Sony Gearing Up To Issue The Ban Hammer - CFW Users Beware!

[mgrimmenator]

doesn't PS3 Ninja pkg prevent them from detecting this? it show a different list of games that is being played so multiman don't show up. also with Rebug, Rogero etc dont' those show up as normal ofw 4.30 to the psn network?


also if they start banning consoles then what if someone sold one to another person with them knowing is was banned? the new owner would just be screwed? that would sux butt.

[jalaneme]

Forget you! I don't go online to cheat! I go online to have fun with other people and buy games and buy DLC . Who are you to judge anyone here with a CFW PS3. Not everyone here are cheaters or pirates.

exactly, just ignore him, he's looking for flame bait.

anyways as for topic, just watch there will be lawsuits, stopping users from accessing content that they have paid for is stealing just like how EA banned origin users from the forums and stopped them having access to the content they had paid for they got something done about it and EA gave them access to their content, yes we know sony can get away with everything unless you have a good lawyer but the law still stands and what they are doing is illegal just like they accuse of us using "malware" and calling us "hackers" i'm going to call them "theives" "scum" "corporate pigs" and so on.

it's quite ironic that people like Goku1992 are calling everyone who uses cfw pirates when the only people who are stealing content from their users are sony.

[Goku1992]

@Ramosxtreme1976
There must be a balance. CFW users already have the privilege to play newer game titles. So it's pretty damn fair if they are not let online. Not because of cheating (not speaking directly to you) but 95% DONT pay for their games.

That's not fair to me when I buy my games. I have nothing against CFW users because I used to have it but shit don't get greedy this should not be a big deal because you guys have 95% of ps3 games to play for free. Legally/Illegally you all knew from the start that PSN would be off limits from the beginning. I even warned users going online that Sony would start banning consoles.

Once again I am happy that Sony is doing this. If there is a spoofer or something that a person can play their legally bought game disc on CFW then by all means I have nothing wrong against those CFW users. It's the CFW users that don't pay a dime and want to go online is the users I have a problem with.

[ynotrhyme]

Yup, thats what i meant. 360 did that when they dropped the hammer also. I seriously suggest to anyone who wishes not to be banned to stay away till further news. I know i will. it certainly seems fishy they start this around blops2 but the 360 did the same around when halo 3 and gow2 came out and they banned the sh1t out of millions. Hows xlink or xbs with mw3?

[Ramosxtreme1976]

@Ramosxtreme1976
There must be a balance. CFW users already have the privilege to play newer game titles. So it's pretty damn fair if they are not let online. Not because of cheating (not speaking directly to you) but 95% DONT pay for their games.

That's not fair to me when I buy my games. I have nothing against CFW users because I used to have it but shit don't get greedy this should not be a big deal because you guys have 95% of ps3 games to play for free. Legally/Illegally you all knew from the start that PSN would be off limits from the beginning. I even warned users going online that Sony would start banning consoles.

Once again I am happy that Sony is doing this. If there is a spoofer or something that a person can play their legally bought game disc on CFW then by all means I have nothing wrong against those CFW users. It's the CFW users that don't pay a dime and want to go online is the users I have a problem with.

Im going to agree with you about alot of people don't pay for a lot but that not everyone. So banning everyone would not be fair for the ones that pay for there games. I put more money in this damn thing to be band. So until there is a work around Ill play my spare ps3 online with no worries because its on OFW.

[BahumatLord]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Run little rabbit run!

Fast as fast can be - you'll never catch me!

[Goku1992]

@Ramosxtreme1976
This is where I also agree with you. It's just the fact that the piracy really got out of hand. What CFW users do with their ps3 is their own business. Like I said it just is not wise to play a CFW unit online anyway because Sony keeps track of it. People who have PSN content bought would be pissed because I buy PSN content all the time.

Sony doesn't care about the CFW users being online. Since it is so little of them but it's for the users that would try to glitch the game "Prestige hacks" Black Ops 2 is an EXTREMELY popular game. So this is why Sony is doing this and enforcing the banning.

What I am saying people on CFW had it for a while now and knew that psn was here today and gone tomorrow but it isnt worth risking your unit being perma banned. If people really care for those functions either dual-boot or buy another ps3.

It's just the users that want everything handed to them without contributing is the ones I have a problem with. But like I said before Black Ops 2 came out today so Sony is just repeating history from 2 years ago.

[brakk3n]

I agree with Sony's decision to ban PSN accounts linked to hacked consoles and also retract the PS3 consoles warranty. Due to the massive amount of morons who ruin others online gameplay via cheating I think they deserve to be banned. PSN is a service that is not guaranteed and if you break the rules I think you should be shit-canned. As for the warranty; Sony can snoop around your PS3 while you're online and knows if you're running CFW which voids your warranty. Knowingly installing CFW that it voids your warranty then bitching about it when Sony terminates it is immature and foolish. If you're going to hack something and violate TOS then man up! It's just like these pathetic children who brick their consoles installing CFW and blame the CFW authors - it's not their fault you installed the CFW. No one forced your hand. When you installed CFW you knew you'd lose PSN access and since then there have been brief moments in time where you can bypass Sony's security to gain access to PSN, but you're still violating the rules and I feel no remorse for anyone who has done such a thing. When you get into the "mod" scenes and you void your warranty then that's it. Once you do that whatever happens next may not be beyond your scope of control. Sony has all the rights in the world to get rid of these children who think destroying gameplay for others is "fun". Good riddance. I might get more multiplayer games if/when they do ban these low lifes.

[Goku1992]

@Jalaneme

People cant sue due to the fact of the TOS made from Sony with the 4.00 update. (You cant sue us we cant do whatever we want) It's F***ed up but at the end of the day we are playing on THEIR servers. I may not agree with everything Sony does but it's their servers their rules.

EDIT: Brakk3n even said it. To go online Sony strictly said (you can NOT reverse engineer or use unsigned code on YOUR ps3) or your Ps3 account would be terminated Sony is just now putting it into effect. So Sony even said it themselves

Want PSN go on OFW It's literally the only way.

[westlos420]

Watch out everyone both my console and account have been banned

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[PatrickBatman]

I like how all companies Sony is no exception, lie to their customers and say its for their on protection. When it's just Sony losing money. People with CFW on PSN can't hurt other users with this "malicious" software. CFW doesnt have a credit card scanner built into it or a bruteforce account hacker. After all we bought the console, but what about people who recieved the console as a gift, they didn't pay for it so ban them as well? As far as games they should ban the user if they're are using a pirated game they don't own for online play FOR THAT GAME ONLY.

Yes some will say well how will they know if the game is pirated, trust me sony has the money to figure this out, after all they spend a lot their money stopping "hackers". But yes like mentioned sony warned about it so beware I just don't agree with the way they're doing it. People should be sentenced for individual crimes, not just assumed they're committing ALL THE CRIMES cause they're on CFW.

[indirect76]

About damn time.

I been called it for a couple of weeks and pretty Ironic Black Ops 2 came out today and the last banwave was when BlackOps first came out with 3.50

I am very happy that Sony is implementing this if you have CFW then you are meant to play offline. Leave the PSN access for people who legally buy their games.

There you go again equating CFW to piracy, but I agree with your main point. Stay off PSN if you have CFW. It makes it too easy to cheat online.

[brakk3n]

@Jalaneme

People cant sue due to the fact of the TOS made from Sony with the 4.00 update. (You cant sue us we cant do whatever we want) It's F***ed up but at the end of the day we are playing on THEIR servers. I may not agree with everything Sony does but it's their servers their rules.

I have some experience with TOS and actual laws. Sony can write that you agree the Sky is Purple and Rabbits have wings, but they are a company and do not make laws. The part about agreeing to not suing them invalid due to the fact it's right you have that cannot be taken away even if you agree to it. You can still sue Sony and presenting an electronically signed binding contract stating you won't would not even be permissible in court as a way for Sony to stop the lawsuit before it got started. Sony cannot make, change or enforce actual US laws - period. You have a right in the USA to sue whomever you please. I know this because I had signed a lease for an apartment that said I would not sue, but after months of nothing, but violations of the law on there part I brought the matter to court and the lease (contract) I signed did not forgo my right to sue the bastards. It's a bluff that can't be enforced.

Of course your chances of winning a lawsuit against Sony is about -50%

[brakk3n]

I like how all companies Sony is no exception, lie to their customers and say its for their on protection. When it's just Sony losing money. People with CFW on PSN can't hurt other users with this "malicious" software. CFW doesnt have a credit card scanner built into it or a bruteforce account hacker. After all we bought the console, but what about people who recieved the console as a gift, they didn't pay for it so ban them as well? As far as games they should ban the user if they're are using a pirated game they don't own for online play FOR THAT GAME ONLY.

Yes some will say well how will they know if the game is pirated, trust me sony has the money to figure this out, after all they spend a lot their money stopping "hackers". But yes like mentioned sony warned about it so beware I just don't agree with the way they're doing it. People should be sentenced for individual crimes, not just assumed they're committing ALL THE CRIMES cause they're on CFW.

Running custom firmware is not only illegal in many countries including the USA, but it breaks the TOS for PSN therefor Sony has every right to ban your ass. It's common knowledge that by installing CFW you are in most cases breaking the law and in 100% of the time you're breaking the TOS. I have no problem with Sony enforcing this and if you're upset the only person you have to blame is yourself.

[PatrickBatman]

Running custom firmware is not only illegal in many countries including the USA, but it breaks the TOS for PSN therefor Sony has every right to ban your ass. It's common knowledge that by installing CFW you are in most cases breaking the law and in 100% of the time you're breaking the TOS. I have no problem with Sony enforcing this and if you're upset the only person you have to blame is yourself.

Do you read this part? "...I just don't agree with the way they're doing it. People should be sentenced for individual crimes, not just assumed they're committing ALL THE CRIMES cause they're on CFW. " I dont even use PSN except to get an act.dat bahahahah

How about I make a new rule, "if anybody disagrees with me on here or uses OFW I will ban them." bahahahaha yeah stupid just like PSN.

[Fierylava]

Correct me if I am wrong...but wouldn't a simple dual boot solve this big bad ban problem!

[thenat17]

Some people are already banned:

8002A231
8002A224
8002A227

These Error codes are for Ban 224 is for time for ex. two weeks and 227 are Pernament.


Maybe some people remember few years ago a maps to Little Big Planet 1/2 with some DICKS /penises and other terrible things like that and back then Sony was BANNING people. (You can be banned for a game or PSN )


So this is nothing new.

[atko2]

Seems to me that they cant patch the system with another firmware update so they are going this far. I dont care cos i dont play online anyway, as long as i can use showtime and update the games then who really cares

[brakk3n]

Do you read this part? "...I just don't agree with the way they're doing it. People should be sentenced for individual crimes, not just assumed they're committing ALL THE CRIMES cause they're on CFW. " I dont even use PSN except to get an act.dat bahahahah

I did; however running CFW is against the TOS and anyone running it is acceptable to being banned which is known from day #1 before you even install the CFW. Hacking a game console comes with personal responsibility and with the PS3 regardless of why you flashed CFW or how you use it that doesn't matter because you broke the TOS. You did. Not Sony. Don't get me wrong; I have many things I dislike about Sony, but it's in their right to ban you due to the fact by using PSN you must agree to the TOS stating for a while now that using unauthorized software is prohibited. When you hack a console you void it's warranty and are responsible for doing so. If you get an E3 flasher and break your PS3 then it's your fault, right? Well, you flashed CFW and not you're losing PSN; is that not also your fault? Then whose is it? The imaginary flying bunny who forced you to break your warranty and violate the TOS by magically installing CFW on your PS3?

[mgrimmenator]

let me ask you this. do you really think all these video games are worth $59.99 each when they come out? and then a couple months later they are $29.99. how is that fair if you bought it when it first came out and paid more. i say screw SONY and any other other greedy company that tries to take advantage of it's customers. if they want to stop piracy hears an idea make the DAMN games affordable so we could buy all of them. and when we buy the game and get it home and it sux and ain't like the promos we see give us our money back. that aint gonna happen so i say screw em. hack away, pirate away, yo! ho! yo! ho!