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  • PS Vita News - Sony Forces You to Buy Their Memory Cards

    I have been entertained the last couple of days regarding the news about the PS Vita. Even made some custom images pertaining to the outrageous prices of the memory cards and the excuses provided by Sony and now this. Below is a simple equation that outlays the most recent news regarding the PS Vita. So for those feeling a little lazy the equation simply adds up to this. If you have a PS Vita and add a memory card it equates to actually been able to play some games. And the rest is self explanatory.


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    With the high price of the PlayStation Vita’s memory stick, we take a look at whether you need the flash card to use the handheld, and what the added cost means for gamers.

    The move is in direct contrast to Sony’s openness with the PS3, which is repeatedly praised for it’s ability to use any 2.5″ SATA HDD, and is actually more similar to Microsoft’s decision to charge well above average for their proprietary hard drives. But even Microsoft’s business strategy was preferable – you don’t need to own a HDD for 99% of retail games – but on the Vita, a memory card is much more important. The biggest launch title for the Vita, Uncharted: Golden Abyss, requires a memory card simply to save the game, along with several other games. That means that if you buy a normal Vita without a card, you will essentially be unable to play the game. The sad fact is that the average gamer won’t know this, and neither will gift-givers, meaning that the first emotion countless Vita owners feel when they try and play their new handheld will be anger and confusion. Especially when they realize the price of the memory stick.

    If you plan on buying a PlayStation Vita, you will have to buy a memory stick just to play all the retail games, so the true cost of the Vita is above the advertised price of $249. Sony has basically sold a car without one of the wheels, just to make it appear cheaper.
    Sony should have a press release and it should go like this...

    "The PS Vita will be out soon. Could all hackers commence duties"


    Source: playstationlifestyle.net

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    Comments 57 Comments
    1. dnice's Avatar
      dnice -
      i could have sworn this was already posted..
    1. yes159's Avatar
      yes159 -
      I dont know if it has been posted here before, but it was reported some weeks ago that some Vita games will require memory card.


      ""The PS Vita will be out soon. Could all hackers commence duties""

      Do you think that it is possible to hack the games themself so that you can save directly on them? Honest question.
    1. BahumatLord's Avatar
      BahumatLord -
      Yeah, the only difference I saw between this and the previous news post was about Uncharted not being able to save, but that's true of any game with a save function. You need somewhere to save the info to whether it be a memory card or hard drive. I always thought that was common knowledge
    1. BahumatLord's Avatar
      BahumatLord -
      Let me correct myself before anyone else needs to. I haven't read up on the vita yet, are you saying that the games are stored on internal memory but they won't let you store a savegame on internal memory?
    1. yes159's Avatar
      yes159 -
      Quote Originally Posted by BahumatLord View Post
      Yeah, the only difference I saw between this and the previous news post was about Uncharted not being able to save, but that's true of any game with a save function. You need somewhere to save the info to whether it be a memory card or hard drive. I always thought that was common knowledge
      Some Vita games actually allows you to save directly to the game itself, so no memorcard is needed i those cases. I have no idea why only some games allow this though, if it is due to some techincal reasons or that it is being done as a business decition to sell more memorycards. Games like Uncharted Vita wont even start if you dont have a memorycard.

      Are anyone here planing on getting a Vita without a memorycard by the way?


      Quote Originally Posted by BahumatLord View Post
      Let me correct myself before anyone else needs to. I haven't read up on the vita yet, are you saying that the games are stored on internal memory but they won't let you store a savegame on internal memory?
      Some games allow it while other doesnt.
    1. darayden's Avatar
      darayden -
      Anyone who buys this is a F***in tool!!!!
    1. yes159's Avatar
      yes159 -
      Quote Originally Posted by darayden View Post
      Anyone who buys this is a ****in tool!!!!
      Were you going to buy a Vita without a memorycard?
    1. rakaJD's Avatar
      rakaJD -
      Somebody please explain this to me .__. The memory cards u need to save the game only? So one 4GB memory card should be enough for pretty much anybody right? (given, you dont put media and stuff like that). Or do you also have to install game files like in the ps3?? Because that would just take up too much space and with the price for 1GB thata impossible to afford.

      Dont think I'll get a vita but it makes me curious
    1. yes159's Avatar
      yes159 -
      Quote Originally Posted by rakaJD View Post
      Somebody please explain this to me .__. The memory cards u need to save the game only? So one 4GB memory card should be enough for pretty much anybody right? (given, you dont put media and stuff like that). Or do you also have to install game files like in the ps3?? Because that would just take up too much space and with the price for 1GB thata impossible to afford.

      Dont think I'll get a vita but it makes me curious
      Yeah, it is the savegame only, there is no game install like PS3. So a 4GB card (if you use it for savegames only) should be more than enough indeed. Some games require a memorycard to work, while other games work fine (and you can save directly to the game card) without using a memorycard.
    1. krytonic's Avatar
      krytonic -
      I'm not a fanboy, but you guys shouldn't automatically think "it is only like this so they make more money!"

      It is possible that the game fills up the cartridge to it's capacity, or so close to it save games simply will not fit on there. Wait until someone actually rips the game and sees how big it is before posting ignorant posts!
    1. ahou's Avatar
      ahou -
      Quote Originally Posted by dnice View Post
      i could have sworn this was already posted..
      Yeah, this is extremely old news, along with everything else posted here about vita recently.

      And to clarify the lies in the article, only about half the games will require a memory card, the rest will save right to the game card. Of course, you still need one, but plenty of games are playable without one.

      Yeah, it is the savegame only, there is no game install like PS3.
      Sort of. There will still be some dlc that will need to be installed to the memory card, should you choose to buy that. Addtionally all games will be available to purchase via psn, so those could be saved on the memory card. Not to mention psp games, etc. If you don't plan on buying any games from psn, then 4 gb will definitely be enough to last you through the entire life of the system. However, if you do plan to buy games from psn, as well as piracy, when the system is hacked, you will need a bigger memory card. Personally i will be buying a 4 gb memory card, then waiting for a micro sd adapter for more.
    1. svang1987's Avatar
      svang1987 -
      how come theres no "cloud save storage" like on the ps3??? memory card/sticks are sooo out of date nowadays. c'mon poeple its almost 2012. the world of tech is slacking off. geeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    1. krytonic's Avatar
      krytonic -
      Quote Originally Posted by svang1987 View Post
      how come theres no "cloud save storage" like on the ps3??? memory card/sticks are sooo out of date nowadays. c'mon poeple its almost 2012. the world of tech is slacking off. geeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
      They are out of date? What if you don't have the 3G model and are playing it on a camping trip, or on a train? How would you save your games with no internet access?

      Infact, not everyone has the internet at their home. Even if they do, what if their connection goes down for a day which is common? How would they load their save games to continue playing and then save the game after?
    1. RandQalan's Avatar
      RandQalan -
      Besides who said cloud save are always secure

      I for one don't think important data or information should be put on cloud myself and don't trust Big S not to remove or alter it on me
    1. Iconoclass's Avatar
      Iconoclass -
      Quote Originally Posted by krytonic View Post
      I'm not a fanboy, but you guys shouldn't automatically think "it is only like this so they make more money!"

      It is possible that the game fills up the cartridge to it's capacity, or so close to it save games simply will not fit on there. Wait until someone actually rips the game and sees how big it is before posting ignorant posts!


      I love the people who justify the acts of others and more funny justify the act of the companies without face , you dont know either if it really fills the space, you r a ignorant too in that case, the only thing I see here is that they want to sell something necessary, which is 5-10% they said would have these nvg cards?, cant believe it was so fast and for a AAA, so will be others games necessary?, 200 to 400mb space for savegames, patches, expansions, etc.. x 4GB = 10-20 games AAA or less?, 4 gb is nothing today for the content via network. Come on, 200 sandly mb is not enough for savegames?

      I think is more a antipiracy method than other bullshit for the future, for sure.
    1. krytonic's Avatar
      krytonic -
      Quote Originally Posted by Iconoclass View Post


      I love the people who justify the acts of others and more funny justify the act of the companies without face , you dont know either if it really fills the space, you r a ignorant too in that case, the only thing I see here is that they want to sell something necessary, which is 5-10% they said would have these nvg cards?, cant believe it was so fast and for a AAA, so will be others games necessary?, 200 to 400mb space for savegames, patches, expansions, etc.. x 4GB = 10-20 games AAA or less?, 4 gb is nothing today for the content via network.

      I think is more a antipiracy method than other bullshit for the future, for sure.
      When did I justify something? When did I say that the cartridge being full is more likely to be the case? I am not being ignorant, but you are putting words in my mouth because I infact believe that Sony are doing it for more money.

      I simply said a possibility because everyone was stating their opinion as if it is a fact. Please double-read my posts in the future.
    1. Iconoclass's Avatar
      Iconoclass -
      Quote Originally Posted by krytonic View Post
      When did I justify something? When did I say that the cartridge being full is more likely to be the case?
      Justify:

      To justify action that converts or transforms what was wrong or not according to the rules, fair or true, according to a criterion of justice, truth or standards:


      You need to read twice what you write dude, call "ignorant" to someone who expresses his opinion, indicates that what you say is true and the others are wrong.
    1. DogDead's Avatar
      DogDead -
      Are people bothered more about having to buy a memory card or the fact they have to buy a specific memory card produced by Sony?
    1. krytonic's Avatar
      krytonic -
      Quote Originally Posted by Iconoclass View Post
      Justify:

      To justify action that converts or transforms what was wrong or not according to the rules, fair or true, according to a criterion of justice, truth or standards:


      You need to read twice what you write dude, call "ignorant" to someone who expresses his opinion, indicates that what you say is true and the others are wrong.
      Stating a possibility that you believe is not the most likely case is not justifying something, so you still put words in my mouth.

      I called people ignorant because they were thinking their opinion is a fact. If you think a opinion is a fact, an opinion on something before it is even released and they know nothing about it, that is being ignorant.
    1. ahou's Avatar
      ahou -
      Quote Originally Posted by DogDead View Post
      Are people bothered more about having to buy a memory card or the fact they have to buy a specific memory card produced by Sony?
      That we have to buy a memory card that costs 4-6x more than a competing one that would work just as well.
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