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  • Sony Issues DMCA Notices to Gitorious - Website Says Enough

    It seems Sony isn't done taking on PS3 scene devs. Their latest legal demonstration, comes in the form of taking on Norwegian code repository site, Gitorious. Sony is demanding PS3 developers work be taken down from the site. However, Gitorious doesn't seem to be complying as easily as previous websites have.

    We reported last week, that Sony had issued Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA) notices to several websites, which were hosting PS3 scene developer's projects. The main site issued DMCA notices was gitHub, a site commonly used by programmers, to host code for various programming projects. Most PS3 scene developers work was removed from gitHub, so they moved their projects to a competing site called Gitorious.

    Well, it seems Sony also took notice, spotting that devs were moving their projects over to Gitorious. Sony recently issued Gitorious DMCA notices, stating to take down these dev's projects. However, here's the twist, Gitorious isn't blindly complying, unlike other sites which have. Gitorious temporarily removed the initial content in question, but notified Sony that they would not comply with further requests, unless issued Norwegian court orders.

    It will be interesting to see how this pans out between Sony and Gitorious. Sony may choose not to pursue the site any further, instead focusing on other sites, ones which may give in easier.

    Gitorious's Official Statement:

    An update on the Sony DMCA issue

    We have just sent an email to Sony’s legal attournes in reply to their DMCA takedown notice sent to us yesterday:
    Re: Demand for removal of claimed copyright infringing content from Gitorious.org


    This is in reply to your notification of United States Copyright Law Violations at Listed URLs, dated February 1st 2011. As we confirmed via email yesterday, the content was taken down from gitorious.org yesterday at 3.18PM CET.


    Your claim made reference to US law, which is not applicable in Norway. When removing the content from our server placed in Norway, we did so to avoid being in violation with Norwegian law, to the degree that Norwegian and US copyright law is compatible.


    However, it is unreasonable, and in conflict with basic legal principles, to assume someone as guilty until proven innocent. Allowing any third party to demand the removal of content on gitorious.org based on unproven claims of copyright infringement would assume any gitorious.org user would need to prove his innoncence under Norwegian law. This is unacceptable to us.


    Our Infringement Notice Policy (http://en.gitorious.org/infringement_policy/) requires any Infringement Notice to include:
    - An identification of the intellectual property right claimed to have been infringed


    Since your letter of yesterday contained no reference to Norwegian law we kindly ask that you prove that the content is in fact in violation of Norwegian law. We will not act on further Infringement Notices related to this content until SCEA provides a Norwegian court order that deems the content in question as being in violation of Norwegian law.
    Gitorious wants to make it absolutely clear that we have no agenda relating to the repositories in question. Our initial response to this notice was motivated by the fact that Gitorious could possibly be held accountable for not responding should this content be deemed illegal (with reference to “Ehandelsloven” §18). We object deeply to any violation of the basic legal principle of being innocent until proven guilty. This is why we have passed the ball back to Sony.


    We hope you understand that it is not in Gitorious’, or the majority of its users’, best interest to pick this fight. We don’t have the resources nor necessary domain knowledge to assess the legality of all of our projects, which is why we have terms of service that state that users carry this responsibility.
    Source: Gitorious Blog
    Thanks cloud for the news tip
    Comments 30 Comments
    1. Thorn's Avatar
      Thorn -
      good to see some companys simply not bowing down to big corperations
    1. Marine337's Avatar
      Marine337 -
      good job that psgroove knows how to copy and paste from ngu!
    1. grandy's Avatar
      grandy -
      Quote Originally Posted by Marine337 View Post
      good job that psgroove knows how to copy and paste from ngu!
      copy and paste from ngu? First I don't even know what ngu stands for. Second, it actually looks like we wrote an original piece. Followed by a copy and paste of Gitorious's official statement which is located on Gitorious's official blog.
    1. AROAH-PSG's Avatar
      AROAH-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by grandy View Post
      First I don't even know what ngu stands for.
      NGU: Nongonococcal urethritis
    1. Deathnetworks's Avatar
      Deathnetworks -
      based on unproven claims of copyright infringement would assume any gitorious.org user would need to prove his innoncence under Norwegian law. This is unacceptable to us.

      SNAP!

      seems people always forget that its innocent until proven guilty not the reverse
    1. dlcrook-PSG's Avatar
      dlcrook-PSG -
      Grandy, I think its NextGenUpdates, but the only time I saw this article posted anywhere today was on ps3hax. I tried to run it earlier, but the site wouldn't take my post or at least it seemed that way.
    1. dlcrook-PSG's Avatar
      dlcrook-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by Marine337 View Post
      good job that psgroove knows how to copy and paste from ngu!
      Not any better then your speed typing. What? To lazy to use some caps? Copy & Paste must be an advanced tool for you then!
    1. hemmer's Avatar
      hemmer -
      I guess sony thinks they control the entire world, I guess now they will have to hire MORE lawyers in norway if they play to do anything about it. sony just wasting more and more money on something they have no control over and never will...

      Just lube up sit back and take it like a man sony its a battle you will not win.

      Also they fellas at gitorious must not know much about usa because now days you are guilty and must prove yourself innocent. Innocent until proven guilty is a joke, anyone who still believes that lives in lala land.
    1. grandy's Avatar
      grandy -
      Quote Originally Posted by dlcrook View Post
      Grandy, I think its NextGenUpdates, but the only time I saw this article posted anywhere today was on ps3hax. I tried to run it earlier, but the site wouldn't take my post or at least it seemed that way.
      It was moderating your post, sometimes if the system thinks it looks like spam, it will moderate a post. The posts were in here.
    1. linuzo-PSG's Avatar
      linuzo-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by hemmer View Post
      I guess sony thinks they control the entire world, I guess now they will have to hire MORE lawyers in norway if they play to do anything about it. sony just wasting more and more money on something they have no control over and never will...

      Just lube up sit back and take it like a man sony its a battle you will not win.

      Also they fellas at gitorious must not know much about usa because now days you are guilty and must prove yourself innocent. Innocent until proven guilty is a joke, anyone who still believes that lives in lala land.

      I was arrested and spend 45 days in jail because one person said I did something well after 30 days they caught the person who actually did it and because I didnt have $7500 to throw away to a bail bondsmen I had to sit in jail and even wait an extra 15 days after they caught the real person to be able to get in front of a judge and be released. meanwhile losing my house and job because I was in jail for so long and my wife couldnt pay out bills by herself.

      If they wouldnt have caught the person I would have been facing 5 years in jail... innocent until proven guilty... right.

      What did i get for my wrongful imprisonment? nothing. can I sue the police because of it? Nope its against the law because they had "probable cause" to believe I had done the crime.

      Welcome to North America
    1. One2thr456svn's Avatar
      One2thr456svn -
      Quote Originally Posted by Marine337 View Post
      good job that psgroove knows how to copy and paste from ngu!
      Grandy, just a word...I really don't care if this site cut, copy's and/or paste. This is my site for all things PS3. (i may visit another site to download some iso's from the net...lol ) You guys do a great job getting the info to us and I think the site is laid out very well.. Thank You
    1. lyricist's Avatar
      lyricist -
      Cinema Haven also got hit earlier today for their ps3 jailbreak tutorial videos.
    1. Goblom's Avatar
      Goblom -
      i tried to post this on the forums but it kept saying it will be checked and looked over by the mods and then they will put it up... WTF????????
    1. David9602's Avatar
      David9602 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Marine337 View Post
      good job that psgroove knows how to copy and paste from ngu!
      ngu always post these after ps grove puts it up so other way around
    1. SATMASTER's Avatar
      SATMASTER -
      Maybe Sony wants to sue all of us for commenting on the situation too. Why not, they're going after everyone else. Because of all this nonsense Sony's going to have to sell the next gen PS4 for a 1000 bucks if they plan on going after everyone in the world! Heh.

      Nice to see they had a backbone. Wonder what country will be the next "host" for the dev's projects... Heh.
    1. daboijordan's Avatar
      daboijordan -
      Help fight sony
      http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/son...ave-purchased/
      spread the word
    1. satanrules666-PSG's Avatar
      satanrules666-PSG -
      The Nazi war machine Sony is on the move again it seems.

      I am also wondering how much the PS4 will be proberly the price of a adverage house.

      I am glad Gitorious is fighting back its weird that these sony nazi asians are trying to be americans
    1. Goblom's Avatar
      Goblom -
      Quote Originally Posted by daboijordan View Post
      i would do it, if i didnt have to sign up to do it
    1. lyricist's Avatar
      lyricist -
      Quote Originally Posted by SATMASTER View Post
      Maybe Sony wants to sue all of us for commenting on the situation too. Why not, they're going after everyone else. Because of all this nonsense Sony's going to have to sell the next gen PS4 for a 1000 bucks if they plan on going after everyone in the world! Heh.

      Nice to see they had a backbone. Wonder what country will be the next "host" for the dev's projects... Heh.
      LOL..what's funny is that sony only cares about all of this because they are eating really well off game sales moreso than sony and it's how they justify selling something that cost more than what they sell it for.
    1. dlcrook-PSG's Avatar
      dlcrook-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by linuzo View Post
      Welcome to North America
      Not so, If you were found innocent of all charges & someone else was convicted of the crime that you were charged with, you should have the right to be compensated for every day in jail that you were wrongfully sentenced to.

      Either your not telling the whole story or talked to a shitty lawyer (maybe not sue, but compensation (lost wages, hardship)). At the very least that time should be in your bank meaning that you already have "time served" stats, kinda like rollover minutes!