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  • True Blue's Warning to Clone Users - Internal HDD Will be Erased!

    Well, we were all expecting something like this after JB-King released their 2.5 firmware patch. Today, the True Blue team have made an announcement on there website regarding clones of their devices, and the users that use them. Apparently, there is already an anti-clone technology in the TB firmware, which when it detects a clone will produce one of several random effects to your PS3. One such effect could be the erasing of your internal HDD. They have also announced they are working on developing and deploying more anti-clone features shortly.


    A warning to those considering or having already purchased a True Blue clone: we have previously implemented special anti-clone technology in the True Blue firmware which accurately detects clones and when such a clone is detected, will activate one of several effects at random intervals, such as erasing the internal PS3 HDD. The recent JBKing 2.5 software update is especially affected by these measures; anyone using this clone will be subject to data loss as a result of random HDD erasure as well as other effects. Other anti-clone measures are now being developed and will be deployed shortly.

    Clones of True Blue will be blocked and future EBOOT's will not function with such devices. It is therefore important that users, in the interests of enjoyment and to avoid wasting money on trivially detectable clones, should purchase only original True Blue devices.
    Again, if you would like to discuss the moral ramifications of this device, please do so here at the TrueBlue and Team PARADOX debate thread

    Official Site: True Blue

    Keep in mind, we here have yet to see any confirmed reports of anything like this happening while using JB-King. It could be a rumor, it could be true; at least you have been warned.

    tthousand's tthoughts-
    Quote Originally Posted by tthousand View Post
    This is how I look at it. These other clones have never offered anything the original TB did not, and at times they offered less due to TB's changing security measures. It makes since that it would continue this way, but some people are saying that they are taking it too far.

    This is just one of the random effects that can happen when you use a clone on the (soon to be released TB FW v3?) system, others have yet to be announced which could be less or more drastic.

    I think this should really only concern the cloners, as they are the ones who are doing the testing to see if they can get the latest EBOOT patches working before they release a fix to their paying customer, customers who are buying an imitation/knock-off.

    As I stated in my article, right now this is all speculation, but the real question here is why are they going to such lengths to prevent people from tampering with there device? Are there secrets finally close to being unlocked? Are the cloners on to something?

    And by the way, the cloners are no help to the problem of reversing the TB and PARADOX patch method. If anything, they are just creating a larger gap. I could be wrong about this, but that is my opinion.

    The bottom line is: If you are a TB supporter, you have nothing to worry about. If you purchased a clone, you get what you paid for.
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    Comments 132 Comments
    1. ccfman2004's Avatar
      ccfman2004 -
      The TrueBlue team has no right to erase your hard drive. I understand the need to protect your product, but this is ridiculous. A simple thing like not allowing the fixed eboots to run. Causing hardware or software damage is illegal in some places.

      Look at Nintendo with the 3DS, they put a warning on the box saying that if you use any unauthorized device, like a flash cart, your 3DS will be bricked. I haven't heard of that happening to anyone.

      Not everyone who uses a TrueBlue dongle is a pirate. I don't have one yet, but I am really tempted to get one as I have purchased games that require 3.60+ that I can't play. Anyone who doesn't believe me, I will gladly upload my GameStop receipts to prove I am not a pirate.
    1. nativesith's Avatar
      nativesith -
      I have been a defender of True Blue , until this ISH! I wish they would just stick to releasing eboots instead of wasting time.
      Who really knows if their dongle is a real TB, can we really trust the companies that sold True Blue dongles?
    1. Goku1992's Avatar
      Goku1992 -
      @Ccfman 2004

      Lets just say that 3DS did brick a handheld because someone had an R4 it would still be the users fault. And it isn't about who pirates or doesn't pirate at the end of the day it's all about playing games.

      TB haves a right because for the people who bought their dongle knew the risks. Once again their is an OPTION not to update the TB dongle or you can and it is really that simple. Trust TB they are very talented developers they wont let you down. Have they ever let us down?
    1. tthousand's Avatar
      tthousand -
      This is how I look at it. These other clones have never offered anything the original TB did not, and at times they offered less due to TB's changing security measures. It makes since that it would continue this way, but some people are saying that they are taking it too far.

      This is just one of the random effects that can happen when you use a clone on the (soon to be released TB FW v3?) system, others have yet to be announced which could be less or more drastic.

      I think this should really only concern the cloners, as they are the ones who are doing the testing to see if they can get the latest EBOOT patches working before they release a fix to their paying customer, customers who are buying an imitation/knock-off.

      As I stated in my article, right now this is all speculation, but the real question here is why are they going to such lengths to prevent people from tampering with there device? Are there secrets finally close to being unlocked? Are the cloners on to something?

      And by the way, the cloners are no help to the problem of reversing the TB and PARADOX patch method. If anything, they are just creating a larger gap. I could be wrong about this, but that is my opinion.

      The bottom line is: If you are a TB supporter, you have nothing to worry about. If you purchased a clone, you get what you paid for.
    1. NeoKnight's Avatar
      NeoKnight -
      It might not of been a good idea for the True Blue team to mention this. They may scare customers away by revealing the fact that they have a kind of ticking time bomb in their ps3s.
    1. Kode.Ex's Avatar
      Kode.Ex -
      Quote Originally Posted by NeoKnight View Post
      It might not of been a good idea for the True Blue team to mention this. They may scare customers away by revealing the fact that they have a kind of ticking time bomb in their ps3s.
      Ticking time bomb for those who don't own a TB dongle, you mean?


      This is just a measure to get the clones from counterfeiting on their true work.
      We don't know what they do to provide us with these more recent games, but it has to be something for them to put out such extreme measures.
      I'm more than glad i bought TB. I'm just as happy that I got a USB cobra. if something happens, then ehh it's probably my fault.
      I understand the risks, but i bought TB. i bought a second ps3 just strictly for legit things and psn if anything happens like that even to legit buyers like myself.
      It's a privilege I say to have something like this even still available, so I, for one, welcome and support our eboot overlords.
    1. Staylecrate's Avatar
      Staylecrate -
      If people put as much energy into making clones to get paid, why not just reverse engineer the TB and use a few different parts. I know it would be kinda patent infringement-ish, but its better than screwing over the end user that is just trying to game.

      I own a TB. I personally think all the energy should have been put towards getting a better FW that we all could use. But I knew that wasn't going to happen. Unfourtunitly greed will come hand in hand when people figure out exploits. It's sad.

      Thank god for all the devs out there trying there damnedest and basically ask nothing in return. They are the people that really help keep the scene alive.

      But I digress, I think TB should work on their end supporting the hardware they put out by helping 'fixing' some EBOOT's.. and their web page... seriously? Google links?

      staylecrate
    1. soulreaver's Avatar
      soulreaver -
      True Blue Team has just announced us that "They Will Walk Over Dead Bodies" if it is necessary in order to become Rich.......!!!
      This is Pure GREED......i am sorry but you are showing the wrong way to children that are playing video games and become aware of such actions...!!
      I am just Sorry.......for you!!!
    1. GhaleonX's Avatar
      GhaleonX -
      They should make a new ad read:
      True Blue - Take control of your PS3...
      ... and give it to us!


      Quote Originally Posted by Goku1992 View Post
      if Microsoft did do that it would make people think twice about running unsigned code on thier system.
      The only people running unsigned code on a 360 are people with either a devkit, or a jtag/rgh system. The vast majority of 360 mods are dvd firmware hacks, and every bit of MS' authentication process is still adhered to - while we may attack a weak link of the security chain and lie about the type of disc it's on, the chain is still intact, and every challenge must have an appropriate response before the console will boot the game.

      Hospitals charge people to save a human life but they are SO MORALLY WRONG for charging someone to save their live.
      It's more like if your doctor told you if you received health care anywhere else, you would also suddenly need more of that health care ("hey, accidents happen; It'd be horrible if someone were to break your legs just because they seen you at the wrong hospital, but this is a crazy world we live in").
    1. BahumatLord's Avatar
      BahumatLord -
      Quote Originally Posted by Kode.Ex View Post
      I, for one, welcome and support our eboot overlords.
      I have never heard it put quite that way before
    1. Jay-Jay's Avatar
      Jay-Jay -
      I want an "Iron Clad" guarantee from TB that my official Dongle will never be confused as a clone! I don't want nothing to delete my files. Plus what if it also starts to corrupt my external HDDs! I hope they come out with a clearer message than this.

      If this spooks official TB users, can you just imagine how scared the cloners users are? lol
    1. tthousand's Avatar
      tthousand -
      You would think so, but we still got people showing up today and asking if they should just buy the clone because it is cheaper.
    1. kristowsa's Avatar
      kristowsa -
      Quote Originally Posted by wartutor View Post
      who the hell do these people thank they are...man someone really needs to find out how there doing the eboot patches and just do them for 3.55 and put these dumb *ucks out of business...
      Realy! without these dumb *ucks where would the scene be for sure no one would be playing all the titels we can enjoy with the trueblue! wouldn't you try to protect the knolage if it was yours? think about it game £40 tb jb approx £44 come dont be a ding-bat!!!
    1. amp2006's Avatar
      amp2006 -
      since the PS3 scene became all about the Money then i gave up about PS3 scene .so screw the PS3 Scene i will just enjoy my old games and also some Homebrew and other things .
    1. DeathByGrogg's Avatar
      DeathByGrogg -
      It's funny, because you guys said i was overreacting when i claimed that by buying one of these DRM-jails from these scoundrels, you are essentially paying to be held hostage.
    1. amp2006's Avatar
      amp2006 -
      they were nice in the first .lol joking

      and by my question i mean the present PS3Scene .
    1. jalaneme's Avatar
      jalaneme -
      Quote Originally Posted by twig View Post

      jalaneme
      saidz: "wow, just wow, i hope you are the first one to have your harddrive erased and i hope you loose personal data and photos too."

      Wow, just wow. I hope you are the first one to have his harddrive erased, for storing PERSONAL DATA and photos on his jailbroken Playstation 3.
      If not for that then for hoping this for others - He at least thought its a better idea than brinking their console (In which I think he meant perm. brink = nofun).
      just jump off a bridge and die, you moron, not everyone can afford 2 ps3s if ther data is only on cfw and these extremists go ahead and delete data, what would people do then? not that you would give a dam.
    1. whitedove's Avatar
      whitedove -
      Quote Originally Posted by E1reason View Post
      This scene is officially dead, TB talking there shit, developers talking about who makes how much in profit. I never brought a TB device cause I thought it was gay to begin with, "They worked hard to make there own software" bullshit, if FailOverFlow, Kweam, Deank and a host of others didnt provide a FREE CFW and backup manager, this guys would be up shits creek. So **** TB **** the fags who brought a defend this bullshit, and **** this scene Im out
      you should think before you say anything because no one nows how trueblue works so you dont know if there work Contributed at all to there device and even if it did all the people you just said would be nowhere without the original psjb everyone knows the scene is the bastard child of the original psjb, now they did Contribute alot some of them but they still used psjb to get where they are which would be nowhere without the psjb, and true blue have every right to protect there device and there fixes, its the ones to cheap to pay a little bit more
      for Continued support and fixes from the original innovators so i say good on them, so that all i got to say to you is think and check facts before you replay to a post and not just act out of anger or malice
    1. amp2006's Avatar
      amp2006 -
      watch out guys do NOT post troll or other shits in this thread
    1. jalaneme's Avatar
      jalaneme -
      Quote Originally Posted by E1reason View Post
      My fault I thought expressing my opinion on how these dongle "companies" are ****ing the scene over with there bullshit was the topic. So in your opinion what would be considered on topic. Why TB shouldn't be doing this, what effect it will have on my console, or simply black and white my ****ING OPINION. This is why this shit is dead **** bags like TB make bullshit to **** over the scene and here its supported. I am in no way speaking of there latest tactics, but the fact that this dongle exist in the first place. They took what others made free, and cashed in on it. Some might say that is just enterprising while other (such ass my self) call it $ony. Ive been on this scene damn near since it started, and its going from share and care, to cash and slash. Hopefully for this post I am banned from this god awful ****ing site, so I no longer am compelled to respond to the mindless sheep of the system.
      i wish i could pat you on the back for such a wonderful post like this you speak from the heart.

      Quote Originally Posted by Ben Jeremy View Post
      It's time for devs that know what TB is doing to come out and make it free, once and for all. No clones, just CFW that patches the libs needed to run newer EBOOTs.

      This kind of crap has no place in legit commerce.
      well said man, but it's way too late for this to happen now.

      Quote Originally Posted by Phreaker47 View Post
      I'd feel guilty and ashamed if I had given these assholes one penny. Threatening you with DESTRUCTIVE VIRUS-LIKE activity for buying a clone? These are people in a business that they can hardly justify such a high and mighty position.
      they think they are above the law when they are clearly not, what right do they have erasing peoples personal data like this?
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