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  • Proposed Sony Plans To Use Biometrics To Prevent Piracy

    DRM has really come a long way from the days of entering the word at page 6, line 3, word 2 of the user manual to be able to play your purchased games. A recent patent by Sony involves the use of eye scanners, finger prints and possibly DNA to verify that you are the owner of a piece of software. I just thought you guys would like a taste of the possible future for Sony products and DRM


    About the patent:
    Website playstationlifestyle.net uncovered recently a Sony patent that describes a system to track your fingerprints, iris, and dna in order to prevent hacking and piracy, as well as for targeted advertising purpose. Sounds like a great idea… not.

    Your Identity and your privacy are today the major assets giant tech companies fight to control. Google has proven that targeted advertising is a very profitable business, and all companies want their share of the loot on your personal information. Beyond this, companies like Sony, that sell digital products, are spending considerable amounts of money to protect their products from piracy, through the use of malware DRMs.

    In and “ideal” world, DRMs would recognize the person who paid for some specific digital content, and let that person use the digital content on whatever hardware they want, whenever they want. This was, actually, the promise of DRMs and of the cloud. But practically, what DRMs actually are today is a strong limitation in how you can use your purchased content, which is usually restricted to a few devices (it used to be 5 for Sony, it is now 2), a few allowed copies (something that goes along the law of many countries), and is in general a major pain in the a##. People who bought Ubisoft games recently might know what I am talking about. Bottom line is, DRMs are not doing what they are supposed to do.

    Sony think they might have a solution, by providing a patent which proposes to recognize a user through biometrics, such as their fingerprints, iris, or DNA. Such a system they say, would allow to create a system such as “By associating content with an authorized user, each download may be made unique so that only the authorized user (e.g., one who has paid for the content) will be able to access it. Such a technique may be used to prevent hacking or copying to steal music, software, video games or other copyrighted content“.


    In other parts of the patent, Sony explain: “the invention can be used to prevent unauthorized sharing of online accounts. A biometric identifier, such as a fingerprint ID, that is generated during ordinary use of the online content allows the content server to determine whether a user attempting to access an online account is the user associated with that account.”

    Sony also mentions improvements to targeted advertising, when your device (potentially your console) knows who is actually currently using it.

    Well, I’m all for the possibility to play the content I purchased everywhere I want. But storing my DNA on the servers of the number 1 target of hackers worldwide is definitely not the solution to that. How about we simply get rid of DRMs, and let people enjoy the content they purchased however they want? Last time I checked, selling mp3s without DRM seemed to work pretty well for companies like Apple and Amazon. HumbleBundle is doing great with DRM free video games, etc…

    Hopefully, this is one of those patents that get filled but never used… How about you, would you like Sony to play with your biometric information? Do you think hacks in the future will require you to alter your DNA with the help of radioactive injections?

    Source: PlaystationLifeStyle.NET
    Source: Wololo.NET (Thanks Rand )
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    Comments 51 Comments
    1. Thorn's Avatar
      Thorn -
      **** that shit
    1. krytonic's Avatar
      krytonic -
      Quote Originally Posted by yes159 View Post
      Lol, i'm glad to see that people take this with humor Pretty ridiculous, especially the DNA stuff. There isnt a home device that simply can scan your DNA like that. Fingerprint and iris scanners are old, although i'm not sure that iris scanners are advanced/cheap enough yet for home usage?

      I laughed at the comic too, although the serial keys are mainly used to prevent used sales, not mainly piracy.
      There is actually a country scanning everyone's eyes using a webcam... For the whole retina thing on their IDs. They are literally just using a webcam and a computer. All you need is a webcam with a high enough resolution and decent software.
    1. RandQalan's Avatar
      RandQalan -
      Quote Originally Posted by krytonic View Post
      There is actually a country scanning everyone's eyes using a webcam... For the whole retina thing on their IDs. They are literally just using a webcam and a computer. All you need is a webcam with a high enough resolution and decent software.
      Thanks for proving my point with Vita cam
    1. krytonic's Avatar
      krytonic -
      Quote Originally Posted by RandQalan View Post
      Thanks for proving my point with Vita cam
      How did I prove your point? I said a webcam with a high enougth resolution... The vita cam does not have the quality needed. Sorry but Sony are not spying on your webcam while you play games! LOL xD
    1. RandQalan's Avatar
      RandQalan -
      theory not practice at least I hope

      Why do you think I mean they do they could if they wanted to thou
    1. krytonic's Avatar
      krytonic -
      Quote Originally Posted by RandQalan View Post
      theory not practice at least I hope

      Why do you think I mean they do they could if they wanted to thou
      Some people would notice straight away the bandwidth usage.
    1. Gradius's Avatar
      Gradius -
      Quote Originally Posted by JOshISPoser View Post
      you just might, you don't know. people back in the day (before my day) said they'd never publicly release their information, those exact people are on facebook...
      Rand could be right and there's lots of people using the vita and just saying whatever at this point; they just want to game.
      When I said never, is meant.

      For example, I totally HATE facebook and of course, never sign up there.
    1. bobbintb's Avatar
      bobbintb -
      Quote Originally Posted by JOshISPoser View Post
      people just can't allow them to be subjected to this though and they probably would do it blindly and with open arms, especially if they feel like they're fitting in. 1983 was wrong cause we all are welcoming big brother and don't even know it.
      1983?

    1. yes159's Avatar
      yes159 -
      Quote Originally Posted by krytonic View Post
      There is actually a country scanning everyone's eyes using a webcam... For the whole retina thing on their IDs. They are literally just using a webcam and a computer. All you need is a webcam with a high enough resolution and decent software.
      Which country is this and why do they do it?

      But what i said was only about the DNA. I know that fingerprint scanners are cheap, and for scanning an eye, all you need is a camera as you say (when i said that this was ridiculous, i was only referring to implementing something like this to be used for every single game ). Scanning, reading and storing DNA is on a whole different level.
    1. Ziken's Avatar
      Ziken -
      lulz. if Sony actually did this, how in the world would they be able to do this? that would mean that all local stores would have to implement the device just for the game itself to be registered on your list.

      and this is even a stupider idea, cuz sony would require to have a high level security on their database to prevent theft and we all KNOW there no such things as high level security. not unless you have 10 hacker working around the clock to defend it.

      but then, dna, retina, fingerprint and whatever else that sony comes up with already been easily bypassed. i've seen people using fake fingerprint to robbery, or just taking a blood and storing it in a vital.

      oh fack, this mean that if they get their hand on my fingerprint/retina/blood, they can make purchase using my fingerprint/retina/blood. oh man, are we so facked.
    1. JaMarie's Avatar
      JaMarie -
      Why get all worked up about something that will never see the light of day .... privacy advocates groups would have a field day with this .......