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  • mmCM 04.18.05: Cobra Update

    multiMAN Cobra Manager (mmCM) gets updated to v04.18.05 BASE. This release improved compatibility to Cobra's USB CFW 4.30 for use with the Cobra USB Dongle, which has seen a small reduction in exclusive features offered. Thanks to the recent IrisManager updates. Not much info on this release other then it fixes compatibility issues for use with the Cobra Dongle. So that's good news to all you Cobra USB owners!



    Jan. 24th


    mmCM ver 04.18.05 BASE (20130124).pkg


    • Adds additional support/fixes to Cobra CFW 4.30
      --Dongle Required for Cobra Features



    Jan. 18th
    mmCM v4.18.04 BASE (20130118)

    • Added initial Support to Cobra 4.30 CFW
    • it seems to improves some games compatibility

    The last cobra update was from Nov 7th and since these multiMAN features have bee added to mmCM as well.

    multiMAN additions since last mmCM update




    Download: mmCM ver 04.18.05 BASE (20130124).pkg


    Source: Deank via Ps3crunch & GaryOPA of ps3crunch


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    Comments 28 Comments
    1. underball's Avatar
      underball -
      I still like Multiman, but this shit has been cuckolded by Iris for the PS1 ISO support. Dean should add that to Multiman now.
    1. Tranced's Avatar
      Tranced -
      @underball Thank you for your concerns. I'm sure deank will drop everything to assure you that this will be taken care of.

      SERIOUSLY? Don't be like that dude. I'm sure he will when time permits. Remember that we all have lives to attend to. So chill mate Have a
    1. corpse101's Avatar
      corpse101 -
      <sarcasm>I completely agree why hasn't Deank implemented ISO support for PSX PS2, and PSP. Ald why can MM cure world hunger yet? Doesnt he know we pay him by the HOUR! </SARCASM>

      If and when DeanK puts any effort into his project I appreciate it, even if it is not directly usable by me, like the Cobra features. I just hope he gets some sort of kickback from Cobra sales or something, because where would Cobra be if not for the great MM to back it up.


      And I am reminded of a quote from the Princess Bride underball:
      I do not think that word means what you think it means
    1. andre104623's Avatar
      andre104623 -
      Im still not going back to cobra till they fix there f***ed up CFW 4.30.
    1. Griff's Avatar
      Griff -
      Who cares if multiman has ps1 emulation put in? Really, there's plenty of ps1 psn pkg games floating around out there, plenty.. And guess what? You don't have to wait for an app to open to play them, they'll be right there on the xmb.. The retro arch devs have brought a ps emu to cfw recently and I'm sure it will improve.. Honestly last game with multiman is better and faster than iris... Until iris has an actual last game feature that can beat multimans load times and a linked showtime that can boot directly back and forth and a linked retro arch implementation.. It won't have a leg up on multiman. Idk about you guys but I'm more interested in seeing psp emulation working without a dongle.
    1. STLcardsWS's Avatar
      STLcardsWS -
      Who cares if multiman has ps1 emulation put in? Really, there's plenty of ps1 psn pkg games floating around out there, plenty.. And guess what? You don't have to wait for an app to open to play them, they'll be right there on the xmb.. The retro arch devs have brought a ps emu to cfw recently and I'm sure it will improve.. Honestly last game with multiman is better and faster than iris... Until iris has an actual last game feature that can beat multimans load times and a linked showtime that can boot directly back and forth and a linked retro arch implementation.. It won't have a leg up on multiman. Idk about you guys but I'm more interested in seeing psp emulation working without a dongle.


      Regarding PSone on RetroArch. It has reached it peak without a dynarec. The RetroArch devs.(Squarepusher for ps3) wanted to show what it was like with no dynarec and why the dynarec is so important for high end emulation, (Psone, n64 ect.). So without a dynarec expect no improvements.

      The PSN pkgs you spoke of also are limited in many titles. and your games have to be re-bought from PSN (We don't discuss piracy here so don't go and tell me about pirated copies )

      I like multiMAN as my first choice for a backup manager, but i do like what Iris is doing and shouldnt be over looked. The fact that they took an exclusive feature out of Cobra is a great thing alone.

      Also i agree PSP emulation without a dongle would be great .
    1. onizuka's Avatar
      onizuka -
      Quote Originally Posted by STLcardsWS View Post
      Regarding PSone on RetroArch. It has reached it peak without a dynarec. The RetroArch devs.(Squarepusher for ps3) wanted to show what it was like with no dynarec and why the dynarec is so important for high end emulation, (Psone, n64 ect.). So without a dynarec expect no improvements.

      The PSN pkgs you spoke of also are limited in many titles. and your games have to be re-bought from PSN (We don't discuss piracy here so don't go and tell me about pirated copies )

      I like multiMAN as my first choice for a backup manager, but i do like what Iris is doing and shouldnt be over looked. The fact that they took an exclusive feature out of Cobra is a great thing alone.

      Also i agree PSP emulation without a dongle would be great .
      With that said, looking forward to the PSX integration into Dean's Multiman!
    1. andre104623's Avatar
      andre104623 -
      Quote Originally Posted by STLcardsWS View Post
      Regarding PSone on RetroArch. It has reached it peak without a dynarec. The RetroArch devs.(Squarepusher for ps3) wanted to show what it was like with no dynarec and why the dynarec is so important for high end emulation, (Psone, n64 ect.). So without a dynarec expect no improvements.

      The PSN pkgs you spoke of also are limited in many titles. and your games have to be re-bought from PSN (We don't discuss piracy here so don't go and tell me about pirated copies )

      I like multiMAN as my first choice for a backup manager, but i do like what Iris is doing and shouldnt be over looked. The fact that they took an exclusive feature out of Cobra is a great thing alone.

      Also i agree PSP emulation without a dongle would be great .
      So what happened with dynarec why dont we see it in newer firmwares like REBUG and Rogero. With Rebug 4.21.2 we can write to Htab so couldn't we patch Htab to allow lv2 jit dynarec code execution? Just a thought I mean 3.56MA could do it.
    1. atreyu187's Avatar
      atreyu187 -
      Press and hold L1 upon starting Iris Manager and it loads the last game mounted, it isn't a separate app like MM last game app.
    1. underball's Avatar
      underball -
      Quote Originally Posted by Tranced View Post
      @underball Thank you for your concerns. I'm sure deank will drop everything to assure you that this will be taken care of.

      SERIOUSLY? Don't be like that dude. I'm sure he will when time permits. Remember that we all have lives to attend to. So chill mate Have a
      Don't be like what? It's not like Dean needs to figure out how to implement it. The functionality already exists in Multiman. The difference is you have to pay for it, which is completely lame. Now taht the cat is out of the bag wiht Iris, Dean should just implement it as a free feature of Multiman. My sneaking suspicion though is that he cannot because he is contractually bound by Cobra team not to, since he got paid by them to implement Cobra features into his software.
    1. Griff's Avatar
      Griff -
      Quote Originally Posted by atreyu187 View Post
      Press and hold L1 upon starting Iris Manager and it loads the last game mounted, it isn't a separate app like MM last game app.
      I know, but my point is its slower than last game.
    1. onizuka's Avatar
      onizuka -
      Quote Originally Posted by underball View Post
      Don't be like what? It's not like Dean needs to figure out how to implement it. The functionality already exists in Multiman. The difference is you have to pay for it, which is completely lame. Now taht the cat is out of the bag wiht Iris, Dean should just implement it as a free feature of Multiman. My sneaking suspicion though is that he cannot because he is contractually bound by Cobra team not to, since he got paid by them to implement Cobra features into his software.

      Dean has explicitly stated that this is not the case. What source do you have that verifies this claim?
    1. bitsbubba's Avatar
      bitsbubba -
      Quote Originally Posted by underball View Post
      I still like Multiman, but this shit has been cuckolded by Iris for the PS1 ISO support. Dean should add that to Multiman now.
      last time Dean added an Iris Manager exclusive it caused a war between devs

      Quote Originally Posted by atreyu187 View Post
      Press and hold L1 upon starting Iris Manager and it loads the last game mounted, it isn't a separate app like MM last game app.
      the main reason for lastGAME not to have to reload multiMAN so yeah no not the same, also like that lastGAME also shows the last game loaded without again having to reload multiMAN


      Edit: uh ohh D_Skywalk is going to accuse me of trolling again
    1. deank's Avatar
      deank -
      Quote Originally Posted by underball View Post
      Don't be like what? It's not like Dean needs to figure out how to implement it. The functionality already exists in Multiman. The difference is you have to pay for it, which is completely lame. Now taht the cat is out of the bag wiht Iris, Dean should just implement it as a free feature of Multiman. My sneaking suspicion though is that he cannot because he is contractually bound by Cobra team not to, since he got paid by them to implement Cobra features into his software.
      You are wrong and all the code that deals with the iso stuff is in the dongle, not in mM.
    1. deank's Avatar
      deank -
      Quote Originally Posted by bitsbubba View Post
      last time Dean added an Iris Manager exclusive it caused a war between devs
      Actually I never added anything Iris exclusive (although DS accused me of using the Hermes payload for 3.55).

      I never mentioned that the current Iris uses mM's patches for libfs (for bd-mirror for internal games), the detection of title/region and starting the PS1 discs from mM's googlecode source. The only reference is in their source code and a link to one pastie which I posted in october, but never in a changelog. So I guess we're even.
    1. onizuka's Avatar
      onizuka -
      So is it safe to say that implementing the PS1 support to MM sans Cobra would be impeding or their work? Am I misunderstanding that this feature is simply a hack/patch to enable a native feature of the PS3, no significant proprietary code to get it up and running was used?
    1. underball's Avatar
      underball -
      Quote Originally Posted by deank View Post
      Actually I never added anything Iris exclusive (although DS accused me of using the Hermes payload for 3.55).

      I never mentioned that the current Iris uses mM's patches for libfs (for bd-mirror for internal games), the detection of title/region and starting the PS1 discs from mM's googlecode source. The only reference is in their source code and a link to one pastie which I posted in october, but never in a changelog. So I guess we're even.
      And everyone who is interested in PSX ISO playing is dumping mM in favor of Iris.

      I much prefer your work, and the overall layout and features of mM, but partnering up with Cobra and making those features pay-only is some lame crap. especially since all it does is redirect the use of the already existing ps1_emu.self to read from a hard drive instead of the BD drive.

      Quote Originally Posted by deank View Post
      You are wrong and all the code that deals with the iso stuff is in the dongle, not in mM.
      and now it's in Iris, which is open source. - as it should be.
    1. deank's Avatar
      deank -
      Quote Originally Posted by underball View Post
      And everyone who is interested in PSX ISO playing is dumping mM in favor of Iris.
      Everyone is free to chose what to use.
    1. underball's Avatar
      underball -
      Quote Originally Posted by deank View Post
      Everyone is free to chose what to use.
      True, and I appreciate that. But personally, I'd rather have that functionality in mM and not have to use yet another emulator for PSX ISO support. I'm not trying to insult you here or denigrate your work. I'm a fan of mM and have been for years. Just being honest about how I feel about your recent alliance with Cobra. It feels wrong. I hope you reconsider at some point.
    1. deank's Avatar
      deank -
      Ok, let me put it in other words so you can understand me: mM and mmCM are two different applications. mmCM can deal with ISO files because the functions to do that are injected by the dongle (and I don't have access to these). mM can't do that (unless I implement them myself from scratch like Hermes). People (like you) wrongly assume that all these cobra features are hidden in mM and used only when dongle is connected - no, that's not the case and it never was - the code is not in mM at all.