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  • PS3 May Block Transfer of PSP Titles to PS Vita Systems!

    PS Vita scene developer HELLCAT has shared new information about the PS3's ability to connect with the PS Vita, a system some are calling the "bridge" between the PSP and PS3 scenes. Apparently, the PS3 has the ability to create a checklist of PSP titles(and others) you own, and will only allow those who pass to be transferred to the PS Vita system. He also states that the CMA (Content Manager Application) may also act in similar fashion; and depending on just what type of list it is, it's encrypted, Open CMA might now even help.


    The PS3 offers the very convenient option of downloading PSP content from the PSN store, store it on the local hard drive to later be transferred to a PSP or a PS Vita.

    And here comes the catch:
    When you connect a PS Vita to the PS3 via Content Manager and use the function to transfer “Applications (PSP/Other) downloaded to the PS3 system” to the PS Vita, while the “Please wait” is shown on the PS Vita and before the PS3 sends the list of available titles, it fetches a list from PSN servers and crosschecks the local content against this list and only offers those titles to be transferred that are not “blocked” by said list.
    I don’t know if it is a blacklist or a whitelist, and it’s encrypted, but it is used to hide or block out titles from being transferred to the PS Vita!

    So, for example:
    You downloaded MotorStorm Arctic Edge in time to your PS3 and also successfully transferred it to the PS Vita and did not delete it from the PS3.
    If you now (that it was used for an exploit) try to transfer it again, you would not be able to. The PS Vita will not see the title.

    These are the files fetched by the PS3 for said list:
    http://vitacl.xx.dl.playstation.net/.../xx/j/list.dat
    http://vitacl.xx.dl.playstation.net/.../xx/j/list.dat

    The PC version of CMA might do similar things, and if it’s actually a whitelist, OpenCMA wouldn’t help here.
    Source: PS Vita Zone

    If you are interested in transferring PSP titles from your PS3 to your PS Vita ( games that are not available to download on the PS Vita as of yet) DavGerm4 has put together a guide in our PS Vita sub-forum.
    Comments 10 Comments
    1. Goku1992's Avatar
      Goku1992 -
      Well this doesn't surprise me the Vita will NOT be another PSP Failure. Lately I havent been hearing any further news about the vita being exploited any further who knows it might take them 4+ years to crack it
    1. tthousand's Avatar
      tthousand -
      Quote Originally Posted by Goku1992 View Post
      Well this doesn't surprise me the Vita will NOT be another PSP Failure. Lately I havent been hearing any further news about the vita being exploited any further who knows it might take them 4+ years to crack it
      Just a couple of days ago, Wololo was talking about a possible new exploit for VHBL. Nothing is impossible, and if the PSP and PS3 scenes come together, that could be a wonderful thing.
    1. Goku1992's Avatar
      Goku1992 -
      See this is what I am talking about.... it's not the fact it is impossible it's the fact that they are going to release something soon (last exploit) and Sony is going to patch it. They should seriously wait and test something out add some emulators and functions rather than release something for some bragging rights
    1. SciLor's Avatar
      SciLor -
      So its time for another DNS-Patcher for this files, so the PS3 will get the oldest Blacklist possible!
    1. krytonic's Avatar
      krytonic -
      Quote Originally Posted by Goku1992 View Post
      See this is what I am talking about.... it's not the fact it is impossible it's the fact that they are going to release something soon (last exploit) and Sony is going to patch it. They should seriously wait and test something out add some emulators and functions rather than release something for some bragging rights
      It wasn't for bragging right some people like to share information but I know that can be hard for some people to believe. You're just angry because you couldn't get the game in time.

      Let's hope that if the Vita is indeed hacked fully, you don't need to connect it into your computer every time you turn it on to validate it for some DRM you gotta pay for -.-
    1. Dark3mx's Avatar
      Dark3mx -
      Quote Originally Posted by krytonic View Post
      It wasn't for bragging right some people like to share information but I know that can be hard for some people to believe. You're just angry because you couldn't get the game in time.

      Let's hope that if the Vita is indeed hacked fully, you don't need to connect it into your computer every time you turn it on to validate it for some DRM you gotta pay for -.-
      Remember the noDRM patch for the PSP?
    1. Goku1992's Avatar
      Goku1992 -
      Sharing information is the PS3 scene biggest downfall and I am not mad at anything. All I am saying is when you have an exploit do major testing on it and then release it without explaining how you found it. What I mean by further testing is making the exploit running without a game. (Since if it runs with a game) Sony will take the game off of the PSN.

      I have no interest in the PS Vita (Yet) but I will buy one at the end of the year or next year. Biggest reason I didnt buy one is because they have no games that I am interested in on it. I'll wait for a price drop
    1. Ag|3|nt's Avatar
      Ag|3|nt -
      If it's fetching a list of approved titles from a http link couldn't you just simply redirect a modified list from your PC using a web server and something like Simple DNS? Seems to me like that would work just fine, but then again maybe I'm not understanding everything fully.
    1. ahou's Avatar
      ahou -
      Quote Originally Posted by Goku1992 View Post
      What I mean by further testing is making the exploit running without a game. (Since if it runs with a game) Sony will take the game off of the PSN.
      You do understand that the exploit is in the game, yes? You cannot just wave a magic wand and make a save game exploit work without the game.

      Quote Originally Posted by Ag|3|nt View Post
      If it's fetching a list of approved titles from a http link couldn't you just simply redirect a modified list from your PC using a web server and something like Simple DNS? Seems to me like that would work just fine, but then again maybe I'm not understanding everything fully.
      Yes and no. The list is encrypted. If it is a blacklist, then yes, that would not be difficult to do. If it is a whitelist, then you would need to capture the list while the game is still on it. Not impossible, but it does complicate things a bit.
    1. SirAwesomeson's Avatar
      SirAwesomeson -
      Do we currently have ways to create pkg files from cso/iso's? If so it would be pretty simple to just grab a cso, convert to pkg and transfer. Then we could tell if its a whitelist or blacklist.
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