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  • True Blue's Warning to Clone Users - Internal HDD Will be Erased!

    Well, we were all expecting something like this after JB-King released their 2.5 firmware patch. Today, the True Blue team have made an announcement on there website regarding clones of their devices, and the users that use them. Apparently, there is already an anti-clone technology in the TB firmware, which when it detects a clone will produce one of several random effects to your PS3. One such effect could be the erasing of your internal HDD. They have also announced they are working on developing and deploying more anti-clone features shortly.


    A warning to those considering or having already purchased a True Blue clone: we have previously implemented special anti-clone technology in the True Blue firmware which accurately detects clones and when such a clone is detected, will activate one of several effects at random intervals, such as erasing the internal PS3 HDD. The recent JBKing 2.5 software update is especially affected by these measures; anyone using this clone will be subject to data loss as a result of random HDD erasure as well as other effects. Other anti-clone measures are now being developed and will be deployed shortly.

    Clones of True Blue will be blocked and future EBOOT's will not function with such devices. It is therefore important that users, in the interests of enjoyment and to avoid wasting money on trivially detectable clones, should purchase only original True Blue devices.
    Again, if you would like to discuss the moral ramifications of this device, please do so here at the TrueBlue and Team PARADOX debate thread

    Official Site: True Blue

    Keep in mind, we here have yet to see any confirmed reports of anything like this happening while using JB-King. It could be a rumor, it could be true; at least you have been warned.

    tthousand's tthoughts-
    Quote Originally Posted by tthousand View Post
    This is how I look at it. These other clones have never offered anything the original TB did not, and at times they offered less due to TB's changing security measures. It makes since that it would continue this way, but some people are saying that they are taking it too far.

    This is just one of the random effects that can happen when you use a clone on the (soon to be released TB FW v3?) system, others have yet to be announced which could be less or more drastic.

    I think this should really only concern the cloners, as they are the ones who are doing the testing to see if they can get the latest EBOOT patches working before they release a fix to their paying customer, customers who are buying an imitation/knock-off.

    As I stated in my article, right now this is all speculation, but the real question here is why are they going to such lengths to prevent people from tampering with there device? Are there secrets finally close to being unlocked? Are the cloners on to something?

    And by the way, the cloners are no help to the problem of reversing the TB and PARADOX patch method. If anything, they are just creating a larger gap. I could be wrong about this, but that is my opinion.

    The bottom line is: If you are a TB supporter, you have nothing to worry about. If you purchased a clone, you get what you paid for.
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    Comments 132 Comments
    1. BahumatLord's Avatar
      BahumatLord -
      unless you know something I don't Duplex hasn't released fixes since what? Last year? It's been PARADOX, exetrimall and some private releasers. If you're talking about the recent games released by Duplex, they are just the games, not games with working fixes
    1. froid_san's Avatar
      froid_san -
      what counts as clone??

      i got a trublue dongle and i can update it as many times as i want with the 2.5 update, then got a second one that refuses to be updated to 2.5 forgot the error, but it works with the 2.5 tb cfw and some latest games.

      i keep on wondering if that secont one is a clone in a trublue casing.

      if thats the case some might get skrewed by this end ened up having to pay the price for having a clone wich they thought they bought a original trublue
    1. laymiauan's Avatar
      laymiauan -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ben Jeremy View Post
      It's time for devs that know what TB is doing to come out and make it free, once and for all. No clones, just CFW that patches the libs needed to run newer EBOOTs.

      This kind of crap has no place in legit commerce.
      totaly agree i hope born new george hotz
    1. GNkyrios's Avatar
      GNkyrios -
      Quote Originally Posted by BahumatLord View Post
      unless you know something I don't Duplex hasn't released fixes since what? Last year? It's been PARADOX, exetrimall and some private releasers. If you're talking about the recent games released by Duplex, they are just the games, not games with working fixes
      derp i mixed up duplex with paradox
    1. brakk3n's Avatar
      brakk3n -
      The measures are quite harsh, but you have to remember you're dealing with a group of developers who sites like ps3sux ran off and they now have created a product and this product relies on an illegal distribution channel of games via physical media and the Internet. Don't forget you're ****ing with one of the most old scene release groups Paradox. What did you expect, a little text warning on the screen?

      You **** with pissed off hackers and this is the kind of shit you get. So stop crying and get over it.

      NEXT STORY PLEASE.
    1. brakk3n's Avatar
      brakk3n -
      Quote Originally Posted by megatoto View Post
      I m wondering if TB team is a mafia cause they act like ! Can you help me to understand their strange business ? It is legal or not ?
      No their business is illegal from the ground up. Paradox has been associated with the French Mafia in the past. When they were in bed with ps3news (then called ps2nfo) and the owner of Divineo (Max). Max was in the Mafia. So yeah, they are kinda Mafia like aren't they
    1. E1reason's Avatar
      E1reason -
      Quote Originally Posted by Goku1992 View Post
      Please stay on topic if you feel that way BahumatLord haves a thread about your feelings



      anyways these are security updates if you have the legitimate dongle you will be safe nothing to worry about if TB can crack latest games TB know what they are doing with the updates.
      My fault I thought expressing my opinion on how these dongle "companies" are ****ing the scene over with there bullshit was the topic. So in your opinion what would be considered on topic. Why TB shouldn't be doing this, what effect it will have on my console, or simply black and white my ****ING OPINION. This is why this shit is dead **** bags like TB make bullshit to **** over the scene and here its supported. I am in no way speaking of there latest tactics, but the fact that this dongle exist in the first place. They took what others made free, and cashed in on it. Some might say that is just enterprising while other (such ass my self) call it $ony. Ive been on this scene damn near since it started, and its going from share and care, to cash and slash. Hopefully for this post I am banned from this god awful ****ing site, so I no longer am compelled to respond to the mindless sheep of the system.
    1. brakk3n's Avatar
      brakk3n -
      Quote Originally Posted by E1reason View Post
      so I no longer am compelled to respond to the mindless sheep of the system.
      There's two herds of dem sheepies.

      Do you need a towel to wipe those tears up?
    1. BahumatLord's Avatar
      BahumatLord -
      This is the only warning I'm going to give. I know this news is upsetting for a lot of people. Keep this discussion civilized and without excessive cussing and name calling. You are all free to express yourselves and get your point across. Some of you need to choose your words better
    1. laymiauan's Avatar
      laymiauan -
      jb king if you listening crack pes2012 eboot this can make tb lose his profit in indonesian 80% indonesian people buy ps3 just for play pes2012
    1. oldirtdog's Avatar
      oldirtdog -
      Quote Originally Posted by videogamerevie81 View Post
      I wanted to buy the true blue but knowing that these ****s can erase my hdd anytime they want? I changed my mind... good going true bule (sarcasm)
      True Blue Dongle PS3 USA / Canada

      i managed to snag one from modchipcentral last week and it will be here tomorrow via ups. when i ordered it it was on backorder like it is now but they are filling orders as stock comes in.

      60 bucks was more than worth it to play street fighter x tekken, ultimate marvel (IT'S MAHVEL BABY!!!) vs. capcom 3, blazblue continuum shift extend, cod modern warfare 3, tekken hybrid, and soul calibur 5. all of which are on my hdd and waiting for the ups man to get here tomorrow. and i get to take a dump all over capcom and play sfxt with the 12 disc locked characters FOR THE WIN!!! i held out as long as i could, but it seems nobody wants to step up and figure out how to make these new games work.
    1. Goku1992's Avatar
      Goku1992 -
      Quote Originally Posted by E1reason View Post
      My fault I thought expressing my opinion on how these dongle "companies" are ****ing the scene over with there bullshit was the topic. So in your opinion what would be considered on topic. Why TB shouldn't be doing this, what effect it will have on my console, or simply black and white my ****ING OPINION. This is why this shit is dead **** bags like TB make bullshit to **** over the scene and here its supported. I am in no way speaking of there latest tactics, but the fact that this dongle exist in the first place. They took what others made free, and cashed in on it. Some might say that is just enterprising while other (such ass my self) call it $ony. Ive been on this scene damn near since it started, and its going from share and care, to cash and slash. Hopefully for this post I am banned from this god awful ****ing site, so I no longer am compelled to respond to the mindless sheep of the system.
      Look I understand that you are upset. But this is now TB are the only ones doing things and honestly to play (most of the latest games) you need a TB dongle. No If's/ands/or buts about it. They can choose to charge what they want after all it's their product and software.

      On topic means that TB can do this because this like a firmware update just like how Sony shut down VBL. Anyways I am quite happy that they are doing this and yes I meant Brick consoles. Why not. TB made the eboots why leech off of their success make your own eboots.

      I got an infraction a while back ago for calling devs (names because they work for free) why aren't people getting infractions for all the trash talking and bashing that they give TB.

      Don't Like? Don't comment

      Anyways staying on topic these are security updates nothing really to see here.

      Damn why must we go through this all the time.

      Have an Original Dongle don't worry about it. Have JB King then DONT play any of the newer patches until JB King finds a break through. Really it's that simple people
    1. BahumatLord's Avatar
      BahumatLord -
      @Goku1992 - you gotta admit it's upsetting for any company to think they have the right to erase your hard drive or brick your conole/dongle/whatever. It's like Microsoft saying it will brick your PC if you run freeware/open source software. Or even iTunes doing it if you run WinAMP, RealPlayer or MediaPlayer Classic

      I do have a question for you. I remember you said you sold your PS3 recently and switched to the 360. So if I understand your recent posts none of this applies to you anyway, so why egg people on by saying you hope they brick their consoles?
    1. Goku1992's Avatar
      Goku1992 -
      Quote Originally Posted by BahumatLord View Post
      @Goku1992 - you gotta admit it's upsetting for any company to think they have the right to erase your hard drive or brick your conole/dongle/whatever. It's like Microsoft saying it will brick your PC if you run freeware/open source software. Or even iTunes doing it if you run WinAMP, RealPlayer or MediaPlayer Classic

      I do have a question for you. I remember you said you sold your PS3 recently and switched to the 360. So if I understand your recent posts none of this applies to you anyway, so why egg people on by saying you hope they brick their consoles?
      I haven't sold it yet :/ but I did order a 360 on ebay that comes in the mail soon so flashed xbox for me But for the time being I am playing my TB ps3 until I sell it

      And about TB yes maybe bricking is a tad extreme but here is my opinion

      For clones I respect if they can actually make their own eboots and not leech off of the product so this will make them think twice and btw if Microsoft did do that it would make people think twice about running unsigned code on thier system.

      If I cant sell my ps3 I will update it to play the PS3 exclusives (Uncharted and etc..etc) I do still own alot of legitimate ps3 games but seeing the same hateful TB posts piss me off because I make 1 remark and I get infracted and some people are saying **** true blue and they are not being touched.

      A company can do whatever they want because

      1. you signed the EULA so that means if they do decide to brick consoles for people trying to run unsigned code the company will win
      2. It is still their product

      I am not trying to say that TB is right for doing this but they must still protect their product at all costs. Maybe bricking will teach their competitors a second thought and ACTUALLY learn how to do it themselves.

      THE PS3 Scene is not bad because people have the OPTION of playing games
      Some users cant seem to understand options

      Hospitals charge people to save a human life but they are SO MORALLY WRONG for charging someone to save their live.

      Think about that

      People got bills to pay just like you and me
    1. Phreaker47's Avatar
      Phreaker47 -
      I'd feel guilty and ashamed if I had given these assholes one penny. Threatening you with DESTRUCTIVE VIRUS-LIKE activity for buying a clone? These are people in a business that they can hardly justify such a high and mighty position.
    1. BahumatLord's Avatar
      BahumatLord -
      It's one thing if they brick the competitor's dongles. It's entirely different to erase unrelated hardware. There's a ton of stuff on my hard drive completely unrelated to the TB. Nobody has a right to touch that for any reason. It would be one thing if I tried to sign on to PSN and Sony did it because I am running code not signed by them which is against their user agreement. I'd just have to suck that up. But TB has no right to touch my hard drive.

      I own the original TB and like Jay-Jay was saying mistakes are made and there could be false positives on their detection system and even tho I do own the original TB dongle it might read as a clone and erase my hard drive.

      I'm not saying they shouldn't protect their source of income. There are other ways to do it
    1. Ps3funktionz's Avatar
      Ps3funktionz -
      I heard in the next TB cfw update they are going to incorporate code that if it detects you using a TB clone, it will send a gang of TB devs in a van to gang rape your mom! no $hit but yea on the real that $hits F'd up
    1. Goku1992's Avatar
      Goku1992 -
      Quote Originally Posted by BahumatLord View Post
      It's one thing if they brick the competitor's dongles. It's entirely different to erase unrelated hardware. There's a ton of stuff on my hard drive completely unrelated to the TB. Nobody has a right to touch that for any reason. It would be one thing if I tried to sign on to PSN and Sony did it because I am running code not signed by them which is against their user agreement. I'd just have to suck that up. But TB has no right to touch my hard drive.

      I own the original TB and like Jay-Jay was saying mistakes are made and there could be false positives on their detection system and even tho I do own the original TB dongle it might read as a clone and erase my hard drive.

      I'm not saying they shouldn't protect their source of income. There are other ways to do it
      Yes I understand but don't worry about it.

      TB seems smart and sophisticated if those guys know how to crack games 3.60+ I am pretty confident that they know what they are doing.

      But that the end of the day this is the deal that you make to play newer games there will be risks involved.

      You cant blame TB you have to blame the clones. Unlike PS Jailbreak TB seems more sophisticated and they know what they are doing pretty brilliant people. If you own an original then don't worry about it. If TB kill switch didn't get you yet neither will their update

      But serious measures must be taken into consent.

      Imagine you put all of you time into an investment and someone is going to take that away from you that will cost you a ton of money?

      On a user standpoint it seems really harsh I really do understand

      But on a business standpoint, this must be taken seiously

      Just like how Microsoft ban xbox consoles if they detect pirated material same thing.

      Alot of people are blinded because TB are doing this but TB MUST do this. Just like if Sony didn't take any SERIOUS action by eliminating the best hackers (Geohot/FailOverflow) and scaring off the good devs (Kakaroto, and etc..etc..) Their ps3 would be as open as a hacked psp is and lets not forget about them Raiding into Graf's house

      This is very serious people. More serious than you think. TB made alot of money off of this and I don't think they want thier gravy train to end just yet LOL

      If you was in their position you wouldn't do the same thing or would you just let your product fully be exploited.

      Please put yourself into their shoes.
    1. BahumatLord's Avatar
      BahumatLord -
      I'm not saying I wouldn't protect my investment. I'm saying I'd brick the clones instead
    1. Goku1992's Avatar
      Goku1992 -
      Quote Originally Posted by BahumatLord View Post
      I'm not saying I wouldn't protect my investment. I'm saying I'd brick the clones instead
      whatever works lol

      But you do see my point.

      TB is like the hacker version of sony well kinda