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  • Sony Rolls Out New PSN Terms of Service & User Agreement V8

    Upon logging on to the PSN today, users were greeted with the a new Terms of Agreement and Service from Sony. The new agreements deal heavily on modifications to your "Network" and "Console". It appears this is one of Sony's final steps before they start wielding their banhammer.



    Hello, for those of you people reading the news you have noticed that Sony has taken some bad footsteps by not encrypting PSN information Securily. Idk if this has to do with it but....

    I just tryed to log On and was brought up with the TOA Version 8. It talks alot about moddifying "NETWORK" and "Console" things so i'm guessing this is their final warning to everyone before the SUPER Banhammer hits.

    Below is a V7 to V8 PSN TOS comparison for those curious:

    --- v7.txt 2011-02-17 17:19:16.145507800 -0600
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    -Version 7.1 (December 7, 2010)
    +Version 8 (February 16, 2011)

    PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRE AGREEMENT AND INDICATE WHETHER YOU AGREE TO ITS TERMS BY CLICKING THE "ACCEPT" OR "DO NOT ACCEPT" BUTTON AT THE END OF THE AGREEMENT. YOUR ACCESS TO THE PLAYSTATION®NETWORK ("PSN") AND QRIOCITY™ SERVICES ("QRIOCITY") (COLLECTIVELY, "SONY ONLINE SERVICES") IS EXPRESSLY CONDITIONED UPON YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT. IF YOU CLICK THE "DO NOT ACCEPT" BUTTON, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ACCESS PSN OR QRIOCITY.

    @@ -80,7 +80,7 @@

    Upon SCEA's confirmation of your purchase, access to the purchased item will be made available to you through your Sony Online Services account that you used to purchase the item, until such time as SCEA removes the item. We encourage you to download or access your purchased item immediately after purchase. You bear all risk of loss for accessing your content, including completing the download of any content, ensuring that you have the necessary capabilities to view your content, including content provided at high resolution/definition, and for any loss of content you have downloaded, including any loss due to a file corruption or hard drive crash. You are solely responsible if you do not choose to download or access the content before it is removed and for ongoing storage and safekeeping of your content. SCEA is not obligated to provide you with replacement copies for any reason.

    -If you do not have sufficient funds in your wallet to make a purchase and you have previously entered your credit card information, we may automatically charge your credit card a minimum amount determined by SCEA ("Minimum Fee") to make the purchase, even if the Minimum Fee exceeds the cost of your purchase. Any difference between the Minimum Fee and the cost of the purchase will be credited to your wallet. Additional procedures apply to subscription purchases. Please read Section 10 ("SUBSCRIPTIONS") of this Agreement for details. Purchases of access to content or services are not refundable.
    +If you do not have sufficient funds in your wallet to make a purchase and you have previously entered your credit card information, we may automatically charge your credit card a minimum amount determined by SCEA ("Minimum Fee") to make the purchase, even if the Minimum Fee exceeds the cost of your purchase. Any difference between the Minimum Fee and the cost of the purchase will be credited to your wallet. Additional procedures apply to subscription purchases. Please read Section 11 ("SUBSCRIPTIONS") of this Agreement for details. Purchases of access to content or services are not refundable.

    7. GENERAL LICENSE RESTRICTIONS AND TERMS

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    Some Comic Content may not be identical with the original formatted content or versions of the same titled content not provided by SCEA.

    -10. SUBSCRIPTIONS
    +10. MUSIC CONTENT
    +
    +You may be given an opportunity to use the Music Unlimited powered by Qriocity™ music service ("Music Service") to receive music content ("Music Content") for your personal listening. The Music Service has certain features that are available without charge and other features that require you to pay fees in order for you to be able to use such features.
    +
    +The compilation of Music Content available for listening and the features available on the Music Service may vary at any time. Certain features of and Music Content available through the Music Service are made available to you based upon where the Music Service determines you are physically located based upon your IP address. If you choose to use certain features of Music Service, additional terms and limitations ("Additional Music Terms") may apply. Additional Music Terms or information about where to view Additional Music Terms are presented to you at either the time you choose to use those features or as part of the registration process necessary for you to use those features and you agree to be bound by Additional Music Terms.
    +
    +Some of the features of the Music Service permit you to listen to Music Content on some types of electronic devices that you must purchase separately ("Music Devices"). Your ability to use the Music Service on Music Devices may be dependent on you registering or providing certain information about Music Devices or being connected online to the Internet and the playback or streaming of Music Content may be interrupted if you do not register, provide certain information about your Music Devices or Music Devices do not remain continuously connected online to the Internet. Some of the Music Service features require you to install and operate applications on some Music Devices and failure to properly install and operate such applications will mean that you will not be able to use those features of the Music Service that rely upon such applications.
    +
    +Music Content made accessible may only be played on one Music Device at one time. The Music Service seeks to detect which Music Device is receiving streamed Music Content and some of your Music Devices may not receive streamed Music Content or may have a stream of Music Content terminated if Music Service detects that you are playing streamed Music Content on another one of your Music Devices.
    +
    +You may elect to use features of the Music Service that will result in your historical use of the Music Service and music files on your Music Devices being examined so that the Music Service can extract data about your use and other information about certain of your music files. This data is used to provide certain features of Music Service to improve your experience using the Music Service and you consent to such music files and music history being examined.
    +
    +No ownership rights in Music Content are transferred or assigned to you and all ownership rights in Music Content are retained by the owners of such rights. All rights granted to you regarding Music Content are granted to you personally and by license only. You are not given any rights to use any Music Content for any ringtones or in a manner that also require a synchronization or public performance license with respect to the underlying musical composition of that Music Content. You are prohibited from reproducing, modifying, publicly broadcasting, repurposing or distributing any of the Music Content.
    +
    +11. SUBSCRIPTIONS

    SCEA may offer you the opportunity to purchase subscriptions that provide access to particular products or services for a specified period of time. Subscriptions renew automatically unless you cancel the subscription. The cost of each subscription will automatically be deducted from your wallet at the beginning of each subscription term without further notice to you. Subscriptions may not be shared among any PSN accounts, including the Master Account with its associated Sub Accounts.

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    If you no longer wish to receive your subscription, you must cancel your subscriptions via PSN account management or contact SCEA's customer service at http://www.us.playstation.com/Corporate/ContactUs or the address located at the end of this Agreement. Cancellation will take effect at the beginning of the next subscription term. Except as otherwise stated in this Agreement, upon cancellation of your subscription or termination of the Master Account or Sub Account, you will not receive a refund or credit for any subscriptions for which you have paid. Further, you will not be able to access content or services provided in your subscription except as permitted by SCEA. Content which you downloaded onto a device and which was provided to you through a subscription at no additional cost beyond the subscription price may not be accessible. Game play information, including trophies earned during a trial offer, promotional period or subscription term may not be available.

    -11. MAINTENANCE AND UPGRADES
    +12. MAINTENANCE AND UPGRADES

    From time to time, it may become necessary for SCEA to provide certain content to you to ensure that Sony Online Services and content offered through Sony Online Services, your PlayStation®3 computer entertainment system, the PSP® (PlayStation® Portable) system or other SCEA-authorized hardware is functioning properly in accordance with SCEA guidelines. Some content may be provided automatically without notice when you sign in. Such content may include automatic updates or upgrades which may change your current operating system, cause a loss of data or content or cause a loss of functionalities or utilities. Such upgrades or updates may be provided for system software for your PlayStation®3 computer entertainment system, the PSP® (PlayStation® Portable) system, or other SCEA-authorized hardware. Access or use to any system software is subject to terms and conditions of a separate end user license agreement found at http://www.us.playstation.com/termsofuse. You authorize SCEA to provide such content and agree that SCEA shall not be liable for any damages, loss of data or loss of functionalities arising from provision of such content or maintenance services. It is recommended that you regularly back up any archivable data located on the hard disk.

    -12. USER MATERIAL AND INFORMATION
    +13. USER MATERIAL AND INFORMATION

    You may have an opportunity to permit SCEA to share with third parties information relating to your participation in Sony Online Services, including your sign-in ID, friend's list, communications, purchase history and game play history ("Information"). If you choose to do so, use or distribution of your Information on any third party website or service may be subject solely to that third party's terms of service and privacy policy. Before electing to share your Information, please be aware of the kinds of Information you will be sharing and review the third party's terms of service and privacy policy. SCEA may also provide your Information to its subsidiaries or affiliates and vendors in order to provide you the Sony Online Services. You hereby authorize SCEA to use, distribute, copy, display, and publish your Information for any legitimate business purpose, including tournaments and ranking, without payment to you. In addition, you will have the option to create, post, stream or transmit content such as pictures, photographs, game related materials, or other information through PSN to share with others ("User Material"), provided no rights of others are violated. To the extent permitted by law, you authorize and license SCEA a royalty free and perpetual right to use, distribute, copy, modify, display, and publish your User Material for any reason without any restrictions or payments to you or any third parties. You further agree that SCEA may sublicense its rights to any third party, including its affiliates and subsidiaries. You hereby waive all claims, including any moral rights, against SCEA, its affiliates and subsidiaries for SCEA or any third party's use of User Material to the extent permitted by applicable law. By creating, posting, streaming, or transmitting any User Material, you represent and warrant that you have the appropriate rights to use, create, post, distribute, and transmit User Material and to grant SCEA the foregoing license. You further agree to cooperate with SCEA in resolving any dispute that may arise from your Information or User Material. SCEA reserves the right to remove any Information or User Material at its sole discretion.

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    Through your use of Sony Online Services, you may be provided with information about SCEA's or a third party's products or services. This information includes, but is not limited to, promotions, advertisements, product placements or marketing materials within Sony Online Services or a game, irrespective of whether the game is connected with or provided through PSN. You agree that SCEA and its partners and providers may collect information regarding your activities, access, or game play, and may use and distribute such information subject to the terms of SCEA's Privacy Policy or the policies of third parties where applicable. SCEA does not endorse any of the third party products or services advertised, promoted or marketed.

    -13. TERMINATION / CANCELLATION
    +14. TERMINATION / CANCELLATION

    If SCEA determines in its sole discretion that you or your associated Sub Accounts have violated any term of this Agreement, the Usage Terms, or any other terms and conditions connected with Sony Online Services or have otherwise injured or damaged the Sony Online Services community, SCEA may take all actions to protect its interests, including termination or suspension of your Sony Online Services account (both the Master Account and any associated Sub Accounts), automatic removal or blockage of content, implementation of upgrades or devices intended to discontinue unauthorized use, or reliance on any other remedial efforts as necessary to remedy the violation. If the violation is in connection with content that you or your Sub Accounts have accessed, you must immediately cease use of such content and delete all copies from all of your devices. Upon termination of your account for any reason, you will not receive a refund for items (including subscriptions and pre-paid products or services), value accumulated on in-game items or any unused balance in your wallet except as required by law or as expressly provided in this Agreement. Any game ranking or scores, or information in connection with Sony Online Services will not be retained or accessible by you or your associated Sub Accounts. In some situations, we may suspend or terminate your Master Account, but permit you to retain your associated Sub Accounts. If you do not terminate your Sub Accounts, you will be liable for all their acts. You may not alter any of the settings on your Master Account, including parental control settings placed on your Sub Accounts prior to the termination or suspension of your Master Account. Your Sub Accounts will be permitted to use the remaining funds in your wallet provided that the Sub Account has not exceeded the limit you placed on the Sub Account. Additionally, you will not receive further correspondence from SCEA about your Sub Accounts, including purchases made by your Sub Accounts. SCEA reserves the right to bring legal action and to participate in any government or private legal action or investigation relating to your conduct, which may require the disclosure of your information. Unless as otherwise stated in this Agreement, SCEA, at its sole discretion, may indefinitely suspend, or discontinue any and all online access to content at any time, including for maintenance service or upgrades, without prior notice or liability.

    -14. GENERAL LEGAL
    +15. GENERAL LEGAL

    SCEA, at its sole discretion, may modify the terms of this Agreement at any time, including imposing a fee for creating PSN accounts. By accepting this Agreement or by accessing Sony Online Services, you agree to be bound by all current terms of the Agreement. To access a printable, current copy of this Agreement, go to http://www.us.playstation.com/termsofuse or http://www.qriocity.com on your personal computer. If material changes to this Agreement are made, you will be notified by e-mail or a posting as you sign in to Sony Online Services. If necessary, you will be given additional choices regarding such change(s). Your continued use of Sony Online Services, including use of your associated Sub Account(s), will signify your acceptance of these changes. If you do not accept material changes to the Agreement, then you may contact us to terminate this Agreement and your account(s). If there are funds in your wallet as of the date SCEA terminates your account, those funds may be refunded to you and you will not be able to access Sony Online Services.

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    Except as otherwise required by applicable law, this Agreement shall be construed and interpreted in accordance with the laws of the State of California applying to contracts fully executed and performed within the State of California. Except as otherwise required by applicable law, both parties submit to personal jurisdiction in California and further agree that any dispute arising from or relating to this Agreement shall be brought in a court within San Mateo County, California. In the event of litigation to enforce any part of this Agreement, all costs and fees, including attorney's fees, shall be paid by the non-prevailing party to the extent permitted by applicable law.

    -15. WARRANTY DISCLAIMER AND LIMITATION OF LIABILITY
    +16. WARRANTY DISCLAIMER AND LIMITATION OF LIABILITY

    -No warranty is given about the quality, functionality, availability or performance of Sony Online Services, or any content or service offered on or through Sony Online Services. All services and content are provided "AS IS" and "AS AVAILABLE" with all faults. SCEA does not warrant that the service and content will be uninterrupted, error-free or without delays. In addition to the limitations of liability in Sections 1, 2, 11 and 13 of this Agreement, SCEA expressly disclaims any implied warranty of merchantability, warranty of fitness for a particular purpose and warranty of non-infringement. SCEA assumes no liability for any inability to purchase, access, download or use any content, data or service. YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE RECOURSE IN THE EVENT OF ANY DISSATISFACTION WITH OR DAMAGE ARISING FROM SONY ONLINE SERVICES OR IN CONNECTION WITH THIS AGREEMENT AND SCEA'S MAXIMUM LIABILITY UNDER THIS AGREEMENT OR WITH RESPECT TO YOUR USE OF OR ACCESS TO SONY ONLINE SERVICES SHALL BE LIMITED TO YOUR DIRECT DAMAGES, NOT TO EXCEED THE UNUSED FUNDS IN YOUR WALLET AS OF THE DATE OF TERMINATION. EXCEPT AS STATED IN THE FOREGOING SENTENCE, SCEA EXCLUDES ALL LIABILITY FOR ANY LOSS OF DATA, DAMAGE CAUSED TO YOUR SOFTWARE OR HARDWARE, AND ANY OTHER LOSS OR DAMAGE SUFFERED BY YOU OR ANY THIRD PARTY, WHETHER DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL AND HOWEVER ARISING, AS A RESULT OF ACCESSING OR DOWNLOADING ANY CONTENT TO YOUR PLAYSTATION®3 COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM, THE PSP® (PLAYSTATION®PORTABLE) SYSTEM, BRAVIA® TELEVISION, SONY BLU-RAY® DISC PLAYER OR ANY HARDWARE DEVICE, OR USING OR ACCESSING SONY ONLINE SERVICES. UNLESS THIS PROVISION IS UNENFORCEABLE IN YOUR JURISDICTION, THE FOREGOING LIMITATIONS, EXCLUSIONS AND DISCLAIMERS SHALL APPLY TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW, EVEN IF ANY REMEDY FAILS ITS ESSENTIAL PURPOSE. Internet Service Provider fees are the full responsibility of the user. Authorized Devices sold separately.
    +No warranty is given about the quality, functionality, availability or performance of Sony Online Services, or any content or service offered on or through Sony Online Services. All services and content are provided "AS IS" and "AS AVAILABLE" with all faults. SCEA does not warrant that the service and content will be uninterrupted, error-free or without delays. In addition to the limitations of liability in Sections 1, 2, 12 and 14 of this Agreement, SCEA expressly disclaims any implied warranty of merchantability, warranty of fitness for a particular purpose and warranty of non-infringement. SCEA assumes no liability for any inability to purchase, access, download or use any content, data or service. YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE RECOURSE IN THE EVENT OF ANY DISSATISFACTION WITH OR DAMAGE ARISING FROM SONY ONLINE SERVICES OR IN CONNECTION WITH THIS AGREEMENT AND SCEA'S MAXIMUM LIABILITY UNDER THIS AGREEMENT OR WITH RESPECT TO YOUR USE OF OR ACCESS TO SONY ONLINE SERVICES SHALL BE LIMITED TO YOUR DIRECT DAMAGES, NOT TO EXCEED THE UNUSED FUNDS IN YOUR WALLET AS OF THE DATE OF TERMINATION. EXCEPT AS STATED IN THE FOREGOING SENTENCE, SCEA EXCLUDES ALL LIABILITY FOR ANY LOSS OF DATA, DAMAGE CAUSED TO YOUR SOFTWARE OR HARDWARE, AND ANY OTHER LOSS OR DAMAGE SUFFERED BY YOU OR ANY THIRD PARTY, WHETHER DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL AND HOWEVER ARISING, AS A RESULT OF ACCESSING OR DOWNLOADING ANY CONTENT TO YOUR PLAYSTATION®3 COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM, THE PSP® (PLAYSTATION®PORTABLE) SYSTEM, BRAVIA® TELEVISION, SONY BLU-RAY® DISC PLAYER OR ANY HARDWARE DEVICE, OR USING OR ACCESSING SONY ONLINE SERVICES. UNLESS THIS PROVISION IS UNENFORCEABLE IN YOUR JURISDICTION, THE FOREGOING LIMITATIONS, EXCLUSIONS AND DISCLAIMERS SHALL APPLY TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW, EVEN IF ANY REMEDY FAILS ITS ESSENTIAL PURPOSE. Internet Service Provider fees are the full responsibility of the user. Authorized Devices sold separately.

    -16. PHOTOSENSITIVITY NOTICE
    +17. PHOTOSENSITIVITY NOTICE

    A very small percentage of individuals may experience epileptic seizures or blackouts when exposed to certain light patterns or flashing lights. Exposure to certain patterns or backgrounds on a television screen or when playing content such as video games may trigger epileptic seizures or blackouts in these individuals. These conditions may trigger previously undetected epileptic symptoms or seizures in persons who have no history of prior seizures or epilepsy. If you, or anyone in your family has an epileptic condition or has had seizures of any kind, consult your physician before playing. IMMEDIATELY DISCONTINUE use and consult your physician before resuming play. If you or your child experience any of the following health problems or symptoms: (i) dizziness; (ii) altered vision; (iii) eye or muscle twitches; (iv) loss of awareness; (v) disorientation; or (vi) seizures or any involuntary movement or convulsion. RESUME PLAY ONLY ON APPROVAL OF YOUR PHYSICIAN.

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    Stop using the content or Sony Online Services immediately if you experience any of the following symptoms: lightheadedness, nausea, or a sensation similar to motion sickness, discomfort or pain in the eyes, ears, hands arms, or any other part of the body. If the condition persists, consult a doctor.

    -17. 3D DEVICE USE NOTICE
    +18. 3D DEVICE USE NOTICE

    Some people may experience discomfort (such as eye strain, eye fatigue or nausea) while watching 3D video images or playing stereoscopic 3D games on 3D televisions. If you experience such discomfort, you should immediately discontinue use of your television until the discomfort subsides.

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    The vision of young children (especially those under six years old) is still under development. SCEA recommends that you consult your doctor (such as a pediatrician or eye doctor) before allowing young children to watch 3D video images or play stereoscopic 3D games. Adults should supervise young children to ensure they follow the recommendations listed above.

    -PLEASE CONTACT SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT AMERICA LLC CONSUMER SERVICES FOR FURTHER INFORMATION OR QUESTIONS VIA OUR WEBSITE http://www.us.playstation.com/Corporate/ContactUs OR BY PHONE AT 877-971-7669 OR AT THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS: SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT AMERICA LLC CONSUMER SERVICES DEPARTMENT, P.O. BOX 5888, SAN MATEO, CALIFORNIA, 94402-0888, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. YOU MAY ALSO CONTACT US FOR FURTHER INFORMATION ON QRIOCITY VIA OUR WEBSITE http://www.qriocity.com OR BY PHONE TOLL FREE AT 888-868-1986 , TOLL CALL AT 239-768-7669 OR AT THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS QRIOCITY CONSUMER SERVICE, SONY NETWORK ENTERTAINMENT INTERNATIONAL LLC, 6080 CENTER DRIVE, SUITE 1000, LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, 90045, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
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    +PLEASE CONTACT SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT AMERICA LLC CONSUMER SERVICES FOR FURTHER INFORMATION OR QUESTIONS VIA OUR WEBSITE http://www.us.playstation.com/Corporate/ContactUs OR BY PHONE AT 877-971-7669 OR AT THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS: SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT AMERICA LLC CONSUMER SERVICES DEPARTMENT, P.O. BOX 5888, SAN MATEO, CALIFORNIA, 94402-0888, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. YOU MAY ALSO CONTACT US FOR FURTHER INFORMATION ON QRIOCITY VIA OUR WEBSITE http://www.qriocity.com OR BY PHONE TOLL FREE AT 888-868-1986 , TOLL CALL AT 239-768-7669 OR AT THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS QRIOCITY CONSUMER SERVICE, SONY NETWORK ENTERTAINMENT INTERNATIONAL LLC, 6080 CENTER DRIVE, SUITE 1000, LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, 90045, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
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    Comments 91 Comments
    1. master god-PSG's Avatar
      master god-PSG -
      FIRST!!!! ye, i got the same thing and i accepted even if i have a CFW.
    1. gsharpshooter80's Avatar
      gsharpshooter80 -
      ehh just agreed and started playing lol but it was only like a round of cod, doubt this helps but I tried wiping my history then replacing it with ps3 ninja history replacement and then went onto rogero manager and put everything on safe mode then replaced history again and then logged onto psn with the game loaded from rogero onto the xmb, again doubt it helps but w/e I have Sony's killzone 3 and soon Crysis 2 will follow and then infamous 3, so on so forth, **** you Sony I'm glad I sold all ur games today and pirated the shit out of b4 they were sold ;-)
    1. joey325-PSG's Avatar
      joey325-PSG -
      **** PSN! I think we should all together STOP using PSN and keep are CFW! We need to bring PSN DOWN!
    1. blueclouduk-PSG's Avatar
      blueclouduk-PSG -
      There are two big things I pick up from the new terms and conditions:

      1, Sony can now upgrade your firmware without your express permission. If, during the upgrade, something goes wrong and your system is left bricked, it's YOUR fault, not Sony's.

      2, Sony are reserving the right to charge for PSN IDs. That sounds very much like the precursor to a Microsoft-esque service where not only must a user have Official Firmware but also pay to access the network.

      As a response to the first point, that has Class Action written all over it. OFW 3.56 needed a super-fast update as many OFW users with updated hard-drives were unable to use their PS3 properly. It's scary to think that Sony believe they now have a "get out of jail free card" in the highly likely event that a similar event happens a third time.

      As for the second point, Microsoft have only ever managed to ban consoles that had been modden from on-line gaming. PS3 owners using custom firmware don't care about using their hardware on-line, if they did then they would be using OFW.

      PS. Just noticed that Sony refer to the PS3 as a "PlayStation®3 computer entertainment system", that should be of interest to GeoHot and his attorneys.
    1. drgnmstr584's Avatar
      drgnmstr584 -
      you know whats really stupid and wierd at the same time? sony is making a huge deal out of the PS3 when yet the PSP is a hackable system why wouldn't they start doing something about that. honestly sony really needs to back off technically we are not pirateing software we are just copying it to our hard drives so what big deal they are not losing a lot... well maybe a little money from game sales but what about addons.
    1. Firebuble-PSG's Avatar
      Firebuble-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by blueclouduk View Post
      Sony can now upgrade your firmware without your express permission. If, during the upgrade, something goes wrong and your system is left bricked, it's YOUR fault, not Sony's.

      As a response to the first point, that has Class Action written all over it. OFW 3.56 needed a super-fast update as many OFW users with updated hard-drives were unable to use their PS3 properly. It's scary to think that Sony believe they now have a "get out of jail free card" in the highly likely event that a similar event happens a third time.
      that's illegal... they can not handle private property without a prior notice... i think that some lawyer can win a lot of money if for any reason sony upgrade any sistem out there
    1. Daioz-PSG's Avatar
      Daioz-PSG -
      Finally psn ****ing is over and people can go back to work on better things.

      If you hack your console you shouldn't expect online unless you are on a kids toy console like the wii. Fact.
      Now get the **** out.
    1. Alexster101's Avatar
      Alexster101 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Daioz View Post
      Finally psn ****ing is over and people can go back to work on better things.

      If you hack your console you shouldn't expect online unless you are on a kids toy console like the wii. Fact.
      Now get the **** out.
      LOL u stupud ass, it will never be over the minds of the hackers are too smart. we will get back on the PSN. All we need is TIME
    1. phil410-PSG's Avatar
      phil410-PSG -
      Class action Lawsuit coming on?? I don't agree to any of the new terms, so I think they should have 2 buy back everyone's PS3 that doesn't agree 2 new rules in the middle of the game...
    1. Alexster101's Avatar
      Alexster101 -
      Quote Originally Posted by master god View Post
      FIRST!!!! ye, i got the same thing and i accepted even if i have a CFW.
      Can u tell us how it goes, am thinking about doing it as well
    1. Alexster101's Avatar
      Alexster101 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Firebuble View Post
      that's illegal... they can not handle private property without a prior notice... i think that some lawyer can win a lot of money if for any reason sony upgrade any sistem out there
      Yo I think your right my cuzen is a lawyer and ill let him know about this. you have a great point
    1. satanrules666-PSG's Avatar
      satanrules666-PSG -
      Thanks sony so your telling me sony i payed 400 dollars for you to hack my internet and own my console ill see you in court you nazi scum i hope america nukes your slit eyed asses

      p.s i am only racist towards sony

      also it is illegal to hack into my network and change my network settings on my personal computer as well as my playstation 3 if its connected to my network through my isp which also violates my isps terms sony

      you will prob see many isps taking sony to court if this gets out

      also last night my playstations 3 fan went nuts i wouldnt be suprised if sony tried to kill me by setting my room on fire i am starting to think they are run by the triad
    1. Thorn's Avatar
      Thorn -
      like hell i am gonna read that some one just quote me the part thats important
    1. gamer2020's Avatar
      gamer2020 -
      CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST SONY FOR FALSE ADVERTISEMENT:
      1. ADVERTISED THE PS3 HAD OTHER OS CAPABILITIES
      2. THE PS3 IS UNACKABLE...WELL ITS HACKED NOW
      3. ONLINE GAMING CAPABILITIES...WELL IF WE GET BANNED, THERE IS NO ONLINE GAMING
    1. gamer2020's Avatar
      gamer2020 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Alexster101 View Post
      Yo I think your right my cuzen is a lawyer and ill let him know about this. you have a great point
      dude just accpet nothing going on yet...i accepted logged on then logged off then logged right back in played cod bo for 2 hours logged off logged right back in! piece of cake
    1. Alexster101's Avatar
      Alexster101 -
      Quote Originally Posted by satanrules666 View Post
      Thanks sony so your telling me sony i payed 400 dollars for you to hack my internet and own my console ill see you in court you nazi scum i hope america nukes your slit eyed asses

      p.s i am only racist towards sony

      also it is illegal to hack into my network and change my network settings on my personal computer as well as my playstation 3 if its connected to my network through my isp which also violates my isps terms sony

      you will prob see many isps taking sony to court if this gets out

      also last night my playstations 3 fan went nuts i wouldnt be suprised if sony tried to kill me by setting my room on fire i am starting to think they are run by the triad
      So what are you saying, should we accept the new terms, so when sony gets to "FIX" are firmware and bricks are console while doing that, we get to take sony to court right?
    1. gamer2020's Avatar
      gamer2020 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Alexster101 View Post
      Can u tell us how it goes, am thinking about doing it as well
      dude just accpet nothing going on yet...i accepted logged on then logged off then logged right back in played cod bo for 2 hours logged off logged right back in! piece of cake
    1. caf's Avatar
      caf -
      What about all the households who have minor children agreeing to these TOS? theres no proof an adult actually ever agreed, and sony could be violating the rights of minors.

      as far as i can see from you pointed out, some of the changes relate to the new music service, and a disclaimer for 3D tv because apparently 3D technology can ruin the eyes of children who are still developing.
    1. poderpelon's Avatar
      poderpelon -
      yes yes yes

      snoy please kick some asses

      Banhammer.jpg

      dont allow piracy + cheating
    1. Alexster101's Avatar
      Alexster101 -
      Quote Originally Posted by gsharpshooter80 View Post
      ehh just agreed and started playing lol but it was only like a round of cod, doubt this helps but I tried wiping my history then replacing it with ps3 ninja history replacement and then went onto rogero manager and put everything on safe mode then replaced history again and then logged onto psn with the game loaded from rogero onto the xmb, again doubt it helps but w/e I have Sony's killzone 3 and soon Crysis 2 will follow and then infamous 3, so on so forth, **** you Sony I'm glad I sold all ur games today and pirated the shit out of b4 they were sold ;-)
      LOL Nice. i hate $ONY
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