PSX-Scene's Official Rules Update Announcement!

Published on 02-04-2012 12:45 PM

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PSX-Scene's Official Rules have been updated with a new policy that will be strictly enforced from here forward. NO MORE INSULTS/INSULTING! It seems simple enough, constructive criticism will be accepted while non-constructive criticism will absolutely not be tolerated. The only reason scene developers release information is for help, and to help others progress. Why would a developer want to release something to a negative community; and further more, what gives users the right to disrespect these people who share their developments with everyone? These scene developers deserve our gratitude and respect.

"Stepping into the development pond
Shouldn't be like swimming with sharks!"
- CrashSerious -

Our mission here is to create a community for developers and by developers; where members can come to interact, and receive help troubleshooting issues, or sharing information and ideas that will be useful to all of us. There should be no need to fear your fellow users in a community that is all about sharing and giving. If you are not interested in something, then simply do not leave a comment. If you don't like the release, then provide constructive feedback on what it is that you don't like; and instead of bashing the developer, why not try to tell them what you think would make the work in question more useful/functional. This will help keep things progressing in future releases rather than discouraging the individual or group.

A forum official had this to say:

The PS3 community relies on the work of developers who are doing their best to keep things advancing as well as sharing their ideas and thoughts with members and other developers. Recently many developers have been doing exactly that...sharing of information and ideas and there have been some people who immediately bash the developer. THIS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED on PSX-Scene. Everyone should feel comfortable to release projects or just share thoughts and ideas. without having to worry about someone making rude comments or flat out bashing them. If you don't like what they have to offer that is fine but bashing a developer or any other member will result in a warning, infraction or ban from the site. The forum rules have also been updated to reflect this.

Do your part to help this community becoming the peaceful home-away-from-home that we all know and love. Please, report insulting posts with the simple click of a button, and your PSX-Scene moderators will defuse the situation.

The bottom line is, any trash talk to developers will be met with instant ban.

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Jay-Jay - 02-06-2012, 05:08 PM
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I'd also like to bring up that the following groups or teams are also developers in their own right for the PS3 Scene. And I think we should also make sure these groups are protected under this new rule and not allow anymore unjustifiable attacks for their work and releases (whether free or not).

team DUPLEX
team PARADOX
team TrueBlue
team COBRA
and a few more I can't think of now...

CrashSerious - 02-07-2012, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay-Jay

I'd also like to bring up that the following groups or teams are also developers in their own right for the PS3 Scene. And I think we should also make sure these groups are protected under this new rule and not allow anymore unjustifiable attacks for their work and releases (whether free or not).

team DUPLEX
team PARADOX
team TrueBlue
team COBRA

Much respect for your other posts in this thread, @Jay-Jay. But, Should I ever win again, and this particular Idea becomes reality--- then, I will expect to be banned after the interview gets posted.

That's not to say I'm going to be bashing in the threads themselves though... (much).

tthousand - 02-07-2012, 12:23 AM
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I am going to have to agree with CrashSerious on this Jay-Jay, as they them selves have no representation in the scene, at least officially. But there is a line between trolling and opinion, and we will have to keep an eye on that, while maintaining the peace.

BahumatLord - 02-07-2012, 12:45 AM
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IDK.... some people might not agree with what they do, but they do produce results and those results take a lot of hard work. Not sure if it's good or bad in the long run. Time will tell

Edit: Also just because they don't have a visible presence in the scene doesn't mean they aren't here in one way or another. They are very secretive of their identities for obvious reasons. Some of them might even be people that we're all familiar with, just going under different names

CrashSerious - 02-07-2012, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay-Jay

team DUPLEX
team PARADOX
team TrueBlue
team COBRA

Well, that list is really a "which one of these things is not like the others" list.

Sesame Street - "One of these things..." (Bird seed) - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULu8q...eature=related

There's no disputing the link between PARA-BLUE and (we believe) Cobra are the same people.

BahumatLord - 02-07-2012, 01:21 AM
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Off topic but did anybody else see the first comment on that link - had to be one of the "lost episodes" of Sesame Street. That and the one in the 90's during the war on drugs where Big Bird comes off his trip and finally realizes that Snuffleupagus isn't real and that he's been talking to a figment of his imagination for years. He can't deal with the loss of his best friend and tries to get back to his altered state of reality and OD's in the alley next to Oscar's trash can after a night of meth for trade with Bert and Ernie. That one was a classic

Warning - 02-07-2012, 12:10 PM
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BMX has always been here and is probably reading this right now

tthousand - 02-07-2012, 02:58 PM
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Lets go back to examples:

Good Comment: I do not support #$%&@, and I do not understand why other do, too... expect for piracy

Bad Comment: #$%&@ are losers, and so is anyone that buy the dongle. I hate you stupid pirates!!!

The latter comment will not only get the post removed, but will earn an infraction as well.

RandQalan - 02-07-2012, 04:11 PM
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1 infraction for tthousand

tthousand - 02-07-2012, 04:45 PM
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And just to be fair, one more example...

GOOD - I think #$%&@ is good and at least keeps people interested in the scene.

BAD - #$%&@ is better than anything else on the scene, everyone can just kiss it's ass.

Again, the latter example here would be deleted, and the member would receive an infraction.
And the first one, met with reasoning.... or else

RandQalan - 02-07-2012, 05:06 PM
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ok good examples but don't you think that you should not be breaking the rules to get it across

tthousand - 02-07-2012, 05:20 PM
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Well, you can read it like that, or can can read it as a quick argument I am having between myself. Just showcasing one extreme to the the next, and how it can easily be changed into something more constructive with a little thought and effort. If I crossed any lines, let me know which ones...

acceptable

Good Comment: I do not support #$%&@, and I do not understand why other do... expect for piracy

GOOD REPLY - I think #$%&@ is good and at least keeps people interested in the scene.

unacceptable

Bad Comment: #$%&@ are losers, and so is anyone that buy the dongle. I hate you stupid pirates!!!

BAD REPLY - #$%&@ is better than anything else on the scene, everyone can just kiss it's ass.

It is easy to see which conversation is going to promote a healthy site, and which one is not. Nothing personal to #$%&@... but they are one of the top targets looking to be cracked. I could have used #$%&@ as an example to, but I was just looking to get a point across.

But the bottom line, teams and devices like these do promote piracy, while we do not... when in fact we are just looking for our own solutions to fix the problems ourselves. It is true that we should not expect anything, but some are after fortune and fame, which means instead of releasing the tools, they only release the product; While the known scene developers are looking for better ways to understand 3.55 and below, now they are faced with finding out ways to understand the secrets about the releases and dongles. It is like that JB release all over, expect this time with a little more strategy; once it is cracked who knows... it could lead to a way to enable homebrew on 4.00 and beyond. That is what we promote. Not only that, but when the JB was being cracked, and 3.55 was being released, the ps3 scene was productive and enjoyable environment... void of trolling and bashing (well, except for that one guy ).

BahumatLord - 02-07-2012, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RandQalan

ok good examples but don't you think that you should not be breaking the rules to get it across

I know you're joking, but some people need to have their hand held when it comes to issues about respect and decorum. He's just trying to explain it so everyone understands and nobody can say "I didn't understand the rules"

RandQalan - 02-07-2012, 05:41 PM
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I get the point but people see a mod do it and think they can too and won't notice that was an example only you know shouldn't use real case make a name up

RandQalan - 02-07-2012, 05:58 PM
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No just want more dev to stay not be run off SOPA and PIPA want to get rid of whole sites and run them out for ever one

BahumatLord - 02-07-2012, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RandQalan

I get the point but people see a mod do it and think they can too and won't notice that was an example only you know shouldn't use real case make a name up

I guess I missed the real case you're talking about. I used a real case earlier on this thread but withheld the name because I didn't want to call him out. I understand what you're saying about the people that will say "if he (tthousand - a mod) can do it, why can't I" but i think those people probably didn't take the time to read the rules in the first place or simply don't care about them anyway so eventually they'll hang themselves whether or not they saw what he posted. I think most reasonable people will take what he said for what it is - just an example of acceptable and unacceptable

Darkman-PSG - 02-07-2012, 06:21 PM
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LOL really? Why are people in the FIRST place like Jay-Jay said dissing

team DUPLEX,team PARADOX,team TrueBlue and team COBRA

Idk but without those four teams doing anything whatever left you called a scene would of rotted away back in September 2011 last year atleast these guys are keeping the ball rolling. And I know @tthousand that PSX-Scene doesnt promote piracy but lets be honest here this site is the number 1 place to go for any scoop and most news thrive on newer games be played. Homebrew died back in October 2011 (for those who haven't noticed) nothing fresh just updates on things that really dont need major updates on. This scene thrives on (piracy) I mean anybody can whip out an old computer and play most emulators on a crappy pc and just use their Ps3 controller that doesnt take much effort to do. But nobody cares about Linux or homebrew maybe the 10% On this site alone the most views are comming from PS3 gaming and jailbreak discussion and the least views come from the home-brew department see? Why even think twice about dissing the 4 teams that is keeping the scene alive without them = dead scene

eh the bottom line is most people on a CFW ps3 dont really care about homebrew we all remember good ole Geohot (piracy free) cfw back in Dec 2010 I remember all the complaining "where are the backup managers and etc..etc..)

Jay-Jay - 02-07-2012, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Darkman-PSG

this site is the number 1 place...

My favorite quote of the day!!

TizzyT - 03-15-2012, 06:51 AM
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Hmm the PS3 scene is not dead and its because there are still DEVs willing to help in making new homebrew/tools and contribute to the scene for free out of their own free time, and users who come and use said tools. People can either use the homebew/tools or not. I personally like feedback although not all Devs are the same in how they take insults etc. I for one can be insulted over and over and over again and not care as long as you at least put some form of detailed feedback. Other Devs might think oh wow what an ungrateful bunch I will re-frame from developing any more for this community. I mean is that what some of you want? for all the Devs to leave until all that is left are people like me who simply don't care what some mean individuals say? That will not get us moving forward. CrashSerious is one of a few I look up to. I enjoy talking with him when I get the chance and I also enjoy brain picking him too lol, but sometimes I'm lost by his explanations . Even still he is willing to help out and I am grateful and respect that. Remember this is the internet and misunderstandings are easy to make. The PS3 scene is my first community I ever joined and even now I like it. Insults personally I think only shows hate towards a person and not the homebrew/tool therefore it is not needed. And of course this is just all my point of view.