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  • UPDATE - PS3 Decr Project - Interview with adrianc

    UPDATE: adrianc tweeted today that he has received a cease and desist order. The project site has been removed, as well as his twitter account. This project had already raised more than half of the donations they were seeking. I have tried to contact adrianc for further comment, but as his last tweet stated, he will be laying low for awhile. We will keep you updated as more information becomes available ...

    got a cease and desist, going off the radar for a bit. la resistance will live on
    I have recently had the privilege to conversate with developer adrianc, well known for finding the 3.56 keys, and conduct an interview detailing his current project, the PS3 DECR Project. adrianc and a few other devs, came up with the idea of pooling money for a collective scene DECR console for better debugging of applications and as well as taking advantage of the lesser security on the device for possible exploits. The important message is just how beneficial this is to the scene at large, and that if everyone contributed a small amount we can make this a reality very quickly.


    About PS3 Decr Project
    Hey, I'm adrianc, you may know me from around the ps3 scene for my work on various projects, for example finding and releasing the 3.56 keys. I'd like to encourage you to donate whatever you can to this project, as it could be a catalyst for great things in the scene.

    First and foremost, the DECR-1000a is a device that is essential to any quality homebrew being produced. Without it, homebrew devs cannot profile their applications in real time, something that will cripple most intensive applications such as gamecube or ps2 emulation, preventing them from ever being viable.

    Secondly the DECR-1000a could open up the possibility of dumping the 3.60+ keys as it has a different hardware setup which could make it easier to dump the ram. In addition to this, the Syscon, which remains the last unhacked CPU remaining inside the PS3 could be exploited on the 1000a system, as it has a prototype syscon with a completely different update process.

    Third and finally, the DECR-1000a motherboard remains somewhat of a mystery, with only some very old pictures that are available. It would be an incredible asset to the ps3 developer wiki if we could get more information as well as pictures of this enigmatic device.

    If you still believe in the ps3 scene, I urge you to donate whatever you can to this project, in order to secure a bright future for devs and end users alike.


    Interview with adrianc

    1- Once you get your hands on a DECR-1000a, do you personally have plans to bring PS2 and GameCube emulation to the 'scene'?

    I don't personally intend to oversee these projects, but I have spoken with other devs who expressed interest in this type of advanced emulation, and each time I was told that they couldn't possibly do it without the advanced profiling features available on a DECR-1000a console. One dev in particular said that without being able to see the bottlenecks in the code, the PS3 powerpc performs worse than a Nintendo Wii. :P When I do get my hands on a Decr-1000a, I intend to give these devs remote access so they can debug their code whenever they feel like it.

    1a- With dev access to remote debugging, what other interesting things might we possibly see in the future, with the DECR-1000a console?

    Besides emulation, this leaves the door open to seeing some triple A homebrew designed specifically for the platform, as well as ports of open source games, such as Lugaru for example. I can't imagine absolutely every scenario, but the bottom line is that having a DECR-1000a removes all obstacles to programming for the PS3.


    2- What can we do with the 3.60+ keys?

    3.60+ keys will have a great effect on both devs and end users alike. Anyone will be able to decrypt and resign 3.60+ selfs as 3.55, such as Portal 2 for playing on 3.55 consoles. As well, devs will be able to decrypt and examine the 3.60+ firmware for any possible exploits, and open the door to future softmods.


    3- What would hacking the syscon provide for the community?

    Hacking the syscon could possibly allow 2 wire nand/nor access and provide control over the hardware via UART. As well, it will provide some insight into the device's update process, and possibly allow the installation of hacked syscon firmwares. The sky is truly the limit with regards to syscon hacking, yet most people are not aware of this.


    4- What other exploits might you be able to explore with this new console?

    RAM dumping, lv1 debugging, and BD-emu to name a few. We won't truly know everything though, until we actually have our hands on the console. DECR consoles may also have different metldr/bootldr versions because of their early design and manufacture.

    4a- What types of things might we see with exploring these areas, such as BD-emu?

    The DECR-1000a has support for internal BD-emu so exploring how it does this might allow us to replicate such functionality on retail consoles.

    4b- Also, what can one hope to find exploring RAM dumping, and lv1 debugging?

    Ram dumping will allow competent devs to find the 3.60+ keys as a holdover until it bootldr is exploited. Lv1 debugging theoretically gives us the ability to examine 3.60+ lv1 as it runs perhaps allowing us to dump it and the keys.


    5- What are all the different ways we can support this project, the community, and the 'scene'?

    Well the fastest and most direct way you can support this project is by making a donation. Other than that, you can support by voting for my LSPWN app here on psx scene(http://psx-scene.com/forums/content/...e-dumper-1344/) to help win $250 toward the project. Lastly, if you can't spare any money you can help by letting us know you like and support our efforts, this goes a long way towards boosting morale sometimes, you might be surprised!

    Mission Statement
    We are a group of ps3 scene devs who wish to pool our money to purchase a DECR-1000a for community debugging and exploring possible exploits. Any and all donations are appreciated.
    Twitter: adriancps3

    Project Site: ps3decr.blogspot.com

    Contribute to the Project: PS3 DECR Project
    Comments 79 Comments
    1. regg949's Avatar
      regg949 -
      Just donated 7.00, little on the broke side, but had to contribute. I wish I knew more so i could help more than just my tiny amount.
    1. DrOctagon's Avatar
      DrOctagon -
      $910 of the $1800 needed raised so far people.
    1. NuclearAqua's Avatar
      NuclearAqua -
      Half the money in just a day and half is truly impressive. Congratulations.
    1. Menace's Avatar
      Menace -
      yeah looks they will get the money they need.

      i just hope they can deliver the goods too at some point...


      best of luck of course.
    1. Beelzeboss's Avatar
      Beelzeboss -
      Some money donated!
    1. sonic-iso's Avatar
      sonic-iso -
      anyone who donated to this project is a complete idiot.
    1. NuclearAqua's Avatar
      NuclearAqua -
      Quote Originally Posted by sonic-iso View Post
      anyone who donated to this project is a complete idiot.
      Ban in 3, 2, 1...
    1. sonic-iso's Avatar
      sonic-iso -
      Quote Originally Posted by NuclearAqua View Post
      Ban in 3, 2, 1...
      ban? why? you dont NEED a tool to get the keys. just sayin.
    1. damox's Avatar
      damox -
      Quote Originally Posted by sonic-iso View Post
      ban? why? you dont NEED a tool to get the keys. just sayin.
      Plus: http://ps3decr.blogspot.com/ is now gone.
    1. NuclearAqua's Avatar
      NuclearAqua -
      Quote Originally Posted by damox View Post
      Plus: http://ps3decr.blogspot.com/ is now gone.
      maybe some noob ratted it out to blogger.
    1. tthousand's Avatar
      tthousand -
      CEASE AND DESIST according to his latest tweets. And now come to find out, they have removed his twitter account too!
    1. ogel2's Avatar
      ogel2 -
      should we getting worried by now?
    1. tthousand's Avatar
      tthousand -
      First off, I have shot the guy a PM, and I hope he will get back to me ASAP, as this is not a joking matter.

      And here is what is being reported elsewhere, at rootedsystems:

      Attachment 29983

      Here is what has been taken from a report at PS3Crunch:
      Quote Originally Posted by Someone@ps3crunch View Post
      I going to get alot of shit from this, but here is the full log, all replies have been "renamed" to XXXX, they are all not from the same person, just various people in the channel. -- It seems the person asking for the C&D was the one selling him the unit in the first place, maybe worried since they are all tracked by Sony (the units), he would get in trouble, but sadly the "seller" is not in this channel, in fact no one knows if the "seller" even exists at all.
      @adrianc ok i gotta delete my twitter and the blog
      @adrianc but the paypal lives on for 3 days
      @xxxx wtf for?
      @adrianc im going to be able to get the decr though
      @adrianc 1100 from donations
      @adrianc +250 from psx scene
      @adrianc +400 from this gdev sale
      xxxx sick
      @adrianc he wants me to close my paypal too
      @adrianc but thankfully its pending a transaction
      @adrianc and i have 3 days
      @adrianc i might cover it up for now as a c&d
      @adrianc anyone see any problems with this?
      @adrianc i want to be as transparent as possible
      xxxx aren't they going to know you have the decr ?
      @adrianc who?
      xxxx yes
      xxxx and those associated
      @adrianc well he is just pissed that i solicited donations or w/e
      @adrianc his exact words were
      @adrianc [qwerty] you know i was close to destroying you today right?
      @adrianc [qwerty] that shit on psx-scene had my ****ing brain on fire
      @adrianc [qwerty] it was probably the most retarded thing ive seen on there besides rebugs stupid shit
      xxxx Still not really understanding how this guy would get you blacklisted, but whatever
      xxxx just seems like a lot of drama for no good reason
      @adrianc yes
      @xxxx agreed xxxx
      xxxx to me it looks like the crab in the bucket
      xxxx keep the other crab down from getting out off the bucket
      @xxxx adrianc: if you do that, you'll look like you scammed people
      @adrianc yes :S
      @adrianc it will
      @adrianc until i buy the decr
      @adrianc its a shitty situation
      @adrianc im between a rock and a hard place i suppose
      @adrianc but you guys can vouch for me i guess
      @adrianc unless you really think i ****ed up so bad i dont deserve it
      @adrianc >.>
      @adrianc somebody rt this before i delete
      @adrianc Twitter
      @xxxx no way
      @xxxx you dind't get a cease and desist
      @xxxx you got told to quit
      @adrianc welp
      @adrianc cease and desist from who?
      @adrianc its not a lie
      @adrianc i did get a cease and desist
      @xxxx I'm not re-tweeting that
      @xxxx everyone will think it's Sony.
      @adrianc so?
      @xxxx and that would be misleading
      @adrianc ok
      @adrianc what would you change
      @xxxx I wouldn't delete my twitter
      @adrianc i fired that off in 15 seconds
      @adrianc xxxx im trying to be a good guy about this but you arent making it easy
      @xxxx I'm not trying to bully you
      @xxxx you do what you gotta do.
      @adrianc i always said my goal was to satisfy everyone
      @xxxx I'm also not going to tell you what you want to hear because you want to hear it.
      @adrianc no thats not it
      xxxx ? "Got told to quit and get back in the bucket by "evil crab", am going off the radar for a bit" ?
      @adrianc elp
      @adrianc *welp
      @xxxx if it was sony. that would be ok in my mind
      @xxxx if it's just some asshole scene member. I don't know.
      xxxx but I agree with xxxx that negotiating with "terrorists" (large and small ones) is always a bad idea
      @adrianc its not negotiating
      @adrianc he made me an offer i couldnt refuse
      xxxx I dont know this [qwerty], wish I do, I would love to kick his ass in that bucket he wants others in
      @adrianc if you guys cant handle that fine
      @xxxx LOL
      xxxx I can only LOL at this drama
      @adrianc i suppose my good name will have to suffer for it
      @xxxx so your selling out too?
      @adrianc ill take the heat for it then
      xxxx what does that even mean... an offer you couldn't refuse
      xxxx this isn't the freaking mafia
      xxxx lol
      @adrianc i shouldnt have expected you to understand and i'm sorry for trying
      xxxx to me in all honesty this sounds like a scam ... just not sure which of you is the con
      kick: [adrianc] was kicked by [xxxx] [Nothing personal, do what you gotta do. Seriously.]
      @xxxx anyone disagrees. that's fine.
      @xxxx de-op me.
      xxxx hell no, I had enough scene drama for one day (and this chan has seen enough drama already imo) I am going to bed
      kick: [_adrianc] was kicked by [xxxx] [again, nothing personal]
      Thanks to the great xPreatorianx for the pic!
    1. cmptrblder's Avatar
      cmptrblder -
      This is EXACTLY why we do not need to blindly be donating to every cake hole asking for funds. This story seemed like crap from word one, someone looking cash for a new toy. Giving to legit developers is fine IF there actually going to contribute to the community like DEAN with Multiman for example and not horde there work for themselves. Too many devs putting out "teaser" info and not giving anything to the scene.
    1. fromzero's Avatar
      fromzero -
      Quote Originally Posted by ogel2 View Post
      should we getting worried by now?
      I know adrian wouldn't do it but it sounds like something I would... Raise a few thousand in donations and then be like "well I gotta' lay low"
    1. tthousand's Avatar
      tthousand -
      Still waiting to hear from the man himself before I officialy judge him.
    1. videogamerevie81's Avatar
      videogamerevie81 -
      so he got a bunch of money and is not going to do anything? great...
    1. bitsbubba's Avatar
      bitsbubba -
      I trust GaryOPA more than I trust this clown, does nobody remember he was Math's shadow disclosing the info about QA flagging, I myself knew he would do nothing for the Scene, as to why I didn't donate!!
    1. xiaNaix's Avatar
      xiaNaix -
      Wow. Do I really have to de-cloak over this? Those chat logs posted on PS3Crunch have been totally misread by people who have no idea how the scene really works. Not surprising, since there are so many of them out there running sites now or pretending to be bigshot devs on Twitter. Re-read that chat log. adrianc was hoping to use the C&D story as cover while he layed low for a while and worked on the hacks you've all been waiting for. Looks like the guy selling adrianc the equipment didn't like the idea of him being so publicly visible, for obvious reasons. That doesn't make him a FAKE or a SCAM-ARTIST, just a guy who doesn't want to end up in court or worse. The enemy crab has big eyes and long claws. It's neither dead nor sleeping. If you want to kill it, stop feeding it.
    1. tthousand's Avatar
      tthousand -
      Quote Originally Posted by xiaNaix View Post
      Wow. Do I really have to de-cloak over this? Those chat logs posted on PS3Crunch have been totally misread by people who have no idea how the scene really works. Not surprising, since there are so many of them out there running sites now or pretending to be bigshot devs on Twitter. Re-read that chat log. adrianc was hoping to use the C&D story as cover while he layed low for a while and worked on the hacks you've all been waiting for. Looks like the guy selling adrianc the equipment didn't like the idea of him being so publicly visible, for obvious reasons. That doesn't make him a FAKE or a SCAM-ARTIST, just a guy who doesn't want to end up in court or worse. The enemy crab has big eyes and long claws. It's neither dead nor sleeping. If you want to kill it, stop feeding it.
      Thank you, that is how I was reading it. I could not have put it any better, only hope to be able to. Good to see you again here sir!