail. Because i have made so many people happy. And if they are scared (the ps3 scene puppies). Why dont Realese projects and other "important" work at the scene ftps like che4va?
    1. krafty_pk's Avatar
      krafty_pk -
      Quote Originally Posted by tthousand View Post
      Thank you, that is how I was reading it. I could not have put it any better, only hope to be able to. Good to see you again here sir!

      exactly how i read it too.....
    1. Anony's Avatar
      Anony -
      this scene is like a soap opera. Ive said it once and ill say it again. Math,AdrianC and rms is what have destroyed this scene. If you ever want to donate to a dev do so to c4eva.
    1. DSAPSX's Avatar
      DSAPSX -
      Im interested to get the full story here. Hopefully there will be more details coming soon.
    1. bertr2112's Avatar
      bertr2112 -
      He ripped you guys off.
    1. runo's Avatar
      runo -
      donating = fail! nothing good has come out of it till this day, and never will. My 2cents!
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