TeaM AC1D: TrueBlue a Scam

Published on 01-15-2012 08:56 AM

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TeaM AC1D has announced that they know the secret behind the True Blue dongle and in the process calling the True Blue a scam. They explain that no real code is used but rather files from higher firmware and some of these files are compatible with older firmware, although the ones that don't work need a little fixing. Below is an extract.

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Finally, after a long period of a scene that got riddled and raped by money hungry dongle suppliers we uncover this big scam and show you how things like the true blue dongle actually work.

First of all, non of the code used comes from the true blue creators. All files used come directly from higher PS3 firmwares.

All you need to do is place them in the right folder and thats it. Of course this does not work with all the procdure quiet games so easy, some of the 3.6 + games load right away, otheres need some fixing.

They are basically charging you money for a small custom firmware, i would call it the biggest scam the ps3 scene a lot has ever seen and we have seen.

This scam needs to be stopped and we should all join hands to finally put to end to all of this. Use this information and do what you have to do.

Now lets sit back, await a release of the method so we can get our own legally purchased games running on custom firmware.

Thanks to psx-scene members tulla and itzViolence for the news submission.

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134 Comments

ahou - 01-15-2012, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by vodcas

omfg, where are u kid, this is piracy. The whole point of piracy is illegal. So its not illegal, to be on kmeaw and playing games such as fifa11 or any other that works perfectly on cfw, but as soon as its a dongle that requires you to buy its suddenly illegal.

By this logic, downloading music, movies, and games is perfectly legal, as long as you don't pay for them.

Protip: It's not. The law doesn't care if you are selling copyrighted works, or giving them away. Both are illegal.

CrimsonSoul - 01-15-2012, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by brakk3n

So let me get this straight. It's okay to use pirated debug eboots to play your pirated games as long as no one is charging you anything, but .... it is not alright to pay for a product that uses pirated debug eboots to play your pirated games?

If you look at most other scenes you will find modchips and other similar products that use proprietary keys, code and/or were programmed using pirated software development kits and no one in this scenes are really making a fuss about it. Sure I think selling pirated eboots is immoral, but what about installing a CFW that uses keys that belong to Sony (think back to the DVD decryption key leak debacle).

My point is that no matter how you try to justify the legality and morality of the situation is that you can't (well, maybe besides a few lax countries). You can't take an anti-Trueblue stance and whip out the piracy card and you're pulling it from a stolen deck of cards.

So Ac1d has a theory on how the Trueblue works (proof anyone?) which I assume they would of figured a way to decrypt the Dongle. So Ac1d; where's these magic drivers? Where's some 3.7+ compatibility? You diss TB for not giving it away free, but you didn't figure it out, put a product together an successfully market and sell it to an audience that apparently doesn't want to wait for people like you who run their mouth about "free" solutions, but at the end of the day do to produce anything, but more hate and excuses.

True Blue is no where close to being like a mod-chip. No one I think is trying to justify the legality of this, it's the principle behind it.

Why are you so hell bent on saying True Blue is the best thing since sliced bread, is what I'm wondering? How are you any better than those saying True Blue is a scam and "hating on them", when you're downing Ac1d's theory? Why are you hating on Ac1d? You can try to justify your reasoning(s) all you want, but ultimately, they're attempt to succeed at doing something no one else has done is just going to come off as hating and excuses.

K@InEvIL - 01-15-2012, 08:04 PM
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Don't forget that buying from pirates doesn't make you less of a drone in your system.

Mack702 - 01-15-2012, 08:38 PM
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Team AC1D is a ****ing joke lol , Seriously I hope none of you believe their nonsense. This CFWProfit is a PS3news whore and honestly knows nothing. I am surprised this made front page on all news sites.

brakk3n - 01-15-2012, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by CrimsonSoul

True Blue is no where close to being like a mod-chip. No one I think is trying to justify the legality of this, it's the principle behind it.

You're correct in the fact that the TB dongle is technically not a modchip as they do function differently, but they both fit into the "modification" category and both allow you to boot duplicated games. Legality was mentioned so I commented on it and the principle behind it depends on your own outlook.

Why are you so hell bent on saying True Blue is the best thing since sliced bread, is what I'm wondering?

I'm not. I'm not even remotely interested in purchasing one, but not because of their supposed use of copyrighted material in the creation of their product.

How are you any better than those saying True Blue is a scam and "hating on them", when you're downing Ac1d's theory?

This cfwprophet guy; the spokesperson for AC1D hangs out on one of the oldest most corrupt scene sites on the Internet. He is a forum troll there. Very immature and seems to not have much knowledge about anything really. So I compared his lack of accomplishments versus his hatred for the Dongle against a working solution and this is making me question his theory. I mean, there's no proof behind his words. That's all. I do in-fact I hope he can get 3.7+ games working, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

Why are you hating on Ac1d? You can try to justify your reasoning(s) all you want, but ultimately, they're attempt to succeed at doing something no one else has done is just going to come off as hating and excuses.

See above.

whitedove - 01-15-2012, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Am4d

"non of the code used comes from the true blue creators. All files used come directly from higher PS3 firmwares."

If i'm not mistaken, doesn't this mean TB is using copyrighted Sony code?

if team ac1d is right any one who install a cfw is using atleast part of sony code if not all anyway unlike tb supposed partial use so that does not matter and if its true dont forget to thank cfwprofet and team ac1d for allowing sony to patch fw to block all new games use on lower fw
there not stupid they know what sony will do and still said anyway if its true that is i not saying the sun shines through tb arse but their is a reason code is kept secret to stop patches

ahou - 01-15-2012, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by whitedove

if team ac1d is right any one who install a cfw is using atleast part of sony code if not all

Not everyone. You can legally download the official .pup from sony, then patch it yourself. Downloading a prepatched .pup is indeed illegal.

Not that anyone cares, nor should they.

r1c0la - 01-15-2012, 09:54 PM
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this is all very interesting lol
the speculation is off the charts

we should see soon enough what's what

metalheart25 - 01-15-2012, 09:56 PM
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if that were the case then all games should boot should they not? without waiting for releases from paradox?
but as we know, this is not the case

No0bZiLLa - 01-15-2012, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bitsbubba

info on PS3DevWiki is sadly misconstrued as it's been edited by Anti-TB eussNL, before he edited it there was an post by a well known dev saying they weren't dev/debug EBOOTs I've also heard from other devs that they weren't so it's all in who you want to trust or listen to. Don't get me wrong PS3DevWiki is a great site (that I use all the time) it's just not all info you find there is going to be pure fact

but see if there werent no debugged eboots, then how was true blue able to break the encryption on the higher firmware eboots? they would have to of done that. either there are debug eboots, or someone has decrypted the higher firmware eboots, or someone is able to make the damn things, lol. i dunno, im not that far in with the devs yet, i would like to be so i could learn alot more, cause if there is one thing i hate, is mis-informing someone. and im not calling you a liar, but someone has figured something out and is not sharing it.

r1c0la - 01-15-2012, 10:05 PM
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the paradox aspect of this is really worth looking at closer IMO

is it possible that the legendary grp is somehow behind tb?

Shaitan - 01-15-2012, 10:32 PM
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I bought a dongle and couldn't care less if a free solution came out, I just hope they also give us a solution for getting the eboots because anyone involved ATM will definately not be releasing more.

modrobert - 01-15-2012, 10:38 PM
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Ever since the first original PSJB USB dongle for PS3 3.41 (which was later cloned to oblivion thanks to PSGroove and other projects), I've always felt like all this is some kind of "compromise" rather than a full hack.

To elaborate a little bit, maybe I'm old fashioned, but for me proper piracy is all about releasing game images as close to the original disc image as possible (eg. dumping games with 'dd if=/dev/cdrom of=game.iso' in PS3 Linux), not decrypting the images as was done with the first hack, and then back porting the new titles (requiring 3.7x and 4.0) as they do with True Blue which is just complicating things even further.

I think the way forward is (and always has been) to hack the Blu-ray drive, and successfully load 1:1 (well, as close as possible at least) BD-R copies. This will be the reference for future hacks, just as it is with Xbox 360. If you can run the games from hard drive in some form is irrelevant at this point, just get out of this debug decrypted hell hole which currently is the "ps3 scene".

No0bZiLLa - 01-15-2012, 10:41 PM
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well, like crash serious said. it is so close to being completley reversed it isnt funny. maybe its not the eboots we need to be studying, because we can download all the eboots easily for this true blue dongle, it has to be something on the true blue chip itself that is doing the magic. i dont understand how they can release an eboot that soley works for the dongle, if the magic happens on the dongle then why do they have specific eboots for the games? they have had to decrypt the eboots, then repack them to work only with that dongle and on 3.55 true blue CFW/rebug tb edition. or there is debugged eboots. like stated earlier, some games work without the dongle as long as you have the proper files in place. i wonder which games do work..... looks like its time to start another wiki, lol j/k

andre104623 - 01-15-2012, 11:17 PM
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Talk about scam's how about team acid's so called CFW that came out 14 months ago that ****ed up my ps3 so bad that I had to use service mode to get me back. I dont own a true blue but i do have a cobra usb and I have no problem paying 40 dollars to have PS1,PS2, and PSP on my ps3. And about the biggest scam's in the scene's history that would be PS downgrade I should know they beat me for 140 dollars (100 for the dongle and 40 for the downgrade) never came never got a refund

Neoathalon - 01-15-2012, 11:44 PM
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if this is true, all that's needed for non tb cfw is a pkg install to "update" those divers/sprx to ones that can properly decrypt 3.6+ games, or a manual replacement of said files.

heres to hoping the next few days will give us the info we need in order to do that.

K@InEvIL - 01-16-2012, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by andre104623

Talk about scam's how about team acid's so called CFW that came out 14 months ago that ****ed up my ps3 so bad that I had to use service mode to get me back. I dont own a true blue but i do have a cobra usb and I have no problem paying 40 dollars to have PS1,PS2, and PSP on my ps3. And about the biggest scam's in the scene's history that would be PS downgrade I should know they beat me for 140 dollars (100 for the dongle and 40 for the downgrade) never came never got a refund

That's one of the funniest comments i've ever seen. You actually condone piracy by paying for it, and besides that, you EXPECT some kind of 100% GUARANTEE in return , AS IF, was something morally righteous, original and entirely legal. You sir, deserve to be raped thoroughly and beyond. . With that way of thinking, your future certainly does not bode well. Piracy is piracy ( No 100% guarantee ). Pay for it more than you should if you're stupid or naive enough, but don't bash me for not flushing my money down the toilet. No one gives a shit about AcID, acidic, or the 9000 fakers that have been crawling around lately. This is not about taking sides, if there should be any side, that would be the true scene and the FREEDOM of sharing ideas and TRUE INFORMATION. I wonder if all of these faggots could ever pull the head out of their asses for a second and think what they are actually turning into?.

amp2006 - 01-16-2012, 01:29 AM
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is that all about because team AC1D failed to create a CFW 3.5x or what ?

modshroom128 - 01-16-2012, 02:48 AM
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I think it's hilarious that the only people defending true blue are the ones that bought it.

Buyers remorse much?

merath - 01-16-2012, 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay-Jay

To me this seems more like a rant than anything worth noting. If they now know what TB did, well then, I guess there is no reason they can't make it work for the rest who don't want to buy the dongle. But even if they do, TB did it first, in order for the rest to figure out what they had to do to get the job done. So give credit where credit is due.

I am not trying to look like a TB fan, I do use TB, but because I want to play new games--and got tired of the "waiting game". I do support progress, and I like to encourage it whenever possible, but lately the amounts of rants and the moaning about TB this and TB that, is getting a bit too uncomfortable around here to stay motivated.

I hope my words are taken as a light challenge to those that can hack. I now challenge them to see if they can make this work. Now that this Team (Ac1d) (supposedly) disclosed this "unknown to us" information.

I am hoping it doesn't instead lure a bigger avalanche of more irritated comments and undeserved chaos to this target. If it does, it won't surprise me. Yeah, like we need another TB rant thread--because a few dozen isn't enough! lol

Tick...Tock...Boom!

YOu know What? Youre right! **** this shit man I see no progress here so far, people are whining about the DRM Dongles but I see no ****ing progress about CFW or any shit related to that, just a bunch of useless posts about some hidden menu or hidden this or that **** his man I rather buy this thing and play the new games than wait for those who already left the scene! I`m not a TB bitch but Its better than no progress at all! Screw them devs who left