PsDev Decrypts Core_OS Files - One Step Closer To CFW3.60?

[grubby]

Yeah, 50 more games (worth ~$40 each totaling ~$2000) is a complete waste of time!!!!! Sheesh!!!

If anyone doesn't need their $2000 feel free to send it my way!

[ahou]

Yeah, 50 more games (worth ~$40 each totaling ~$2000) is a complete waste of time!!!!! Sheesh!!!

If anyone doesn't need their $2000 feel free to send it my way!

3.6 cfw would not allow any new games to be played that can't be played right now on 3.55.

[ceast21]

3.6 cfw would not allow any new games to be played that can't be played right now on 3.55.

true but it would make those games easier to play without so much extra patching plus you have to look at it like this.

if 3.60 cfw would be possible on 3.60 ofw than so many people with the supposed unhackable ps3 would be able to join in on cfw goodness even though most would have to use e3 flasher i think thats why they got leaked in the first place.

[ahou]

true but it would make those games easier to play without so much extra patching plus you have to look at it like this.

I'm sure there will be a method of playing them directly without any patching soon enough.

if 3.60 cfw would be possible on 3.60 ofw than so many people with the supposed unhackable ps3 would be able to join in on cfw goodness even though most would have to use e3 flasher i think thats why they got leaked in the first place.

Indeed, i stated much the same just a few posts ago.

[grubby]

3.6 cfw would not allow any new games to be played that can't be played right now on 3.55.

I suppose I should have been more specific in saying that the release of the 3.60 keys has allowed me to play new games that I previously have not been able to play on 3.41/3.55. Personally, I don't care that much if 3.60CFW doesn't materialize but I am happy that I can play more games than I could a few weeks ago.

OTOH, if 3.60CFW does appear it would seem that those with newer consoles may be able to join in on the fun that us 3.41/3.55 users have been enjoying for the last year or so.

[yes159]

Yeah, 50 more games (worth ~$40 each totaling ~$2000) is a complete waste of time!!!!! Sheesh!!!

If anyone doesn't need their $2000 feel free to send it my way!

If people have spent $2000 on the games, how could they send you the $2000?

[grubby]

If people have spent $2000 on the games, how could they send you the $2000?

Wha? Is it pick on me day today?

I'm sure you know what I meant but my tongue-in-cheek comment was intended to illustrate that the release of the 3.60 keys is NOT useless like some peeps were saying. If some people feel that an extra $2000 worth of playable games is of little consequence then perhaps they could send me $2000 because it's a big deal for me.

Now everyone lighten up and enjoy the new breath of life in the PS3 scene......

[yes159]

Wha? Is it pick on me day today?

I'm sure you know what I meant but my tongue-in-cheek comment was intended to illustrate that the release of the 3.60 keys is NOT useless like some peeps were saying. If some people feel that an extra $2000 worth of playable games is of little consequence then perhaps they could send me $2000 because it's a big deal for me.

Now everyone lighten up and enjoy the new breath of life in the PS3 scene......

I checked the calenadar and it said "pick on grubby day", yep Just kidding hehe. But serious, i wasnt picking on you, sorry, i ment it more as a joke

EDIT: Fixed a typo.

[felineswine]

Excellent work devs thank you.

On a side note, I for one would definitely appreciate the ability to enrich the current most popular cfw's that are already stable and highly used. I am on hermes 3.41 and would rather stay on it because its been completely stable and has given me no issues since installed, I have kmeaw 3.55 on another console and have had the same results. My main console is on hermes 3.41 because I appreciate the ability to use 3rd party controllers. I feel it was very sony to remove that ability and that is against what the scene is about. It seems it would be best for the scene to push to keep as much functionality as possible which in my opinion is with cfw 3.41 whether hermes or rebug.

I think it would be great to be able to use eboot patches for newer games to use with older cfw, it looks as though this may be possible now with the release of the 3.60 keys, even though it's only the 60 or so games. This is more than we had (those of us who didn't go the tb/cobra way. Another thing I look forward to possibly having is the ability to play ps1/ps2/psp on 3.41 like cobra allows, I'm not sure this is possible as of yet but it's looking more and more feasible.

All those 3.41 users out there will probably agree with me, what do you say 3.41 fans?

Thanks again devs/scene.

[ahou]

Wha? Is it pick on me day today?

I'm sure you know what I meant but my tongue-in-cheek comment was intended to illustrate that the release of the 3.60 keys is NOT useless like some peeps were saying. If some people feel that an extra $2000 worth of playable games is of little consequence then perhaps they could send me $2000 because it's a big deal for me.

Now everyone lighten up and enjoy the new breath of life in the PS3 scene......

I feel $2000 worth of games is of little consequence to me, because it is not actually $2000 worth of games. Ignoring the fact that you could surely buy them used for much less, there is actually not a single game that i have any interest in playing.

[Xzyx987X]

if 3.60 cfw would be possible on 3.60 ofw than so many people with the supposed unhackable ps3 would be able to join in on cfw goodness even though most would have to use e3 flasher i think thats why they got leaked in the first place.

That's not how it works. The 3.60 keys we have are only for decryption. They won't allow us to sign firmware for newer consoles, and if the firmware isn't signed correctly the PS3 won't run it. New signing keys will likely be impossible to get, because it was only due to an immense screw up by Sony that we were able to get the 3.55 keys in the first place. That is unlikely to happen again.

The only way I think newer PS3s could be cracked open enough to run CFW is to glitch the CPU into running unsigned code on bootup (similar to the reset glitch hack for the Xbox 360). But even that is unlikely to work due to the complex architecture of the Cell CPU. Any other means of attack wouldn't get you any farther than something like how you have to glitch a game every time you want to run homebrew on the Vita. In other words, it would be inconvenient to use, and Sony could always patch it.

By the way, it will be interesting to see if correctly implemented digital signatures, along with encrypted memory and a simple hypervisor, will be enough to finally defeat the efforts of hackers to break open consoles. The Xbox 360 and PS3 generation hasn't been easy for hackers to deal with, and the Vita/3DS are looking damn near impenetrable at the moment. Unless you call hacking the PSP emulator inside the Vita progress, which I don't because you might as well just use a PSP. Of course, you could also blame the lack of progress on the fact that the really good hackers would rather spend their time and efforts on things like the iPhone, which is really a much more desirable platform to have open to begin with. Also, some hackers seem to think that all hacking open a video game console does is lead to massive piracy. I wonder where they got that idea...

[CS67700]

The Xbox 360 and PS3 generation hasn't been easy for hackers to deal with, and the Vita/3DS are looking damn near impenetrable at the moment. Unless you call hacking the PSP emulator inside the Vita progress, which I don't because you might as well just use a PSP. Of course, you could also blame the lack of progress on the fact that the really good hackers would rather spend their time and efforts on things like the iPhone, which is really a much more desirable platform to have open to begin with. Also, some hackers seem to think that all hacking open a video game console does is lead to massive piracy. I wonder where they got that idea...

At this rate, the PS3 will never even attain the level of hack of an Xbox 360.
It's been 7 years and the only thing the "developers"of this scene could achieve, was a lucky CFW due to a huge mistake by Sony.

Microsoft was smart on the matter, they knew that : hack = pirated games = more consoles sold.
They could have adopted an aggressive behavior like Sony, but they chose to "fix" it periodically without harassing their consumers.

They obviously knew that it would create collateral damages if they started suing everyone.
Obviously in Japan they don't know what humility is, and more importantly they don't know how to handle customers.

[bluntman420]

This is only good news and progress if it's going to lead to something else.
If you're stuck on 3.60 again I don't see any interest of making a 3.60CFW.

Peoples are going to call me a hater or a troll, but this is just common sens and facts.

Some chinese dev with capabilities of making some 4.20+ CFW put up some paypal donation system or anything else.
I'll be the first one to donate and support him/them to make this work/progress.

Like I said before, I'd rather pay hard working peoples with talent than greedy companies (especially japanese companies) that baffles our consumers rights.

How long have you been a part of the scene? Not this forum, but the scene? This is a huge step forward and if you think anything else just shut your face.

[ceast21]

All i have to say is i havnt even had my ps3 2 weeks & guess what i have been following the scene since the beggening & everyday i would stay updated & learn more even though I had no reason but was & still greatful nomatter the usefullness of what they did cause guess what its more than any of you who critisize have done so go ahead judge but even at such a depressing level the ps3 scene willmove on though devs are small the progress is still coming no matter the usefulness.

so keep on talking, the devs will still do what they do best & crack what they can & give to us the people who care & will use, or just say thanks anyway.

Plus you guys obviously dont see what i SEE which isnt much with 20/450 vision.

Ever since TB the users have gotten complacent & like everything infront of them on a silver platter. well guess what in the real word when you dont pay you get what you dont pay for.

even if cfw 3.60 doesnt happen i still will appreciate those who tried over those who didnt & just sat there & whined about it.

I have seen so many people actually working for what they wanted (making custom eboot fixes & updates with 3.60 keys) makes them think for themselves for once & actually feel accomplished for doing something themselves without just a copy paste method. because you bought the easy way out.

im not trying to hate but come on everyone should be happy with what method you use & dont complAIN about other methods just because you dont use them thats just foolishness.

end pointless rant here.

[ahou]

That's not how it works. The 3.60 keys we have are only for decryption. They won't allow us to sign firmware for newer consoles, and if the firmware isn't signed correctly the PS3 won't run it. New signing keys will likely be impossible to get, because it was only due to an immense screw up by Sony that we were able to get the 3.55 keys in the first place. That is unlikely to happen again.

That doesn't necessarily mean we couldn't sign it with previous keys, and install it with a hardware flasher.

[JOshISPoser]

At this rate, the PS3 will never even attain the level of hack of an Xbox 360.
It's been 7 years and the only thing the "developers"of this scene could achieve, was a lucky CFW due to a huge mistake by Sony.

Microsoft was smart on the matter, they knew that : hack = pirated games = more consoles sold.
They could have adopted an aggressive behavior like Sony, but they chose to "fix" it periodically without harassing their consumers.

They obviously knew that it would create collateral damages if they started suing everyone.
Obviously in Japan they don't know what humility is, and more importantly they don't know how to handle customers.

are you like a troll or just really ignorant?

Japan knows pretty much the best consoles. They don't always pick the overall winners, but they usually choose the one that should have won. They give a chance to new products that could be great or were great that other regions are unwilling to learn.

Then again, they keep playing RPG's, which they've been doing for the test of time because they know the best types of game. Proof: every genre seems to be becoming an RPG. Action/western rpg's are becoming huge it's insane. I'm finally getting into rpg's again because i wasn't too big into them as a child and now i realize what i missed. It's the story and mostly linear gameplay that's a breath of fresh air compared to most of the game time being just running around and doing nothing nowadays. Open world and sandbox is okay, and can be great, but sometimes i like a 100 hour game to not be able to be beaten in like 15 hours in a speedrun.

Idk where i'm going...Japan is great and all they know is humility and respect. Just watch Tom Green's Subway Monkey Hour.

[yes159]

At this rate, the PS3 will never even attain the level of hack of an Xbox 360.
It's been 7 years and the only thing the "developers"of this scene could achieve, was a lucky CFW due to a huge mistake by Sony.

Microsoft was smart on the matter, they knew that : hack = pirated games = more consoles sold.
They could have adopted an aggressive behavior like Sony, but they chose to "fix" it periodically without harassing their consumers.

They obviously knew that it would create collateral damages if they started suing everyone.
Obviously in Japan they don't know what humility is, and more importantly they don't know how to handle customers.

Wasnt the Xbox 360 hacked because of a huge mistake by Microsoft as well? They made a demo disc (that was used in stores) that ran unsigned code or something, that made it possible to bypass the security messures. I dont remember the exact details around it, but that demo disc made the hacking of Xbox 360 possible at least. If no one had gotten their hands on that demo disc, maybe the Xbox 360 wouldnt have been hacked to this day.

By the way, it is not like Microsoft allow piracy to happen because it will sell more consoles. The biggest profit in the console industry is the sales of games and accessories. The sales of the console itself usually isnt that profitable, or sometimes they are even sold with loss.

Microsoft have tried to put a stop to people modifying the Xbox 360s. I think that the biggest difference here is that people use other methods (changing the DVD-ROM firmware and using JTAG) that cant be fixed easily through software updates. Microsoft have tried to change the DVD-ROM in many newer Xbox 360 consoles. All of this has to be fixed at a hardware level (as far as i know) while the PS3 hacking could be fixed on a software level. I can pretty much guarantee that Microsoft would put out more software updates if this would have helped against hacking the Xbox 360.

About 2 years ago a guy (Michael Crippen) was sued for modding Xbox 360s. It took over a year before the case against him was dropped.

I'd say that suing = collateral damage is pretty much just a myth in this case. I mean, i'm sure that someone cares, but in the big picture, i havnt seen any signs that either Microsoft and Sony have gotten the console business hurt because of these lawsuits. I'm pretty sure that 99.99% of all people dont care about these lawsuits. I wouldnt be surprised if 99.99% of the people havnt even heard, or forgotten, about these lawsuits.

I wonder what you mean with handling customers in this case? You mean that a firmware update maybe one time each 2nd month, something that takes maybe 10-20 minutes is harrasing the customers? If you mean that suing a handfull of people for modifying closed systems is harrasing the customers, then Microsoft and Nintendo have done it as well.

[CS67700]

are you like a troll or just really ignorant?

Japan knows pretty much the best consoles. They don't always pick the overall winners, but they usually choose the one that should have won. They give a chance to new products that could be great or were great that other regions are unwilling to learn.

Then again, they keep playing RPG's, which they've been doing for the test of time because they know the best types of game. Proof: every genre seems to be becoming an RPG. Action/western rpg's are becoming huge it's insane. I'm finally getting into rpg's again because i wasn't too big into them as a child and now i realize what i missed. It's the story and mostly linear gameplay that's a breath of fresh air compared to most of the game time being just running around and doing nothing nowadays. Open world and sandbox is okay, and can be great, but sometimes i like a 100 hour game to not be able to be beaten in like 15 hours in a speedrun.

Idk where i'm going...Japan is great and all they know is humility and respect. Just watch Tom Green's Subway Monkey Hour.

Wow, I never thought this would lead to a debate with some white ninja trying to show me how cool Japan is.
Fine, enjoy your passion.

But to be honest with you I couldn't care less.

We're talking about hacking here, not RPG's or how Japan has the monopole of good taste (which they don't have).

Microsoft didn't allow piracy on its console, but they had a much more civilized reaction on the matter than Sony did.
They didn't run around suing and threatening peoples.

[yes159]

Microsoft didn't allow piracy on its console, but they had a much more civilized reaction on the matter than Sony did.
They didn't run around suing and threatening peoples.

Michael Crippen was sued for over a year because he modified Xbox 360 consoles.

Are the names of the guys who hacked the Xbox 360 known by the way? I havnt heard anything about that personally at least. When you dont know the names, it is much harder to sue. Finding the name of Geohot wasnt exactly difficult.

[CS67700]

Michael Crippen was sued for over a year because he modified Xbox 360 consoles.

Are the names of the guys who hacked the Xbox 360 known by the way? I havnt heard anything about that personally at least. When you dont know the names, it is much harder to sue. Finding the name of Geohot wasnt exactly difficult.

Not comparable at all.
He was making a business out of it, and the charges were dropped if I remember well.

They could have taken down peoples/teams like C4eva the same way Sony busted a few doors of PS3 devs.
And if I remember well they didn't publicly display their names on the interne either.