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  • Sony Gearing Up To Issue The Ban Hammer - CFW Users Beware!

    The PlayStation 3 scene should have expected this. Various reports suggest that anyone using custom firmware and using PSN/SEN will be banned. Even those using fckPSN or other means of bypassing access to PSN/SEN can be included in the ban wave. I for one have never used online access on my custom firmware PS3, so it would be interesting to see how far the ban hammer reaches. If you are one of the unlucky ones you will be met with a error code 8002A231. Please inform fellow CFW users should you encounter this.


    About Sony PSN Consumer Alert:1
    Thank you for your patronage of our PlayStation ® 3 from patronage. Cases of malicious software used on PlayStation ® 3 has occurred recently. Illegal use of the software, in violation of the software license agreement system for PlayStation ® 3, Terms and PlayStation ® Network, the Terms and Conditions Sony Entertainment Network. For the body 3 PlayStation ® violation was observed beyond the scope of the provision of services such as warranty and repair.

    If you have used malware on PlayStation ® 3, you should stop using them immediately, please delete. If you are using malicious software, you may not be able to connect to the Sony Entertainment Network and PlayStation ® 3 from PlayStation ® Network in the future.

    Even when observed other, from the point of view of operating online healthy community, and in violation of the laws and regulations of each country Terms PlayStation ® Network, or the Terms and Conditions Sony Entertainment Network, that will not be able to connect to the Sony Entertainment Network and PlayStation ® Network there. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation of everyone.
    About Sony PSN Consumer Alert: 2
    Dear valued PlayStation 3 customers,

    Unauthorized software for the PlayStation 3 system was recently released by hackers. Use of such software violates the terms of the "System Software License Agreement for the PlayStation 3 System" and the "Terms of Services and User Agreement" for the PlayStation Network/Sony Entertainment Network and its Community Code of Conduct provisions.

    Violation of the System Software License Agreement for the PlayStation 3 system invalidates the consumer's right to access that system. Consumers running unauthorized or pirated software may have their access to the PlayStation Network and access to Sony Entertainment Network services through PlayStation 3 system terminated permanently.

    To avoid permanent termination, consumers must immediately cease using and delete all unauthorized or pirated software from their PlayStation 3 systems.

    In order to help provide a safe, fair, online environment, consumers who we believe violate "Terms of Services and User Agreement" for the PlayStation Network/Sony Entertainment Network or the applicable laws or regulations of their country or region risk having access to the PlayStation Network and access to Sony Entertainment Network services terminated permanently.
    News Source: jp.playstation via GTAV90

    Thanks to GTAV90 for the news tip!

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    1. Mentalist's Avatar
      Mentalist -
      Actually I have just realised something! A lot of people that were on OFW and could not install the new CFW over their OFW without the use of hardware downgraders must have sent emails to sony support to rat on us! I remenber seing a lot of angry OFW 3.60+ with some hatred in their hearts! Sharp tongs! Went to mommy to tell on us han? I know you are all there spying on us!
    1. PatrickBatman's Avatar
      PatrickBatman -
      Quote Originally Posted by brakk3n View Post
      A lot of people including the majority of CFW users who do not use PSN to cheat in games have grown accustomed to not having PSN access or taking advantage of it's features with their CFW PS3. Most know that singing into PSN allows Sony to detect copied games and CFW so they have a second PS3 just for OFW and PSN. However, some people also do not care for online games, but this generation of "kids" are hooked to multiplayer online games and some do have CFW and do cheat in them. Online gaming is big business and when you have a huge game come out and it's being ruined by cheaters I think it's only fair to finally lay down the ban-hammer and get rid of anyone breaking the TOS regarding PSN. Selectively banning only the cheaters would probably take too much time and effort and why should Sony only get rid of the cheaters when you're breaking the TOS by using CFW which is used 99% of the time to pirate games anyway. So yes, I understand you do not like online games, but others do.
      These are all assumptions, who cares about civil right just stereotype everyone.
    1. brakk3n's Avatar
      brakk3n -
      Quote Originally Posted by Mentalist View Post
      Call $ony and send me to jail! I deserve that. I am just a 28 years old customer that sold my left kidney to buy a PS3. Yeah. I am really a bad an mean psycho just because I cannot afford to buy ALL the PS3 games library and use some workaround to play it! No I am not lucky and sorry about my sarcasm. Indeed is Illegal but people here are overeacting a little by call us CRIMINALS! We didnt steal from sony! I actually love sony consoles! I just think is unfair to claim that we are criminals or law breakers!
      Pirating Games = Illegal
      Installing CFW = Illegal

      Lots of CFW users steal from Sony and their third party developers and they are criminals. Using CFW to play your downloaded scene release movies is illegal and doing so you are a criminal. Using RetroArch or other emulators and downloading roms to do so makes you a criminal. Using the legal SDK to develop software is illegal due to the fact the SDK is basically a copy of the Retail SDK. Should I go on?

      I don't like the DMCA. If I want to backup a game to play from the HDD that I purchased for $60.00 that I want to preserve not only the disc, but shit BD-ROM drives Sony produces I think I should be able to. Sony sucks hardcore. I avoid the brand at all costs. Cheap crap that dies quickly. Sure, there's a lot of reasons to justify your actions, but let's be realistic here. People broke the TOS and now are getting banned. If they wouldn't of broken it then they wouldn't be getting banned. They knew the risks. They took the chance. It's no ones fault, but their own.
    1. brakk3n's Avatar
      brakk3n -
      Quote Originally Posted by PatrickBatman View Post
      These are all assumptions, who cares about civil right just stereotype everyone.
      There is nothing in any of our rights be it the Constitution, it's amendments or any Federal, State of Local laws that guarantee you access to Sony's PSN once you violate your contract with them. Sorry.
    1. yes159's Avatar
      yes159 -
      Quote Originally Posted by jalaneme View Post
      exactly, just ignore him, he's looking for flame bait.

      anyways as for topic, just watch there will be lawsuits, stopping users from accessing content that they have paid for is stealing just like how EA banned origin users from the forums and stopped them having access to the content they had paid for they got something done about it and EA gave them access to their content, yes we know sony can get away with everything unless you have a good lawyer but the law still stands and what they are doing is illegal just like they accuse of us using "malware" and calling us "hackers" i'm going to call them "theives" "scum" "corporate pigs" and so on.

      it's quite ironic that people like Goku1992 are calling everyone who uses cfw pirates when the only people who are stealing content from their users are sony.
      The difference with EA is that, as you say, people got banned on the forum and lost their Origin account that way. For it to be similar with the Sony, one would have to get banned for posting i.e on the PS Blog or on the Sony forums and lose their PSN account this way.

      I'm not sure how this works on Sony's side, because technically they are using the PSN account to post on the PS Blog, which is a part of the whole Playstation Network. Connecting to Sony's network with modified software will be a different case.

      What content is Sony stealing from their users?



      Quote Originally Posted by Ramosxtreme1976 View Post
      Im going to agree with you about alot of people don't pay for a lot but that not everyone. So banning everyone would not be fair for the ones that pay for there games. I put more money in this damn thing to be band. So until there is a work around Ill play my spare ps3 online with no worries because its on OFW.
      I think the problem is that there is no way for Sony to determain if a game is bought legally or if it is pirated.
    1. indirect76's Avatar
      indirect76 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Mentalist View Post
      Actually I have just realised something! A lot of people that were on OFW and could not install the new CFW over their OFW without the use of hardware downgraders must have sent emails to sony support to rat on us! I remenber seing a lot of angry OFW 3.60+ with some hatred in their hearts! Sharp tongs! Went to mommy to tell on us han? I know you are all there spying on us!
      Sony doesn't need anybody to snitch on us. I think they can afford a computer with an internet connection.
    1. Mentalist's Avatar
      Mentalist -
      Quote Originally Posted by indirect76 View Post
      Sony doesn't need anybody to snitch on us. I think they can afford a computer with an internet connection.
      I know that. I work on IT. But people help them to find it out faster.
    1. Mentalist's Avatar
      Mentalist -
      Quote Originally Posted by brakk3n View Post
      Pirating Games = Illegal
      Installing CFW = Illegal

      Lots of CFW users steal from Sony and their third party developers and they are criminals. Using CFW to play your downloaded scene release movies is illegal and doing so you are a criminal. Using RetroArch or other emulators and downloading roms to do so makes you a criminal. Using the legal SDK to develop software is illegal due to the fact the SDK is basically a copy of the Retail SDK. Should I go on?

      I don't like the DMCA. If I want to backup a game to play from the HDD that I purchased for $60.00 that I want to preserve not only the disc, but shit BD-ROM drives Sony produces I think I should be able to. Sony sucks hardcore. I avoid the brand at all costs. Cheap crap that dies quickly. Sure, there's a lot of reasons to justify your actions, but let's be realistic here. People broke the TOS and now are getting banned. If they wouldn't of broken it then they wouldn't be getting banned. They knew the risks. They took the chance. It's no ones fault, but their own.

      I misunderstood you and I am glad you dont like the DMCA! And well what a criminal life I fell like inside GTA IV EFLC. Even so if I buy a toy and I paid for this toy. I have all the rights to modify this toy because it is my property now! But Sony does not want anyone to modify their toys. So you are not completely a "owner!" of their toy. You must obey their demands and do not even paste a sponge bob sticker on you console.... because sony dont want it. You have to use your toy their way! Sony really sucks hardcore but I like their products. I have a bunch of sony products

      PS2/PSP/PS3/Sony Wireless Headset 7.1/Sony Usb Drive 4gb/Sony batteries/Sony wall battery charger/ Bunch of genuine games from Metal Gear,Final Fantasies and etc. I even sold more than 14 ps3 consoles to people because I told them they could play backups. Yeah I were a seller and sony profits even with criminals!
    1. Pharaohdk's Avatar
      Pharaohdk -
      Quote Originally Posted by Mentalist View Post
      I misunderstood you and I am glad you dont like the DMCA! And well what a criminal life I fell like inside GTA IV EFLC. Even so if I buy a toy and I paid for this toy. I have all the rights to modify this toy because it is my property now! But Sony does not want anyone to modify their toys. So you are not completely a "owner!" of their toy. You must obey their demands and do not even paste a sponge bob sticker on you console.... because sony dont want it. You have to use your toy their way! Sony really sucks hardcore but I like their products. I have a bunch of sony products

      PS2/PSP/PS3/Sony Wireless Headset 7.1/Sony Usb Drive 4gb/Sony batteries/Sony wall battery charger/ Bunch of genuine games from Metal Gear,Final Fantasies and etc. I even sold more than 14 ps3 consoles to people because I told them they could play backups. Yeah I were a seller and sony profits even with criminals!
      you own the toy and may do with it as you please.
      but sony owns PSN and by so may and have set rules for what is allowed for having access to PSN.
      its really that simple.
    1. thebudman420's Avatar
      thebudman420 -
      Jail breaking a console is no different than jail breaking a phone and that is perfectly legal so having a CFW on your ps3 should be just as legal, Why do you think the Geohot case ended up getting settled out of court? Sony knew they couldn't win that is why. If i was geohot i wouldn't of settled and took it all the way.
    1. Mentalist's Avatar
      Mentalist -
      Quote Originally Posted by Pharaohdk View Post
      you own the toy and may do with it as you please.
      but sony owns PSN and by so may and have set rules for what is allowed for having access to PSN.
      its really that simple.
      Yeah it is. I just think it is very unfair to completly ban an entire hardware from an online service. They could give a second chance or even charge a Fee to remove the banned console id from SOE! So people could repent their $ins against the almighty $ony and stay on OFW for the eternity.
    1. JonahUK's Avatar
      JonahUK -
      Fits gonna hit the shan now DUPLEX have released a fix!

      Call.of.Duty.Black.Ops.II.Eboot.Patch.PS3-DUPLEX


      I'd expect a sh1tload more bans!
    1. thebudman420's Avatar
      thebudman420 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Pharaohdk View Post
      you own the toy and may do with it as you please.
      but sony owns PSN and by so may and have set rules for what is allowed for having access to PSN.
      its really that simple.
      Funny You say that when phones that you run modified are allowed to connect to the networks or you wouldn't be able to make a call or browse online or anything of that nature, It should be no different.
    1. indirect76's Avatar
      indirect76 -
      Quote Originally Posted by JonahUK View Post
      Fits gonna hit the shan now DUPLEX have released a fix!

      Call.of.Duty.Black.Ops.II.Eboot.Patch.PS3-DUPLEX

      I'd expect a sh1tload more bans!
      Why does this matter at all?
    1. jack4au's Avatar
      jack4au -
      Guys who cares if you get banned, just go back to 3.55 and there's a tool to Change your mac address in case you didn't forget!! Of course you need a valid mac address, here's the trick , go online on a legit offer a wannabe 1337 hacks then ask him for his mac address then use set mac address
    1. Pharaohdk's Avatar
      Pharaohdk -
      Quote Originally Posted by thebudman420 View Post
      Jail breaking a console is no different than jail breaking a phone and that is perfectly legal so having a CFW on your ps3 should be just as legal, Why do you think the Geohot case ended up getting settled out of court? Sony knew they couldn't win that is why. If i was geohot i wouldn't of settled and took it all the way.
      you should really look up what the spream court in america ruled recently.
      they ruled that it is not the same, and that it is illigal.
      ---
      I myself dont think it should be illigal to jailbreak it, but ofc downloading games and cheating online should.
      I myself only use psn since its required to be able to use netflix.
    1. j4si3k's Avatar
      j4si3k -
      Back in the days there was a similar scare when psn was active on 3.55 cfws. I used to play a lot of games online most of them were backups and I was never banned. How many people actually got banned so far?
    1. thebudman420's Avatar
      thebudman420 -
      This is how i see it, If you can modify your phone and the phone company's can't ban your phone from there networks Sony shouldn't be able to either, Fair is Fair If the modified phone is legal and allowed on networks so should the ps3. There is no difference what so ever anymore, Phones are now game consoles too anymore.
    1. yes159's Avatar
      yes159 -
      Quote Originally Posted by thebudman420 View Post
      This is how i see it, If you can modify your phone and the phone company's can't ban your phone from there networks Sony shouldn't be able to either, Fair is Fair If the modified phone is legal and allowed on networks so should the ps3. There is no difference what so ever anymore, Phones are now game consoles too anymore.
      That is a bit different. You dont need a smartphone to make a call, you can use an old fashioned phone and still be able to make calls. It would be more like if Apple and Google banned the users with hacked phone so they are not able to use iTunes/Appstore and Google Play. I think that Apple and Google are allowed to do this because it is their network. They decide which devices that should be allowed to be connected to their network.
    1. thebudman420's Avatar
      thebudman420 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Pharaohdk View Post
      you should really look up what the spream court in america ruled recently.
      they ruled that it is not the same, and that it is illigal.
      ---
      I myself dont think it should be illigal to jailbreak it, but ofc downloading games and cheating online should.
      I myself only use psn since its required to be able to use netflix.
      That's the problem, The security shouldn't be in the PlayStation but on the game itself so that you can't download them and install them without keys kind of like pc's do. I own all my games and only have them install as it is 10x quicker to boot the game and i don't have to swap disk when i want to play a different game.