UPDATE: Open Gaming Console For Developers & Hackers Alike

[Mathematician]

@Mathematician
You missed my whole point. The reason why tablets and etc.. do so well is because of the gaming portion. Which is why graphics are a deal breaker when it comes to the 3rd generation consoles. Online gaming got so big that they weigh more on graphics/gameplay than actual story mode. Why invest 2million into a project that wouldn't do good? Anyways... their project I just think it's going to be a waste of time.

And my whole point has nothing to do with the console but how much you fail at being accurate.

[Goku1992]

And my whole point has nothing to do with the console but how much you fail at being accurate.

Whatever what's said is said I'll leave it at that.

[ChillyCat]

how much you fail at being accurate.

on more levels than just this topic

[real2k]

Tell u whut.. will a buy one? yeah I'll buy one if this is real.... but I HOPE they make it bigger and better... I dont mind a fully functioning high end pc gaming consal... but I HOPE its high end.. and open.. actually thats whut the whole scene is about... having a high end maciene that lets u do ALOT of any and everything, thats whut a ps3 is or a 360... just a super gaming computer.. cpu's gpu's just fully dedicated for all your gaming needs.. but I HOPE 4 better I want the net level of technollagy already... fully 3D gaming and everything u could want... ((peace)) OuT!

[krytonic]

Why are people arguing over a open games console? Weather you like the fact it is android and not a super computer or not, this is still a move in the right direction which has the potential to send Sony and Microsoft a message if successful.

I'm not usually the one to say this but you guys need to chill, an open console is nothing but a good thing, crap or not.

[Tranced]

I agree with krytonic. Lets keep it civilized.

[CS67700]

They're already reaching the 4 million US$.
Which is kinda huge, they could add better hardware to the console with this kind of budget.

Android is the way to go, no doubt about it, but playing flash games on HDTV ? It's going to be pretty ugly and boring.

However this could be the first step to a new breed of consoles (like the F2P MMO's) and could stop the reign of Sony and Microsoft. They would also be forced to adapt to the new market (cheaper consoles, cheaper games) or risk loosing market shares.

Tired of seeing Sony rape their costumers ass with outrageous prices and horrible costumer service. Hopefully some company will follow this model in few years and build a real competitive console with the same principles (if it's successful it will likely happen).

[yes159]

We don't know the cost of it yet so no you don't know that.

You're right that we dont know the final retail price yet, but you can get a OUYA for $99 on Kickstarter right now. There are thousands of free slots, so there isnt any big hurry just yet. A Xperia Play is like $250 - $300, so the Kickstarter pirc is already cheaper than a Xperia Play.

Even if dont know the final retail price, i can already guarantee you that the retail price for OUYA will be lower than $250 - $300. Having a retail price of that means that it is more expencive than Xbox 360 and PS3. It is the same way that i can guarantee that Grand Theft Auto 5 will be on PS3 and Xbox 360 eventhough that no platforms have been announced yet for that game.

The retail price might be higher than $99, but if they want to keep this competitive, i'd say it would be a bad decition to increase this price a lot. I could see a retail price of $149, but that is still much less than what a Xperia Play currently costs.

[bobbintb]

They're already reaching the 4 million US$.
Which is kinda huge, they could add better hardware to the console with this kind of budget.

Android is the way to go, no doubt about it, but playing flash games on HDTV ? It's going to be pretty ugly and boring.

However this could be the first step to a new breed of consoles (like the F2P MMO's) and could stop the reign of Sony and Microsoft. They would also be forced to adapt to the new market (cheaper consoles, cheaper games) or risk loosing market shares.

Tired of seeing Sony rape their costumers ass with outrageous prices and horrible costumer service. Hopefully some company will follow this model in few years and build a real competitive console with the same principles (if it's successful it will likely happen).

exactly.

[krytonic]

They're already reaching the 4 million US$.
Which is kinda huge, they could add better hardware to the console with this kind of budget.

Android is the way to go, no doubt about it, but playing flash games on HDTV ? It's going to be pretty ugly and boring.

However this could be the first step to a new breed of consoles (like the F2P MMO's) and could stop the reign of Sony and Microsoft. They would also be forced to adapt to the new market (cheaper consoles, cheaper games) or risk loosing market shares.

Tired of seeing Sony rape their costumers ass with outrageous prices and horrible costumer service. Hopefully some company will follow this model in few years and build a real competitive console with the same principles (if it's successful it will likely happen).

Yeah it goes with what i said that it has the potential to send Sony and Microsoft a message.

If this is successful, Sony and Microsoft will try to hold out for as long as they can before giving into a more open console with reasonable prices for games, but eventually they would have to fall in line if they want to stay in the market.

[FreakAlchemist]

@krytonic I can't wait for that day.

[krytonic]

@krytonic I can't wait for that day.

Yeah the prices just keep getting worse.

PSX games were £20
PS2 games were £30
PS3 games came out as £40, but now some are £50 and we're not even on the PS4 yet.

[CS67700]

Yeah the prices just keep getting worse.

PSX games were £20
PS2 games were £30
PS3 games came out as £40, but now some are £50 and we're not even on the PS4 yet.

That's because there's more greedy peoples between the development, manufacturing, and finally selling of the game.
Steam has found a way to sell cheaper games by eliminating the production costs and packaging.

Now we're even seeing "CD key" resellers on the internet, selling their games for 50% cheaper.
It's only restricted to PC games at the moment, but we're heading towards games without physical support.

This is going to kill local video game resellers for sure, but hey, tired of getting milked by greedy companies.
Lower your CEO's salary and commercialize cheaper products, then you might get your costumers back.

[Kenzya]

but eventually they would have to fall in line if they want to stay in the market.

This will never happen. Neither Microsoft, Sony, nor Nintendo will ever make an "open" console. That would be batshit insane. Video games is still a BILLION dollar industry and still makes all three of these companies lots of money (except maybe Sony haha). The Ouya is still a niche product no matter how you look at it and it will never ever reach the install base of something like a 360, PS3, or Wii. Microshit and Brony have nothing to worry about. If you think the Ouya will revolutionize the entire world's take on console gaming then you are living in a dream world and are probably someone naive enough to donate tons of money to this thing

Not really sure what you're saying about video game prices either.. PSX games were $50, PS2 games were $50, and now games are $60 EXCEPT there are TONS AND TONS AND TONS of smaller downloadable games that AREN'T ANYWHERE near those prices. There are MORE cheap games in the market today than there HAS EVER BEEN. Games don't even stay $60 for long anyway.

[krytonic]

This will never happen. Neither Microsoft, Sony, nor Nintendo will ever make an "open" console. That would be batshit insane. Video games is still a BILLION dollar industry and still makes all three of these companies lots of money (except maybe Sony haha). The Ouya is still a niche product no matter how you look at it and it will never ever reach the install base of something like a 360, PS3, or Wii. Microshit and Brony have nothing to worry about. If you think the Ouya will revolutionize the entire world's take on console gaming then you are living in a dream world and are probably someone naive enough to donate tons of money to this thing

Not really sure what you're saying about video game prices either.. PSX games were $50, PS2 games were $50, and now games are $60 EXCEPT there are TONS AND TONS AND TONS of smaller downloadable games that AREN'T ANYWHERE near those prices. There are MORE cheap games in the market today than there HAS EVER BEEN. Games don't even stay $60 for long anyway.

If this console is cheaper than all the others, a lot of parents will buy it for their kids because it will be cheap with free and cheap games. Their kids will grow up being used to open consoles, and start to demand it. A lot of people would start to buy these consoles instead, being used to the nature of them. Sony and Microsoft would lose money, their share in the market in danger if they don't adapt.

Also if you look at the prices i stated they were not in dollars. Maybe things have different prices in different countries? Sorry to break it to you but the entire world is not the same as America, the prices I put are 100% correct. I paid £20 for Final Fantasy VIII and I paid £30 for Final Fantasy X, from the same retail shop. I have bought plenty of games to know what the prices were in my own country.

I am not naive, you're just a little ignorant.

[CS67700]

The casual gaming is the future of video games.
I mean, look at how the Wii and the DS are selling.

They're cheap and are very simple consoles.
Peoples look at the price first, then they care about whats playable.

Same goes for TV's, average Joe wants to have the biggest screen he can have despite the picture quality.

Economy is bad, and it's not going to get better anytime soon.

A cheap console like this is going to sell like hot cakes if they promote it enough, believe it or not. The biggest market is the casual player, neither Sony nor Microsoft can attain those costumers yet, only Nintendo has managed to do it successfully.

If you look at Microsoft's evolution with the 360 you can clearly see that the Wii and DS has made them rethink their strategy. They're giving more into the casual recently (pet games, cameras, stupid family games, etc..).

Why would it be any different if the OUYA sells well ?
It will definitively change mentalities and change the market.

You have to know that hardcore gamers (the ones that care about graphics, performances, etc..) are a small part of the overall console market. And getting smaller with daddy, granny and mommy starting to play casual games (much bigger potential in terms of sales).

Those peoples look at the price and how fun it is. They don't give a flying f*ck about graphics or how cool the character looks.

And now let me ask you, what do you think Sony and Microsoft will do if they see market shares escaping from them, and start loosing a lot of money. Pretty easy.

[yes159]

That's because there's more greedy peoples between the development, manufacturing, and finally selling of the game.
Steam has found a way to sell cheaper games by eliminating the production costs and packaging.

Now we're even seeing "CD key" resellers on the internet, selling their games for 50% cheaper.
It's only restricted to PC games at the moment, but we're heading towards games without physical support.

This is going to kill local video game resellers for sure, but hey, tired of getting milked by greedy companies.
Lower your CEO's salary and commercialize cheaper products, then you might get your costumers back.

The main reason is because that making a game these days cost a lot more compared to before. It wouldnt be possible to make the same quality games that we see today if all of them should cost i.e 25 euro. Maybe some games could manage this like Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto, and other huge sellers, but far from all games would be able to survive on these low prices.

Many games on Steam cost like 40-50 euros when they come out. Steam has sales sometimes, but so does stores, especially the UK market. In the UK, games usually drop quite fast in price. I've bought maybe around 100 PS3 games from the UK because the prices there are so cheap. 99% of those games have cost me under £20 each, and these are all new games bought legit from i.e Play.com.

[CS67700]

The main reason is because that making a game these days cost a lot more compared to before. It wouldnt be possible to make the same quality games that we see today if all of them should cost i.e 25 euro. Maybe some games could manage this like Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto, and other huge sellers, but far from all games would be able to survive on these low prices.

Many games on Steam cost like 40-50 euros when they come out. Steam has sales sometimes, but so does stores, especially the UK market. In the UK, games usually drop quite fast in price. I've bought maybe around 100 PS3 games from the UK because the prices there are so cheap. 99% of those games have cost me under £20 each, and these are all new games bought legit from i.e Play.com.

Taxes and greedy peoples are a big part of the final price.
Actually, developers only get half if not less of each game.

[BahumatLord]

Probably less. Everybody has their hand out on these things. You've got CEO's, secretaries, managers, distributors, shippers, retailers, advertisers.....the list goes on. you get the idea

[gDrive]

With the advent of the "freemium"/"indie"/non-traditionalist gaming scenes, this gaming system (concept) has come just in time for that, and feature-wise et cetera (well, the proposed features), it is the gaming developers'/hackers' wet dream come true, but like others on here have said, it all depends on who will support/develop for the platform and how the consumers will respond when they see this.