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  • Sony Claims to have Found Geohot's PSN Account - Geohot Currently Hanging Out in South America

    After going relatively well, geohot's court case with Sony has taken a major turn for the worse. Sony is reporting that geohot does in fact have a PSN account and that geohot had lied about not having one. As you may remember, Sony has been trying to prove this for some time, as it would help show California does have jurisdiction in the case. Also in what seems quite odd, Sony is reporting that George Hotz is in South America and has been using his location to stall the case.


    Download: Court Document


    Further Information in Article from VGHQ.net:


    After the judge demanded George Hotz gives in his devices and hard drives, the PlayStation 3 hacker ran away to South America to avoid handing his possessions in and now has put his case in extreme jeopardy. The hacker also lied about having a PlayStation Network account. GeoHot has finally been caught out.


    An official document (found here) filed by Sony from the Sony Computer Entertainment America LLC v. Hotz case recently detailed Hot’z recent actions. It said:


    Though the evidence establishing personal jurisdiction is already overwhelming, SCEA has little doubt that there is much more. However, over the last several weeks. Hotz has engaged in a campaign to thwart jurisdictional discovery at every turn –regardless of whether the Court has ordered such discovery or not. Most seriously, after Magistrate Judge Spero ordered an inspection of Hotz’s devices and ordered Hotz to appear at a deposition in California, SCEA learned that Hotz had deliberately removed integral components of his impounded hard drives prior to delivering them to a third party neutral and that Hotz is now in South America, an excuse for why he will not immediately provide the components of his hard drives as requested by the neutral. Hotz’s attempts to dodge this Court’s authority raise very serious questions.
    Additionally, Sony said:


    When SCEA echoed TIG’s request that the components of the hard drives be delivered immediately, Hotz’s counsel responded that Hotz was in South America.
    The hacker also lied about having a PSN account:


    On January 12, 2011, Hotz submitted a declaration to the Court (Docket No. 19-1) in which he made unequivocal statements on a number of topics. However, when it came to discussing the PSN account, Hotz equivocated, stating: “To the best of my knowledge and belief, I do not have a PlayStation Network account.” Hotz also provided interrogatory responses that he has refused to verify, stating that he has not accessed the PSN. Bricker Decl. ¶4.Hotz identified four PS3 Systems in his possession. Bricker Decl., ¶4, Exh. C. He explained that he had purchased one of these consoles new in February 2010 and provided the serial number for that console. Id. SCEA used that serial number to determine that on February 25, 2010, Hotz purchased the PS3 System at a Gamestop store just miles from his home. Law Decl., ¶6; Bricker Decl., ¶6, Exh. E. SCEA’s records show that the same PS3 System was used on March 10, 2010 to create a PSN account under the user name “blickmanic.” Law Decl., ¶6, Exh. A. The IP address associated with the registration is located in Glen Rock, New Jersey, where Hotz lives.
    Then, more evidence regarding his PSN account was discovered:


    Hotz’s ownership of the “blickmanic” account is further supported by the fact that an Internet search of the user name “blickmanic” reveals a posting discussing the jailbreaking of cellular phones – Hotz’s original “claim to fame.” Bricker Decl., ¶7, Exh. F (“Just curious what people would pay for exclusive rights to this solution. [Motorola] Tracfone W175g unlocked and debranded. PM me.”) As discussed above, to create his PSN account, Hotz was required to first agree to the terms of the PSN User Agreement and thus he is clearly subject to personal jurisdiction in California. It is well established that a valid and enforceable forum selection clause operates as consent to personal jurisdiction in a designated forum.
    Sony continued that even without his PSN account breach evidence, they already have enough evidence against him:


    Although Hotz’s PSN account registration clearly establishes jurisdiction, even without it, SCEA has shown the necessary minimum contacts between Hotz and California.
    Oh, boy; it’s going off big now.



    Source: VGHQ.Net
    Comments 94 Comments
    1. moeaz05-PSG's Avatar
      moeaz05-PSG -
      woo im first!!!!!!!!!!
    1. GregoryRasputin-PSG's Avatar
      GregoryRasputin-PSG -
      I personally think that VGHQ, used the running away part to sensationalize the post, perhaps he is holidaying.
    1. GregoryRasputin-PSG's Avatar
      GregoryRasputin-PSG -
      Quote Originally Posted by moeaz05 View Post
      woo im first!!!!!!!!!!
      Congrats, your epeen grew another half mm
    1. marleyb-PSG's Avatar
      marleyb-PSG -
      whoooo I'm second!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bleeeeep 4th
    1. Dishank's Avatar
      Dishank -
      Oh no! this isn't good!
    1. SuperDave's Avatar
      SuperDave -
      so he used his "legal fund donations" to skip the country.

      lol

      who's screwing their fans now?
    1. DFennec-PSG's Avatar
      DFennec-PSG -
      Although I support geohot, if in fact he's done all of this and it can be proven, he's SOL.
    1. Zero95's Avatar
      Zero95 -
      Quote Originally Posted by DFennec View Post
      Although I support geohot, if in fact he's done all of this and it can be proven, he's SOL.
      Yeah he has maked a PSN account in March 2010 but when he did deactivate his account on all consoles btw: he has deleted his acc the jurisdiction is not in california because he has not broken the tos because he has no active acc.
    1. ShadowG-PSG's Avatar
      ShadowG-PSG -
      how sad to see a weak post like this one over here....
      grandy you look like a jornalist trying to get atention with a untrue news with lots of mistakes...

      The hacker also lied about having a PSN account:
      did u read what u posted and got the conclusion that everything was said proves GeoHot has PSN account? Does the fact that someone bough a ps3 on a gamestop close to his wherearea if thats the word, and this person have posted a few posts on forums about phone hacking, proves it was geohot?

      Not that I care if he has or hasn't, the way things is been said here, isn't nice at all...
    1. exploitz's Avatar
      exploitz -
      Id say his just about ****** now
    1. Ian Thomas's Avatar
      Ian Thomas -
      Can you say somebody's screwed now
    1. Turkish-PSG's Avatar
      Turkish-PSG -
      This is what you get when you blindly follow someone giving flashy interviews like lemmings. He was so full of himself, he had such a big ego. I was AGAINST this guy from the beginning but all I got was disrespect from people here.

      Where are those people that screamed "f*ck Sony!!!1", "I will never buy a Sony product again!!" now???!

      Now he also used YOUR donations for PERSONAL gains! He LIED to YOU and the world.


      Support Sony!
    1. Deacon's Avatar
      Deacon -
      Congrats the idiot just screwed his case. /facepalm
    1. twisss's Avatar
      twisss -
      But don't they have to prove that he also went on PSN with a jailbroken console?
    1. cawthorne's Avatar
      cawthorne -
      He ran away because he was afraid they'd find his kiddy **** :P
    1. Meok's Avatar
      Meok -
      HERE?!?!?!?!? WTF!!!!!
      Ohh god not another Cesari Baptist -.-;;;;;

      hopefully he'll show in bangu 1 =DDDDDD
    1. Blarix-PSG's Avatar
      Blarix-PSG -
      ''When SCEA echoed TIG’s request that the components of the hard drives be delivered immediately, Hotz’s counsel responded that Hotz was in South America.''

      Sorry but where in that does it say he is in hiding? If he was in hiding do you honestly think his lawyer would give it away that easily?

      Sony is of course taking advantage of his holiday ( he is on holiday with your money guys lol) and spinning it to their agenda. We need to hear from him before we all jump the gun.
    1. Blarix-PSG's Avatar
      Blarix-PSG -
      Guys. Sony just played Geohot big time. I tell you why. Geohot is on Holiday so Sony quickly released this bit off info and let the reporter run with it. Now all of the people that donated to GEOHOT are incredibly pissed off that he is some what traveling with at their expense. See what Sony did is very simple. They know this case will go on for very very long time so they decided to take the steam out of GEOHOT's fans and future donations. Simple.

      Sony played a good game and this news is on all big sites now including Eurogamer, 4chan etc.

      GEOHOT AM CRY!
    1. indecks-PSG's Avatar
      indecks-PSG -
      This is probably just ignorance on my part, but what does GeoHot having a PSN account have to do with him jailbreaking the PS3?

      I don't see the connection, but again I probably just don't know the entire detailed situation.
    1. NEO117-PSG's Avatar
      NEO117-PSG -
      I say this is fake, and if it's not... LOL WTF?

      Well 1$ won't kill me.

      I hope this guy learns his lesson and stops trying to be that gold from Super Pitfall and flash everywhere.