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  • UPDATE - PS3 Decr Project - Interview with adrianc

    UPDATE: adrianc tweeted today that he has received a cease and desist order. The project site has been removed, as well as his twitter account. This project had already raised more than half of the donations they were seeking. I have tried to contact adrianc for further comment, but as his last tweet stated, he will be laying low for awhile. We will keep you updated as more information becomes available ...

    got a cease and desist, going off the radar for a bit. la resistance will live on
    I have recently had the privilege to conversate with developer adrianc, well known for finding the 3.56 keys, and conduct an interview detailing his current project, the PS3 DECR Project. adrianc and a few other devs, came up with the idea of pooling money for a collective scene DECR console for better debugging of applications and as well as taking advantage of the lesser security on the device for possible exploits. The important message is just how beneficial this is to the scene at large, and that if everyone contributed a small amount we can make this a reality very quickly.


    About PS3 Decr Project
    Hey, I'm adrianc, you may know me from around the ps3 scene for my work on various projects, for example finding and releasing the 3.56 keys. I'd like to encourage you to donate whatever you can to this project, as it could be a catalyst for great things in the scene.

    First and foremost, the DECR-1000a is a device that is essential to any quality homebrew being produced. Without it, homebrew devs cannot profile their applications in real time, something that will cripple most intensive applications such as gamecube or ps2 emulation, preventing them from ever being viable.

    Secondly the DECR-1000a could open up the possibility of dumping the 3.60+ keys as it has a different hardware setup which could make it easier to dump the ram. In addition to this, the Syscon, which remains the last unhacked CPU remaining inside the PS3 could be exploited on the 1000a system, as it has a prototype syscon with a completely different update process.

    Third and finally, the DECR-1000a motherboard remains somewhat of a mystery, with only some very old pictures that are available. It would be an incredible asset to the ps3 developer wiki if we could get more information as well as pictures of this enigmatic device.

    If you still believe in the ps3 scene, I urge you to donate whatever you can to this project, in order to secure a bright future for devs and end users alike.


    Interview with adrianc

    1- Once you get your hands on a DECR-1000a, do you personally have plans to bring PS2 and GameCube emulation to the 'scene'?

    I don't personally intend to oversee these projects, but I have spoken with other devs who expressed interest in this type of advanced emulation, and each time I was told that they couldn't possibly do it without the advanced profiling features available on a DECR-1000a console. One dev in particular said that without being able to see the bottlenecks in the code, the PS3 powerpc performs worse than a Nintendo Wii. :P When I do get my hands on a Decr-1000a, I intend to give these devs remote access so they can debug their code whenever they feel like it.

    1a- With dev access to remote debugging, what other interesting things might we possibly see in the future, with the DECR-1000a console?

    Besides emulation, this leaves the door open to seeing some triple A homebrew designed specifically for the platform, as well as ports of open source games, such as Lugaru for example. I can't imagine absolutely every scenario, but the bottom line is that having a DECR-1000a removes all obstacles to programming for the PS3.


    2- What can we do with the 3.60+ keys?

    3.60+ keys will have a great effect on both devs and end users alike. Anyone will be able to decrypt and resign 3.60+ selfs as 3.55, such as Portal 2 for playing on 3.55 consoles. As well, devs will be able to decrypt and examine the 3.60+ firmware for any possible exploits, and open the door to future softmods.


    3- What would hacking the syscon provide for the community?

    Hacking the syscon could possibly allow 2 wire nand/nor access and provide control over the hardware via UART. As well, it will provide some insight into the device's update process, and possibly allow the installation of hacked syscon firmwares. The sky is truly the limit with regards to syscon hacking, yet most people are not aware of this.


    4- What other exploits might you be able to explore with this new console?

    RAM dumping, lv1 debugging, and BD-emu to name a few. We won't truly know everything though, until we actually have our hands on the console. DECR consoles may also have different metldr/bootldr versions because of their early design and manufacture.

    4a- What types of things might we see with exploring these areas, such as BD-emu?

    The DECR-1000a has support for internal BD-emu so exploring how it does this might allow us to replicate such functionality on retail consoles.

    4b- Also, what can one hope to find exploring RAM dumping, and lv1 debugging?

    Ram dumping will allow competent devs to find the 3.60+ keys as a holdover until it bootldr is exploited. Lv1 debugging theoretically gives us the ability to examine 3.60+ lv1 as it runs perhaps allowing us to dump it and the keys.


    5- What are all the different ways we can support this project, the community, and the 'scene'?

    Well the fastest and most direct way you can support this project is by making a donation. Other than that, you can support by voting for my LSPWN app here on psx scene(http://psx-scene.com/forums/content/...e-dumper-1344/) to help win $250 toward the project. Lastly, if you can't spare any money you can help by letting us know you like and support our efforts, this goes a long way towards boosting morale sometimes, you might be surprised!

    Mission Statement
    We are a group of ps3 scene devs who wish to pool our money to purchase a DECR-1000a for community debugging and exploring possible exploits. Any and all donations are appreciated.
    Twitter: adriancps3

    Project Site: ps3decr.blogspot.com

    Contribute to the Project: PS3 DECR Project
    Comments 79 Comments
    1. Final7317's Avatar
      Final7317 -
      Good job Adrianc! I can't support you myself through financial contributions, but I'm with you in spirit.I wish you all the best in this project!
    1. GButtah's Avatar
      GButtah -
      Well, I feel everyone should give at least 5 bux, come on. We enjoy this hobby thanks to guyz like this. Also, if there are quality games produced(5 star) we should support. Its a little tax for brain power.
    1. Tranced's Avatar
      Tranced -
      +Like on LSPWN. Sorry, it's the best I can do for now, having to sell every game I own just for food. I hope you raise the funds that you require. And good luck on your endeavors.
    1. griffunt's Avatar
      griffunt -
      this link doesnt work (gets me to widget config page)
      Contribute to the Project: PS3 DECR Project
      had to go over project site.
    1. amp2006's Avatar
      amp2006 -
      one more post you and i will give you an infraction .

      do you see by any mean if this thread has anything to do with multiMAN i already deleted your previous post.

      so post the subjects in the right threads '

      thanks
    1. tthousand's Avatar
      tthousand -
      Quote Originally Posted by griffunt View Post
      this link doesnt work (gets me to widget config page)had to go over project site.
      Thanks, fixed
    1. erroroccured's Avatar
      erroroccured -
      contributed $10 hopefully others will and soon this will be a reality
    1. unreal676's Avatar
      unreal676 -
      Financially unstable, so hopefully a like towards the LSPWN will go a long way, best of luck to you mate.
    1. thejason40's Avatar
      thejason40 -
      Donated $5. It's not much but hopefully many others will be contributing. Not everyone has the knowledge and the skills to help with the scene a lot of the time but you can still help! Surely everyone can spare a little bit.
    1. Player1's Avatar
      Player1 -
      Nice idea, BUT... purchase it WHERE!??How much for this device?
    1. sonic-hero's Avatar
      sonic-hero -
      the ps3 cost 1800 dollar
      thats a hell of alot :P
      and sorry i cant donate too young im 15lol i dont even know how it works :P
    1. 0m1kr0n's Avatar
      0m1kr0n -
      A lot of things they want done can be done with only realignment and stack emulation using old firmware modules. Specifically SCE otheros and software-PS2-emu. Gamecube needs to be done with it's own code though. It doesn't matter what is 'clean roomed' it'll all get deleted and met with lawsuits.
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    1. Lokado's Avatar
      Lokado -
      Off-topic:
      I just wanted to say, I've been a passive visitor so far but I've always enjoyed reading the updates here.

      On-topic:
      I just donated 5 dollars, it's not much but it's something. I hope this pushes research and development for homebrew just a little bit further. Keep up the good work adrianc!
    1. krafty_pk's Avatar
      krafty_pk -
      The newest post in that thread was 99weeks ago?

      Did they not manage to get anywhere then?
    1. adrianc's Avatar
      adrianc -
      Quote Originally Posted by Player1 View Post
      Nice idea, BUT... purchase it WHERE!??How much for this device?
      It's being purchased privately, these devices are very hard to come by. The current goal is listed on the project site, but there have been down payments and reductions, so it is currently $1800. (The original goal was $10,000)

      Quote Originally Posted by 0m1kr0n View Post
      A lot of things they want done can be done with only realignment and stack emulation using old firmware modules. Specifically SCE otheros and software-PS2-emu. Gamecube needs to be done with it's own code though. It doesn't matter what is 'clean roomed' it'll all get deleted and met with lawsuits.
      It could be open sourced and compiled using the legal PSL1GHT toolchain.


      PS3news has had one for quite some time, but they never did anything with it.

      -adrianc
    1. garyopa's Avatar
      garyopa -
      Quote Originally Posted by krafty_pk View Post
      The newest post in that thread was 99weeks ago?

      Did they not manage to get anywhere then?
      They most likely turn around and sold it off.

      You got to remember 99 weeks ago, is almost 2 years ago.

      The PSJAILBREAK been only around for 1 year now.

      Geohot/Fail0verflow and all these released decryption keys only about 8 months old

      Hardware flashers that are stable and easy to use only couple of months old.

      So it is time to re-visit this machine, and take a crack at it with all of TODAY's current knowledge.

      Back 99 weeks ago, all we could do is open it up with screwdriver and stare into the maze of chips and say, WOW, NEAT.
    1. krafty_pk's Avatar
      krafty_pk -
      yep fair play, should have known that tbh, i have been in the.....'scene'... eurgh.. for at least 12 months now

      would be great to see what this can do, ill be chipping in soon =)
    1. Vi7AL's Avatar
      Vi7AL -
      Donate your left over change on PAYPAL at least, it will add up fast.... donate a buck.
    1. vein's Avatar
      vein -
      Don't feel your one donation doesn't make (much of) a difference, cause if everyone has that opinion (which alot of people do!), this wouldn't happen, and there would be no exploits like 3.60 keys, lv1 debugging, RAM Dumping, and syscon hacking to name a few.