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  • Sony Gearing Up To Issue The Ban Hammer - CFW Users Beware!

    The PlayStation 3 scene should have expected this. Various reports suggest that anyone using custom firmware and using PSN/SEN will be banned. Even those using fckPSN or other means of bypassing access to PSN/SEN can be included in the ban wave. I for one have never used online access on my custom firmware PS3, so it would be interesting to see how far the ban hammer reaches. If you are one of the unlucky ones you will be met with a error code 8002A231. Please inform fellow CFW users should you encounter this.


    About Sony PSN Consumer Alert:1
    Thank you for your patronage of our PlayStation ® 3 from patronage. Cases of malicious software used on PlayStation ® 3 has occurred recently. Illegal use of the software, in violation of the software license agreement system for PlayStation ® 3, Terms and PlayStation ® Network, the Terms and Conditions Sony Entertainment Network. For the body 3 PlayStation ® violation was observed beyond the scope of the provision of services such as warranty and repair.

    If you have used malware on PlayStation ® 3, you should stop using them immediately, please delete. If you are using malicious software, you may not be able to connect to the Sony Entertainment Network and PlayStation ® 3 from PlayStation ® Network in the future.

    Even when observed other, from the point of view of operating online healthy community, and in violation of the laws and regulations of each country Terms PlayStation ® Network, or the Terms and Conditions Sony Entertainment Network, that will not be able to connect to the Sony Entertainment Network and PlayStation ® Network there. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation of everyone.
    About Sony PSN Consumer Alert: 2
    Dear valued PlayStation 3 customers,

    Unauthorized software for the PlayStation 3 system was recently released by hackers. Use of such software violates the terms of the "System Software License Agreement for the PlayStation 3 System" and the "Terms of Services and User Agreement" for the PlayStation Network/Sony Entertainment Network and its Community Code of Conduct provisions.

    Violation of the System Software License Agreement for the PlayStation 3 system invalidates the consumer's right to access that system. Consumers running unauthorized or pirated software may have their access to the PlayStation Network and access to Sony Entertainment Network services through PlayStation 3 system terminated permanently.

    To avoid permanent termination, consumers must immediately cease using and delete all unauthorized or pirated software from their PlayStation 3 systems.

    In order to help provide a safe, fair, online environment, consumers who we believe violate "Terms of Services and User Agreement" for the PlayStation Network/Sony Entertainment Network or the applicable laws or regulations of their country or region risk having access to the PlayStation Network and access to Sony Entertainment Network services terminated permanently.
    News Source: jp.playstation via GTAV90

    Thanks to GTAV90 for the news tip!

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    Comments 333 Comments
    1. ahou's Avatar
      ahou -
      I highly doubt they will do anything, and even if they do, bans are easy to evade. I'm not the least bit concerned.
    1. Sandbug's Avatar
      Sandbug -
      Quote Originally Posted by brakk3n View Post
      Pirating Games = Illegal
      Depends. In most countries sharing a pirated copy does constitute copyright infringement, but just simply downloading for your own use is non-actionable.

      Installing CFW = Illegal
      Again, depends. Not all countries are the same. Where I come from you are perfectly free to use your own equipment as you see fit, including installing CFWs.
    1. ahou's Avatar
      ahou -
      Quote Originally Posted by Sandbug View Post
      Depends. In most countries sharing a pirated copy does constitute copyright infringement, but just simply downloading for your own use is non-actionable.
      Well that's not true. Downloading copyrighted content without permission from the copyright holder is highly illegal in pretty much every single country.



      Again, depends. Not all countries are the same. Where I come from you are perfectly free to use your own equipment as you see fit, including installing CFWs.
      This is definitely true though. CFW is not illegal in almost any country that matters.
    1. Sandbug's Avatar
      Sandbug -
      Quote Originally Posted by ahou View Post
      Well that's not true. Downloading copyrighted content without permission from the copyright holder is highly illegal in pretty much every single country.
      Incorrect. Go look around through various European countries. As I said, sharing copyrighted control without permission is actionable in most countries, but simply downloading it isn't. The U.S. is a notorious exemption from this rule.
    1. KrazyNez's Avatar
      KrazyNez -
      Quote Originally Posted by Soussi View Post
      I think they will block the mac adress and account.

      What I was just thinking. Wonder if we can change the Mac Address like the psp to solve that. (Ah the fun days) If that is one reason. And the account. Well if its just the account make another.
    1. JDMAlex's Avatar
      JDMAlex -
      i will still use PSN because actions speak louder than words , and we will always find away unless they shut it off complete. so stuff u sonE
    1. jack4au's Avatar
      jack4au -
      Quote Originally Posted by KrazyNez View Post
      What I was just thinking. Wonder if we can change the Mac Address like the psp to solve that. (Ah the fun days) If that is one reason. And the account. Well if its just the account make another.
      You can, but you have to get a valid swap, just talk some little kid who wants to be 1337 or some crap into giving you his by saying youll help him hack
    1. indirect76's Avatar
      indirect76 -
      Quote Originally Posted by jack4au View Post
      Guys who cares if you get banned, just go back to 3.55 and there's a tool to Change your mac address in case you didn't forget!! Of course you need a valid mac address, here's the trick , go online on a legit offer a wannabe 1337 hacks then ask him for his mac address then use set mac address
      No, because Sony maintains a whitelist of valid console ids too.
    1. brakk3n's Avatar
      brakk3n -
      Quote Originally Posted by Sandbug View Post
      Depends. In most countries sharing a pirated copy does constitute copyright infringement, but just simply downloading for your own use is non-actionable.

      Again, depends. Not all countries are the same. Where I come from you are perfectly free to use your own equipment as you see fit, including installing CFWs.
      Most modern Countries/Nations/Unions have adopted laws in the past few years where circumventing security measures is illegal therefor most of the EU, China, HK and the USA are included. That about 1/3rd of the world and the rest of the locations and people who live in them must be extremely wealthy in the first place to purchase a Television let alone a PS3. So if you're not included then great. Regardless of the legal status of flashing CFW Sony is still planning on banning CFW users.

      Oh, Jailbreaking iphones and such will again be illegal pretty soon due to the 2012 DMCA.

      I need to move to Canada, but got kicked out of that Country and cannot legally return in my lifetime.
    1. xtrem3x's Avatar
      xtrem3x -
      Quote Originally Posted by mayid25 View Post
      I disabled internet connection. I will not use psn again.
      May as well be banned then.
      Why worry if you are going to disable internet anyway?

      Disable internet = No PSN
      Get banned = No PSN

      I'm going to call their bluff, makes no difference to me.
    1. IzeBerg's Avatar
      IzeBerg -
      has anyone here actually been banned yet?
    1. brakk3n's Avatar
      brakk3n -
      Quote Originally Posted by IzeBerg View Post
      has anyone here actually been banned yet?
      This thread contains a person whom has been banned and another reporting on the error codes you receive when banned and what they mean. So if they aren't full of it then yes, people have been banned.
    1. brakk3n's Avatar
      brakk3n -
      Quote Originally Posted by xtrem3x View Post
      May as well be banned then.
      Why worry if you are going to disable internet anyway?

      Disable internet = No PSN
      Get banned = No PSN

      I'm going to call their bluff, makes no difference to me.
      Do you know when Sony started to detect the CFW consoles? It they are doing it now based on a new method not including previous logs and system scans then it would probably be a good idea to not sign into PSN. To be on the safe side and all. It's just what everyone needs is their personal information being stored in a database full of CFW users. Of course, they could of already flagged PS3's using CFW in the past and you're already in a database, but I'd play it on the safe side. Who knows what will become of their database. Some Czar might add it to his/her collection.
    1. barham's Avatar
      barham -
      Quote Originally Posted by elbango View Post
      Can I sign up for a ban? because the PSN sucks anyhoot
      Me too, who cares!!!
    1. Mentalist's Avatar
      Mentalist -
      Quote Originally Posted by brakk3n View Post
      Do you know when Sony started to detect the CFW consoles? It they are doing it now based on a new method not including previous logs and system scans then it would probably be a good idea to not sign into PSN. To be on the safe side and all. It's just what everyone needs is their personal information being stored in a database full of CFW users. Of course, they could of already flagged PS3's using CFW in the past and you're already in a database, but I'd play it on the safe side. Who knows what will become of their database. Some Czar might add it to his/her collection.
      Hmmm now I am worried They have my credit card information, address real name and etc. Since I bought PSN content and DLC stuff. I would like to know what kind of method their are using to identify the Non OFW even staying offline. My traces are there, my information are there. They just have to caught me!
    1. Sandbug's Avatar
      Sandbug -
      Quote Originally Posted by brakk3n View Post
      Regardless of the legal status of flashing CFW Sony is still planning on banning CFW users.
      Indeed, I never claimed anything to the contrary. Sony owns the PSN and they are well within their rights to ban anyone they want from there for any reason they happen to like at the moment.

      Oh, Jailbreaking iphones and such will again be illegal pretty soon due to the 2012 DMCA.
      I'm just seriously glad I don't live in the U.S.
    1. megatoto's Avatar
      megatoto -
      Sony can't let his PSN raped by CFW users that get free access, hacked online pass and pirated games...What do you expect oO
      THEY DO THE RIGHT THING as best as they could...even if there are a few CFW people that will tell you that they are legit and bought the game, how many don't and cheat ?

      I only hope that there will not be collateral damage (eg OFW users that get banned due to false positive).

      False positive will be very unfair for people that don't cheat but get banned too...I hope Sony algorithm to detect cheaters is perfect...even if there is no such a perfect thing in our world ! Cheaters will inject / spoof their connection with other people serial / account number and force a lot of false positive...How Sony will deal with this issue ?
    1. barelynotlegal's Avatar
      barelynotlegal -
      Scare tactic, probally looking for the bootleggers, consoles playing the wrong region code, ect. Note is says cfw AND pirated games. Lol
      was on it earlier for a couple of games of mulriplayer. Cant wait to get home.grafix are better and the sound WOW. I was using a retail disk and psninja too.
      I see as this: if i vet banned o'well itll will be like 3.55 days again multiplayer is a bonus in my book.
    1. Mentalist's Avatar
      Mentalist -
      Well ban OFW users are like friendly fire! Good Luck to all. Sony snipers are out there Medal of Honor Allied Assault OST Sniper Town - YouTube!
    1. torchw00d's Avatar
      torchw00d -
      Just wondered, of all the people that have been banned, did anyone still have any funds still in their PSN wallet?
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