The True Blue Paradox Effect

[BahumatLord]

Since TB was updated to use patched eboots instead of these discs have you tried to make a backup to external and launch with Select+X?. I see some other people have tried and failed but these are all pretty old. Where is it stopping you at? multiMAN stopping you from doing it from the menu? Can you access the file contents from the file manager and copy a little at a time or does the DRM prevent you from even accessing the discs? Can cobra usb make an ISO backup of it and access the iso contents from PC?

[57413]

Right now I'm broke since I'm not receiving a paycheck anymore. So yes, $35 is a pretty penny.

Please provide link to $35 Dongle. ?????????????

Thanks!

All I've seen is $54 dongles!

[Jay-Jay]

@BahumatLord, I don't know if you knew this, but there is already a leaked Batman TB rip out there, the issue is that it won't boot up from any HDD. Give it a try...

AFAIK, Select+X will not work with TB dongle. Trying to rip any TB disc game is not successful with TB Dongle connected. You have to go back to Kmeaw firmware and then be able to copy the game with multiMAN. But it still won't load with TB from HDD. And there haven't been any concrete reports that burning the ripped TB game ISO to a BD will work.

[BahumatLord]

@57413 - we were talking about a Cobra USB (at least I was - looks like he might have been talking about both) NOT the TB which is usually $35 give or take a few dollars anywhere you look

@Jay-Jay - yeah, I saw that rip but no bd burner to try it on disc and everyone's saying it won't work on HDD. I'm just trying to figure out what's actually preventing the game being played as a backup. When those discs came out they were your only option. Now that TB uses backups and patched eboots it doesn't make sense that those discs can't be backed up and played somehow from internal/external. That's probably why they disabled Select+x functionality on TB games. Plus TB doesn't use the standard bdemu payloads, What I'm thinking is if that redirection is restored or redone that those games will work. I remember seeing something about a security sector on the discs a long time ago and can't find it anywhere. Can't remember if it was a standard Blu-Ray security sector or something that TB did that would have to be emulated/recreated

[DeathByGrogg]

I find it hard to see how you can get worked up over news like true blue releases. Buying True Blue is just trading Sony's DRM for some unnamed greedy evildoers DRM. And think about it, if you are going to spend money to play games, wouldn't you rather want the money going to the developers?

Buying a True Blue dongle is just giving money to people who have no entitlement to them whatsoever, and if they cared about anyone but themselves, they'd make whatever exploits they are using open source.

[Warning]

if they cared about anyone but themselves, they'd make whatever exploits they are using open source.

It is open source.
no_one explained how it is done and even gave blueprints.
TB dumps the eboots from memory after being decrypted using hardware to keep a charge to ram after shut down.

[CurlyBobb]

ah, reckoning, nice title tbh!

[brakk3n]

Why do you assume that my games that I have are stolen? I said the debug EBOOTs that the True Blue teams users were stolen, not my games. I buy my games just like I bought the Jak and Daxter collection because those three games are great. I have played and beaten all 3 for the PS2 and I want to try them out in HD. Would you like me to upload a scan of my store receipt? I keep all the receipts for games I buy. I don't pirate or steal games, the developers deserve my money. I just don't like Sony's policies and therefore I will not update my PS3 beyond 3.55 until they change a few things in their ToS and Privacy Policy.

Sure, and I'm mother Teresa. Anyway, I don't give two craps how you get your backups I just highlighted the "stolen" term due to the fact that your dismal claim that Paradox uses "stolen" eboots shouldn't be an issue as everyone has stolen something in their lives and in THIS SCENE the majority of PS3 backups ARE STOLEN - they are stolen copies via the net or copying from a RedBox/Rental Store. Just look at all the torrents, upload sites, ftps, groups and website dedicated to pirating. So the next time you use the word stolen like you're some shiny knight think about what you're saying. I'm sure you paid for every single copyrighted file on your computer and related media. Also, way to go to avoid the main points of the post.

It is open source.
no_one explained how it is done and even gave blueprints.
TB dumps the eboots from memory after being decrypted using hardware to keep a charge to ram after shut down.

What the hell is the big deal about open source? Sure it's nice and all, but who the hell are "we" to tell the "devs" their work "must be" open source? "OMG Nintendo didnzt makez new Zeldaz open sourez! Cry foulzzzzz!" Fact is people want the TrueBlue to be open source so they can use it without having to pay for it which isn't going to happen so at least when people bitch it's not open source they should admit they want to use it with all of those *laughs* stolen eboots *laughs* , but since it's not open source it's evil and so are the eboots. Let's see what those people do if/when those eboots can be used by them. I'm sure they will stand their ground and not use them to play 3.56+ games. Heh. They will be all over the eboots and/or methods derived by them to boot their backups like flies on shit.

I'd like to see more about this RAM dump theory as it sounds more believable then Paradox somehow magically getting eboots falling from the sky. Sounds better, but I'm not saying it's how it's done. We'll find out soon enough (due to the TB dongle dump ... hopefully).

[Denxing]

This might sound random, but I'm not buying a True Blue until I see a patch for Rocksmith. It's been sitting on my shelf for a while now just waiting to get used. Considering how old Rocksmith is and how TB aren't releasing patches for older games I can probably just assume I will never see a TB patch for Rocksmith. I'm not really for their practices but I can't argue with the results. Nobody else in the scene can accomplish what they are accomplishing. Even Math couldn't lie enough to make it sound like he accomplished as much as TB.

Whatever I guess. At this rate I'll never get to play games I've actually bought for the PS3.

[BahumatLord]

Just so everyone knows - if you have the PSN versions for the Monkey Island games then stay away from this one. It does a data install of temporary files every time you load the game instead of just doing a one time install. It is also a very long install process. I don't know exactly how long cuz the first time when it got stuck at 21% I just watched tv for a while, but this time I waited 10 minutes and it's still 21%. The extra artwork isn't worth the pain in the ass of the constant installation.

[ZrrWRI87Ho6eT43]

If you don't like Fox News then don't watch it.

If you don't like meat then don't eat it.

If you don't want your children playing violent video games then don't buy them.

If you don't like being a fatass then eat less and exercise.

If you don't like the TrueBlue then don't buy one.

Please though, stop bitching and trying to control other people when it's you that has the problem(s).

True, but still anyone who has some brain cells knows that TB is a filthy scam and deserves no support

[ch13696]

True, but still anyone who has some brain cells knows that TB is a filthy scam and deserves no support

I agree with this. There's a difference between not liking something because it doesn't interest you and not liking something because you know it's a rip off and it should be stopped.

[twig]

True, but still anyone who has some brain cells knows that TB is a filthy scam and deserves no support

I don't see why playing games for free is a scam - When you want everything for free, sure, it might feel like a scam.
The best signature/quote I've ever seen regarding this whole drama bizz is:
"For all the turds whining about a 59.99$ dongle, to play freebie games, should go buy themselves an Xbox 360 and spend +100 to get new games"

I dunno how accurate the +100 is, but it pretty much sums it up in my opinion.
Don't buy it, if you don't like it. Nobody is forcing you, expect your own wish to play newer titles (or titles you're unable to on cfw).

I think it's amazing how everybody is ONLY WHINING about f00kin games.
There is NO ONE coming here saying:
"Hey dudes. I dislike these TB jerk-a$$whole, dickwads, because I got tis' new epicxxx programzz which will only run under TBs 1337 DRM device"

If the only f00king problem is playing freebie games, go fingerbang yourself.
Else, cough up the money and be happy that STILL after ALL THIS TIME TB JB2 is STILL rocking solid!
Not even the Xbox 360 is free to exploit anymore (as from what I can gather).

Another thing/rant:
If you're really buying ALL of the new games I don't get what all your fuzz is about.
A new game is 40-59 bucks anyways. TB dongle is only 59 = You download ONE!!111oneone game it has already paid for it self.
If you REALLY was buying all of your new (and old) games - Geezuz!! I found a cheap secondhand Backwards Compatible Console for 80bucks!!!
Go buy a new system, at nearly the same price as the new games you're buying (*laughs* Buying.. yeah right) and be able to play your new aweeesomeeeee games (like lego lool) on your legal console until you get your FREE VERSION available to you.

Oh no wait... I forgot.. People complaining about there being no free backup copies for their cfw console, doesn't even have the original game in the first place - Let alone, got money for TB.

And on a final note:
You all was ****ing complaining like mad hounds with rabies, when Uncharted 3 was delayed.
GUESS ****ING WHAT! It was BUGGED as hell first time around! I'm sure you'd like the same thing to happen to both BAC, Final Fantasy or whatever game you guys are waiting to wank too.
C'mon you numbskulls!! In case, the TB team are testing their crap out, wouldn't you like a working copy rather than rushed one?

..... *sighs* Why even bother. I'm not even here to see you guys rage over my statements.
I don't need your guys input. My opinion is golden - And solid. My way or the high way (lol not really, but I'm on a roll here with stupid things to say).

Seriously think about it.

New game +50 dollars.
TB JB2 59.99$
SECONDHAND FULLY UPDATED CONSOLE 80-100bucks depending on accessories.

Oh btw, did I mention I got two PS3s, one legal and one with CFW, and soon I got a TB as well? MWAHA!
While you all sit and mumble in your dark corners, weeping about hurt feelings - I'm gonna go rock with my c*** out on two consoles One on, and one offline.
oooh did I mention, I'm gonna look for that BAC BL version as well, as people where talking about?

Who's ****ing dumb now?

[ch13696]

True, but still anyone who has some brain cells knows that TB is a filthy scam and deserves no support

I agree with this. There's a difference between not liking something because it doesn't interest you and not liking something because you know it's a rip off and it should be stopped.

[BahumatLord]

someone's got too much time on their hands or needs to put the bubble down once in a while. Anyways guys that Monkey Island release needs to be NUKED I decided to try it again after freeing up some space on my internal hard drive cuz I was close to the size of the game as being free. It's about 2 gigs and I freed up 10 to be safe. It's been installing for the last hour and is only at 25%. Like I said before it doesn't keep this install data so you would have to install every time you run the game. Stick with the PSN copies

[ch13696]

True, but still anyone who has some brain cells knows that TB is a filthy scam and deserves no support

I don't see why playing games for free is a scam - When you want everything for free, sure, it might feel like a scam.
The best signature/quote I've ever seen regarding this whole drama bizz is:
"For all the turds whining about a 59.99$ dongle, to play freebie games, should go buy themselves an Xbox 360 and spend +100 to get new games"

I dunno how accurate the +100 is, but it pretty much sums it up in my opinion.
Don't buy it, if you don't like it. Nobody is forcing you, expect your own wish to play newer titles (or titles you're unable to on cfw).

I think it's amazing how everybody is ONLY WHINING about f00kin games.
There is NO ONE coming here saying:
"Hey dudes. I dislike these TB jerk-a$$whole, dickwads, because I got tis' new epicxxx programzz which will only run under TBs 1337 DRM device"

If the only f00king problem is playing freebie games, go fingerbang yourself.
Else, cough up the money and be happy that STILL after ALL THIS TIME TB JB2 is STILL rocking solid!
Not even the Xbox 360 is free to exploit anymore (as from what I can gather).

Another thing/rant:
If you're really buying ALL of the new games I don't get what all your fuzz is about.
A new game is 40-59 bucks anyways. TB dongle is only 59 = You download ONE!!111oneone game it has already paid for it self.
If you REALLY was buying all of your new (and old) games - Geezuz!! I found a cheap secondhand Backwards Compatible Console for 80bucks!!!
Go buy a new system, at nearly the same price as the new games you're buying (*laughs* Buying.. yeah right) and be able to play your new aweeesomeeeee games (like lego lool) on your legal console until you get your FREE VERSION available to you.

Oh no wait... I forgot.. People complaining about there being no free backup copies for their cfw console, doesn't even have the original game in the first place - Let alone, got money for TB.

And on a final note:
You all was ****ing complaining like mad hounds with rabies, when Uncharted 3 was delayed.
GUESS ****ING WHAT! It was BUGGED as hell first time around! I'm sure you'd like the same thing to happen to both BAC, Final Fantasy or whatever game you guys are waiting to wank too.
C'mon you numbskulls!! In case, the TB team are testing their crap out, wouldn't you like a working copy rather than rushed one?

..... *sighs* Why even bother. I'm not even here to see you guys rage over my statements.
I don't need your guys input. My opinion is golden - And solid. My way or the high way (lol not really, but I'm on a roll here with stupid things to say).

Seriously think about it.

New game +50 dollars.
TB JB2 59.99$
SECONDHAND FULLY UPDATED CONSOLE 80-100bucks depending on accessories.

Oh btw, did I mention I got two PS3s, one legal and one with CFW, and soon I got a TB as well? MWAHA!
While you all sit and mumble in your dark corners, weeping about hurt feelings - I'm gonna go rock with my c*** out on two consoles One on, and one offline.
oooh did I mention, I'm gonna look for that BAC BL version as well, as people where talking about?

Who's ****ing dumb now?

If you have to pay $60 to play a game that you have legally bought on a firmware that you're comfortable with, then that sounds like a scam to me.

[BahumatLord]

UPDATE: The game will work fine quitting and then restarting until you turn off your PS3. Once you do that you're boned. TB/Paradox really screwed up on this one. You can't even see the game data in the game data utility at all. I even tried looking for the game data in the game folder using multiMAN's file manager and it's nowhere to be found. Also tried installing from internal hard drive hoping to at least increase install speed. It just made it worse

[cannibal20]

i guess what i was saying is that i personally wouldnt buy the true blue because new games are pretty wack...
i dont blame tb team for bad games, i blame the new generation of gamers and the crap they like/expect in the games they play.
i dont even blame the devs. lol.

but yeah, to each their own. i got an xbox 360 with a bent usb pin so it wasnt grounded. it wouldnt turn on. it was free. all it took was to bend the pin back. it works on live with LT+3.0 (bought ck3 lite and probe3) and the ihas burner burns the latest games.

i can play most games. i prefer ps3, and ill play the game on that if i can, if its new i play on 360.
theres only a select few games that are only on ps3 and also came out after 3.55, and i can totally handle not playing them

but yeah, its all opinion. i would get a true blue if they cracked final fantasy tho. but i guess i could just get it for 360

[BahumatLord]

Kingdoms of Amalur Reckoning does look promising. I only played about 20 minutes. I usually don't like these D&D style RPGs but it handles pretty well and at least has an interesting concept and design. Sadly it will sit on the back burner for me - I've got a few others I'm still playing, but that does make it 1 out of 9 for those counting. It's worth checking out for those into that kind of game

Edit: I would count Jak and Daxter too cuz it does look great remastered but since there's no new content I'd say 1.5 out of 9

[brakk3n]

True, but still anyone who has some brain cells knows that TB is a filthy scam and deserves no support

Nice random nick? 1st post? Anyone with some brain cells knows the only way to play select PS3 games on CFW v3.55 is to purchase the TrueBlue which does what it's advertised to do and there is no "scamming" going on. The entire "scam" debacle was created by a small group of people who dislike paying for anything then they spread lies and speculation disguised as "proof" with the help of a couple websites that are owned and moderated by very young adults and children who could not "control the devs" and "the scene" as they try to everyday of their pitiful existence - and this is what you base you "scamming" from? I posted earlier a more in-depth reason on why no one really knows how the TrueBlue works, but regardless it *does work* and you know what if you have original games and have CFW and think it's a ripoff to have to buy a TrueBlue to play games you claim to own you can always upgrade your firmware or buy a new or used PS3 as NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY A TRUEBLUE.

Did I mention how I like you random nick? Why not grow a pair and sign up with your nick you use on one of those other TrueBlue hater club pirating pre-school clubs/sites?