PNM Project Update - 3.60 Slim Flash Dumped - 3.6x+ Keys Coming Soon

[tonybologna]

I think the thread title is misleading. There is NO PROOF that 3.60+ keys are coming soon. It just inflates everyone's hopes! Can the keys be gotten from this dump? Quite possible but there's no proof the keys are going to be provided once this guy gets back! Are you guys actually believing that? There's no proof period. We're going by somebody saying COMING SOON! I respect any & all developers/hackers but we have to be smart here. Rumors & fake claims are abound these days. Especially when it comes to the keys! Thanks!

[M0KUJINKEN]

in this three weeks you will be chased by sony hahahahaha

oh ha ha hotz joke
hotz got busted cos he went public. everybody knew where he lives, his school , his face!

[master737373]

Per console root key will make everything open. 3.60+ CFW on all units made before hardware change.

*gasp* but, but, but, what about people with 3.56+ without a NAND/NOR flasher?

Edit: Then again, with the per console root key, they could do whatever they want to/with bootldr to allow their own cfw to work.

[Grudge1981]

oh ha ha hotz joke
hotz got busted cos he went public. everybody knew where he lives, his school , his face!

what about grafchocolo? i dont think he was public with his info, but he was caught. Granted no_one could be posting his work from a random unsecured wifi source so it doesnt trace back to him. we will see in a month or so...

[M0KUJINKEN]

public hotspot dude & wifi hacking made ez with youtube.

[knowthyself]

Without Hotz and team overflow this scene is dead. The same way xbox360 hacking would be without c4eva and teamjungle.

[xPreatorianx]

Per console root key will make everything open. 3.60+ CFW on all units made before hardware change.

Isn't that what I said?

The only keys we will probably end up using are the per console root key. Which unlocks everything.

Notice the bold parts? Seriously... I didn't need it repeated in a different way.

EDIT: Jesus christ what is wrong with this site? The damn site is lagging like crazy. The last few times I've posted in this topic it has taken 5 minutes to actually post. My internet isn't horrible by any stretch of the means. Plus it's only this site that is doing it. I'm running 25mb/s down and 20mb/s up on fiber optic.

Without Hotz and team overflow this scene is dead. The same way xbox360 hacking would be without c4eva and teamjungle.

How so? Failoverflow didn't really even release anything. They never released anything under the "failoverflow" banner. You people preaching about the death of the scene really don't pay attention to the news do you? Emulators are being updated every day, cobra just came out, glevland/gitbrew are continually making strides, we have ATLEAST 2-3 hardware implementations coming out, we have that CFW from jaicrab, possibly JFW, and the recent Teensy 2.0++ flasher software. The scene isn't dead by any stretch of the means. Geohotz released one thing. That was it. Well actually two things. A half baked CFW, plus the metldr keys. Fail overflow release their tools and then they were done. We have had far more releases in this scene since both of those names left. Hell Graf did far more for the scene in all honesty.

So no the scene isn't dead. Unless your definition of dead is actually the definition for alive. Which in that case, yes your right. The scene is "dead"(read alive).

Jesus people and their "OMG OMG the scene is dead" crap. Every single day something gets released we have one or two idiots who say the scene is dead.

I also love how you talk about Team jungle and C4EVA on the 360 scene. When there are other people that do the JTAG side of things. So even if C4EVA left there would still be people releasing things.

But if the scene is dead, why are you even here? LMAO!

[adrianc]

Per console root key will make everything open. 3.60+ CFW on all units made before hardware change.

No, it won't. To take advantage of the root key it will still require a flasher.

[xPreatorianx]

No, it won't. To take advantage of the root key it will still require a flasher.

Ya because won't we have to actually add it to the nand or nor? (I could be wrong but that's what I'm guessing.) I haven't researched about this per console root key yet. So I have no idea how to actually use it. I just know what it "can" do. Well actually it would help unlock the rest of the chain of trust. But how do you actually incorporate it?

EDIT : Again with the double post. This site is lagging horribly.

[master737373]

THe root key isn't anywhere near the NAND/NOR. So you wouldn't need a flasher. You'd need a flasher to test whatever cfw you make using it though to be safe. The only thing on the NAND/NOR that can be used to unlock "everything" is bootldr and that is encrypted with the per console root key. By "everything," I mean everything devs would need for a CFW since the per console root key decrypts the bootldr but after the bootldr is decrypted and used, according to the devwiki, it gets "destroyed." So I'm guessing no where to be found.

[adrianc]

THe root key isn't anywhere near the NAND/NOR. So you wouldn't need a flasher. You'd need a flasher to test whatever cfw you make using it though to be safe. The only thing on the NAND/NOR that can be used to unlock "everything" is bootldr and that is encrypted with the per console root key. By "everything," I mean everything devs would need for a CFW since the per console root key decrypts the bootldr but after the bootldr is decrypted and used, according to the devwiki, it gets "destroyed." So I'm guessing no where to be found.

Let me clarify: If you are on 3.56+ you would need a flasher.

-adrianc

[master737373]

Let me clarify: If you are on 3.56+ you would need a flasher.

-adrianc

I should've quoted, but, it was in response to 2 posts above mine about needing a flasher for getting the root key. But for any cfw fir anyone with 3.56+, a flasher is much needed.

[p0tsm0ke]

great stuff here just want to say thanks in advance again the scene would not be a scene with out people that help out. to N00B'S out there why do u keep asking when something will come from this where is CFW and all this other stuff when all that stuff is in play then we will have everything we want. If you are looking to play on PSN and hack away and all that crap then dont even wait go update your PS3 and keep it updated because u have no biz in this area

[knowthyself]

How so? Failoverflow didn't really even release anything. They never released anything under the "failoverflow" banner. You people preaching about the death of the scene really don't pay attention to the news do you? Emulators are being updated every day, cobra just came out, glevland/gitbrew are continually making strides, we have ATLEAST 2-3 hardware implementations coming out, we have that CFW from jaicrab, possibly JFW, and the recent Teensy 2.0++ flasher software. The scene isn't dead by any stretch of the means. Geohotz released one thing. That was it. Well actually two things. A half baked CFW, plus the metldr keys. Fail overflow release their tools and then they were done. We have had far more releases in this scene since both of those names left. Hell Graf did far more for the scene in all honesty.

So no the scene isn't dead. Unless your definition of dead is actually the definition for alive. Which in that case, yes your right. The scene is "dead"(read alive).

Jesus people and their "OMG OMG the scene is dead" crap. Every single day something gets released we have one or two idiots who say the scene is dead.

I also love how you talk about Team jungle and C4EVA on the 360 scene. When there are other people that do the JTAG side of things. So even if C4EVA left there would still be people releasing things.

But if the scene is dead, why are you even here? LMAO!

I'm looking the news for a 3.60 custom firmware, why else?

The scene is all about hacking for piracy and only that, anything that isn't, isn't "The Scene". If PC and consoles games/softwares were free, or without security measures, there would be no scene, no one cares about your f*ing homebrews unless it aims at piracy, directly or indirectly, and I include any firmware that isn't 3.60+, it has been done, thanks to kmeaw, next call. DVDdecrypter wasn't part of the scene, mIRC, FTP and uTorrent either, even though they are great tools. A scene group hacks softwares, they don't release their own, we don't need their tools, just the final hacked product. A FTP or IRC client for the PS3 is a nice software but isn't The Scene, bringing Linux back even less. All you need is a custom firmware, a game loader and an original PS3 game, everything else could not exist it wouldn't change a thing. If you want Linux, a WebServer, a software development computer, etc. buy a PC, the only thing a PS3 do that a PC doesn't is playing PS3 games (add PS1 and PS2 in "HD"), everything else is irrelevant to pirates, and if we can't find what we are looking for we are gone and the remains aren't sufficient to justify a "scene", where's the xbox1 scene mate? If someone releases a custom firmware that plays PS2 backups on slim models that'd be new, but it ain't happening, it never will. A 3.60cfw could be on hold until the big releases of autumn, to avoid new keys and wasting all the work, but fame is up for grab and in the scene no one waits, ever, it's the absolute opposite, that's why waninkoko bricked so many playstations. Every coders on PC and Xbox operates under a pseudonym that can't be tracked, why would PS3 Scene be any different, hackers are supposedly scared of the big corporation all of a sudden so nothing big gets release? Sony aren't dumb, they know skillful hackers in the wild is a rare occurrence nowadays, that's why they shut Hotz and Graf down, that's why the scene is dead, because there is always but a few key players. By the way, I didn't mention Graf because his work hasn't been instrumental in enabling piracy as of yet (to my knowledge that is, if his hypervisor work did then I should have mentionned him). Now we can argue whether the scene is dead because of a lack of talent, or that failoverflow's panel helped Sony build a bulletproof console (read "firmware"), the money they saved Sony's on 3.6+ piracy could have bought them a IBM supercomputer running Linux... that's fail right there, but one thing is sure, this Scene is dead. Everything new that gets release isn't new, the last time something brand new was released was ****PSN almost 3-4 months ago, since then nothing. We've been updating multiman and bdemu, what else? Sure, there is new DLCs, the few that works, but since there has been no discovery on hacking DLCs per-say, I do not, per example, consider scorpion2k's work on MK9 something new, it's similar to what blackotoo has been doing all along, the majority of what's on PSN is still locked.

DEAD! Well technically in a coma, but until proven otherwise, dead as in "not alive".

[yoshi314]

How so? Failoverflow didn't really even release anything. They never released anything under the "failoverflow" banner.

not the one to nitpick, but they had git repo on their site and all the basic decryption/encryption tools were hosted there. they did release the ungpkg, unpkg, unself and bunch of similar essential tools.

after they had to take it down the repositories were mirrored elsewhere.

[Jay-Jay]

If someone releases a custom firmware that plays PS2 backups on slim models that'd be new, but it ain't happening, it never will.

Isn't this more of a hardware issue than a software issue for the PS3 Slim not able to support PS2 games?

[xPreatorianx]

I'm looking the news for a 3.60 custom firmware, why else?

The scene is all about hacking for piracy and only that, anything that isn't, isn't "The Scene". If PC and consoles games/softwares were free, or without security measures, there would be no scene, no one cares about your f*ing homebrews unless it aims at piracy, directly or indirectly, and I include any firmware that isn't 3.60+, it has been done, thanks to kmeaw, next call. DVDdecrypter wasn't part of the scene, mIRC, FTP and uTorrent either, even though they are great tools. A scene group hacks softwares, they don't release their own, we don't need their tools, just the final hacked product. A FTP or IRC client for the PS3 is a nice software but isn't The Scene, bringing Linux back even less. All you need is a custom firmware, a game loader and an original PS3 game, everything else could not exist it wouldn't change a thing. If you want Linux, a WebServer, a software development computer, etc. buy a PC, the only thing a PS3 do that a PC doesn't is playing PS3 games (add PS1 and PS2 in "HD"), everything else is irrelevant to pirates, and if we can't find what we are looking for we are gone and the remains aren't sufficient to justify a "scene", where's the xbox1 scene mate? If someone releases a custom firmware that plays PS2 backups on slim models that'd be new, but it ain't happening, it never will. A 3.60cfw could be on hold until the big releases of autumn, to avoid new keys and wasting all the work, but fame is up for grab and in the scene no one waits, ever, it's the absolute opposite, that's why waninkoko bricked so many playstations. Every coders on PC and Xbox operates under a pseudonym that can't be tracked, why would PS3 Scene be any different, hackers are supposedly scared of the big corporation all of a sudden so nothing big gets release? Sony aren't dumb, they know skillful hackers in the wild is a rare occurrence nowadays, that's why they shut Hotz and Graf down, that's why the scene is dead, because there is always but a few key players. By the way, I didn't mention Graf because his work hasn't been instrumental in enabling piracy as of yet (to my knowledge that is, if his hypervisor work did then I should have mentionned him). Now we can argue whether the scene is dead because of a lack of talent, or that failoverflow's panel helped Sony build a bulletproof console (read "firmware"), the money they saved Sony's on 3.6+ piracy could have bought them a IBM supercomputer running Linux... that's fail right there, but one thing is sure, this Scene is dead. Everything new that gets release isn't new, the last time something brand new was released was ****PSN almost 3-4 months ago, since then nothing. We've been updating multiman and bdemu, what else? Sure, there is new DLCs, the few that works, but since there has been no discovery on hacking DLCs per-say, I do not, per example, consider scorpion2k's work on MK9 something new, it's similar to what blackotoo has been doing all along, the majority of what's on PSN is still locked.

DEAD! Well technically in a coma, but until proven otherwise, dead as in "not alive".

Wow your ignorant. No the scene is not all about hacking for piracy. Maybe you are confusing this scene with the 360? How the hell is it not the scene? You obviously haven't a ****ing clue what your talking about. Why do I need to buy a PC if I want to use linux on the PS3? I BOUGHT MY PS3 WITH OTHEROS SUPPORT! It was an advertised feature. Likewise speak for your damn self. This scene is not strictly about piracy. This scene includes emulators, homebrew, linux, etc. But if you think otherwise why don't you just go to a piracy only scene like the 360? That would give you everything you need. (not talking about the JTAG side.)

Just because your a pirate and think the only things of value are piracy enabling features, doesn't mean the scene is built upon it. The scene is far from dead. Piracy is not a basis to classify this as a dead scene. Likewise a "scene" isn't just for piracy. You really should look terms up before you use them.

That entire post is just down right laughable. Well we know who you are now. A low life pirate who has no respect for any developers.

This scene is based upon linux and homebrew. Piracy is just a by product. All the developers except for wanin and possibly Kamew did everything they did for linux and homebrew. So the scene is not based solely around piracy, nor is it an accurate basis for comparing the scene's quality. Your just a ****ing pirate and you bring absolutely no valuable contributions to this scene/site/ etc so just do us all a favor and find some place else to spew your shit.

You are also forgetting almost every single release that is in this scene. If you wanna talk about piracy, yea it's been dead for quite awhile. But if you wanna talk about the real reasons why this scene exists, it's still quite active. That's evident in the recent news from the past three to five days. Why don't you just save yourself the trouble and go to the ISO based sites? We don't need a newb like yourself here who is only a leecher and nothing else.

not the one to nitpick, but they had git repo on their site and all the basic decryption/encryption tools were hosted there. they did release the ungpkg, unpkg, unself and bunch of similar essential tools.

after they had to take it down the repositories were mirrored elsewhere.

Ahh that's right. I stand corrected. I apologize.

Isn't this more of a hardware issue than a software issue for the PS3 Slim not able to support PS2 games?

Yea it's a hardware issue. he just doesn't have enough knowledge on the PS3 in general to realize that fact.

[knowthyself]

Wow... etc.

I am perfectly aware the first gen had the PS2 emotion engine chip, hardware, and the second gen some sort of software emulation, for someone who call me ignorant you make a lot of assumptions yourself.

Look the amount of comments homebrews get versus custom firmwares on the main page, homebrews numbers are pale compared to firmwares and the closer to a 3.60cfw development a story gets the more comments it gets, those are factual numbers. Now, compare the threads and replies counts of the Open Source & Homebrew forum versus the PS3 game backup forum, open both and see the amount of "views" favoring the backup threads by a factor of 10, now you see for yourself who's talking out his ass, you. Keep convincing yourself people come here for the homebrew and software development.

I won't argue on semantics, but The Scene has always been about piracy, there isn't multiple scene, but only one, the piracy "scene", warez. The PS3 part of it hasn't move in months, care to tell me anything piracy wise that was release since f*ckPSN? You precised you are talking about an homebrew "scene", fine. But I'm making a point about why we are here, maybe not you, but the majority of us.

I state facts, you deal in opinions. I'm not saying homebrews shouldn't exist. And surely not saying it would be non-existent without piracy, but take piracy away and this website is a shadow of itself. You can say "I bought a PS3 for otherOS" as much as you want, but Sony removed it without a care because almost nobody uses it, you probably account for 5%, probably less. AND don't call me a leech when you cry for Linux you cheap bastard, buy yourself a 600$ computer and quit whining about Linux. Devs aren't the ones running the show, we pirates are, we crowd the arena and give the sport (scene) a reason to exist, without us there is no one playing, but as long as we are here there will be someone somewhere to play for our entertainment, to hack (pirate) stuff up for their own fame and our enjoyment. Homebrew IS the by-product. Linux isn't thriving on PC, a lot of its infrastructure is used to distributed piracy, that's by-product right there. Realize the reality you live in or get lost, immature punk.

[ccfman2004]

I am perfectly aware the first gen had the PS2 emotion engine chip, hardware, and the second gen some sort of software emulation, for someone who call me ignorant you make a lot of assumptions yourself.

Look the amount of comments homebrews get versus custom firmwares on the main page, homebrews numbers are pale compared to firmwares and the closer to a 3.60cfw development a story gets the more comments it gets, those are factual numbers. Now, compare the threads and replies counts of the Open Source & Homebrew forum versus the PS3 game backup forum, open both and see the amount of "views" favoring the backup threads by a factor of 10, now you see for yourself who's talking out his ass, you. Keep convincing yourself people come here for the homebrew and software development.

I won't argue on semantics, but The Scene has always been about piracy, there isn't multiple scene, but only one, the piracy "scene", warez. The PS3 part of it hasn't move in months, care to tell me anything piracy wise that was release since f*ckPSN? You precised you are talking about an homebrew "scene", fine. But I'm making a point about why we are here, maybe not you, but the majority of us.

I state facts, you deal in opinions. I'm not saying homebrews shouldn't exist. And surely not saying it would be non-existent without piracy, but take piracy away and this website is a shadow of itself. You can say "I bought a PS3 for otherOS" as much as you want, but Sony removed it without a care because almost nobody uses it, you probably account for 5%, probably less. AND don't call me a leech when you cry for Linux you cheap bastard, buy yourself a 600$ computer and quit whining about Linux. Devs aren't the ones running the show, we pirates are, we crowd the arena and give the sport (scene) a reason to exist, without us there is no one playing, but as long as we are here there will be someone somewhere to play for our entertainment, to hack (pirate) stuff up for their own fame and our enjoyment. Homebrew IS the by-product. Linux isn't thriving on PC, a lot of its infrastructure is used to distributed piracy, that's by-product right there. Realize the reality you live in or get lost, immature punk.

Please leave.

[Jay-Jay]

@knowthyself, all your points have been noted and also discussed before. Currently in another section of this forum we have an ongoing topic named "The Great Piracy Debate". You will read how often your points have been discussed before in that topic and in others as well. There is absolutely no doubt that some do this for only piracy, while others are happier with other features that don't necessarily have to do with piracy--like backing up their own games to make them last longer is one example. Can we just agree that we all know that some do it for one thing, while others do it for another? And just leave it as that?

As for stating that the scene is dead, here is where I choose to agree to disagree with you. I think this scene is still in its infancy. Its hasn't been that long ago since the PS3 was jailbroken. And we have seen many developments after and continue to do so as time passes by. I think it's safe to say, that we are just getting started. Hopefully those that are split with this disagreement, can both someday just reap the benefits of sticking with the scene a little much longer.