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  • [Update 2]Metldr Exploit leaked by Unknown Group

    Well, the moment we have all been waiting for has finally come. It seems that long await metldr exploit has been leaked. However not much can be said by the program that is used itself or the team behind its release. However this would not probably mean anything you the end-user or the average NOOB, but this maybe a step forward to the likes of obtaining the private keys and eventually a CFW for higher firmware i.e 3.72, 3.73 etc.




    Here is a quote from PS3Crunch.

    Program: metldr838exploit
    Author: Unknown
    Usage: Unknown
    Reason: Unknown
    Before posting we had one our PS3 Crunching Developers look it over, and it seems to be a set of 'C' code and headers and an compiled ELF and SELF that exploits the 'chain of trust' to dump an 'unecrypted' version of your PS3 'metldr'.
    [UPDATED] See spoiler

    Spoiler



    It seems that mathieulh has been claiming that he he had the exploit and has now revealed how to use it.

    [UPDATE 2]
    New updates come about, as we now see a tutorial written out by PS3 developer lunuxx, who brought you paintown for the PS3.

    ***Warning*** This method will not give you CFW, this is only intended for the advanced users of the scene and for developers only. Messing up the EID will end up in getting your PS3 bricked please use caution when attempting this. PSX-Scene is in no way responsible if you mess up console during this process

    Tutorial

    Spoiler



    ***Warning*** This method will not give you CFW, this is only intended for the advanced users of the scene and for developers only. Messing up the EID will end up in getting your PS3 bricked please use caution when attempting this. PSX-Scene is in no way responsible if you mess up console during this process

    Once again please do take note that this intended towards the developers of the scene and not our end-user or average jailbreaker, especially those that are new to the scene. We here at PSX-Scene are posting this as a rumor as nothing has yet been confirmed.

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    EXCLUSIVE: PS3 'Metldr' Exploit been 'leaked'

    Via Mathieulh at lan.st
    Comments 215 Comments
    1. jamal94's Avatar
      jamal94 -
      Quote Originally Posted by yes159 View Post
      Techincally i think that you need the lv0 keys, but i think with the metldr exploit it is possible to get the lv0 keys. That is how i understand it at least.

      But about decrypting the eboots and PS3 OFW, yeah, that should be possible indeed. But the days of installing a modified .pup files (i.e CFW 3.72) is probably over. Maybe it will work on people who are already on CFW 3.55.
      .
      well actually if the device is on 3.72 u can downgrade using e3-flasher usb or similar products :PS3HAX NEWS NEW FLASHER 3.72 DOWNGRADE TO 3.55/

      & check my edit
      EDIT: when you have the private key which will be decrypted using meltdr , you can then decrypt any public key that sony release which mean you can decrypt any eboot forever , but the new consoles that come with 3.6+ installed it is different because the meltdr is updated meltdr2 and the patch will not work on it the same way , it need some time for the hackers to bypass the patched meltdr.2 but nothing is confirmed or known
    1. bboydocument's Avatar
      bboydocument -
      Quote Originally Posted by jamal94 View Post
      well actually if the device is on 3.72 u can downgrade using e3-flasher usb or similar products

      & check my edit
      EDIT: when you have the private key which will be decrypted using meltdr , you can then decrypt any public key that sony release which mean you can decrypt any eboot forever , but the new consoles that come with 3.6+ installed it is different because the meltdr is updated meltdr2 and the patch will not work on it the same way , it need some time for the hackers to bypass the patched meltdr.2 but nothing is confirmed or known
      256 NAND consoles still cannot be downgraded. Plus I wouldn't waste my money on that e3 junk. Downgrading should not be a solution any more
    1. bitsbubba's Avatar
      bitsbubba -
      Quote Originally Posted by bboydocument View Post
      256 NAND consoles still cannot be downgraded. Plus I wouldn't waste my money on that e3 junk. Downgrading should not be a solution any more
      correction 256 Nand can be downgraded w/ E3, Progskeet or Infectus whether YOU can downgrade using said flashers is YOUR problem but saying they can't is just not true!!
    1. bboydocument's Avatar
      bboydocument -
      Quote Originally Posted by bitsbubba View Post
      correction 256 Nand can be downgraded w/ E3, Progskeet or Infectus whether YOU can downgrade using said flashers is YOUR problem but saying they can't is just not true!!
      E3 NAND hasn't been released (yet). Not sure about the others.
    1. yoshi314's Avatar
      yoshi314 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
      Is that how developers are releasing exploits nowadays? Send an untraceable anonymous email, say that someone leaked it and it was your work. It sounds like it's a way to get credit for something buy not take responsibility for it being released. Clever
      seeing how aggressive sony is at dragging people to court - i find it perfectly understandable thing to do.

      either that or not release anything at all.
    1. illern's Avatar
      illern -
      Hi
      I'm not so knowledgeable in the PS3 hacking. I did long ago satellite hacking.
      Then they had unique keys = privita keys and shared keys = public keys.
      With unique keys they encrypted nothing but they used it to overwrite the data they wanted to change, for example if they want to overwrite lv0 key to a new one. With public keys they decryptera to data. I do not understand what the ps3 would like to encrypt with privite keys.
      If this is what I think should metldr key be the most importent key we can get, for if Sony want to change something in the ps3 so it is with metldr key that they will use.
      This should mean that we can get out all the keys we want then because metldr seems to be superior lv0.

      /illern
    1. bitsbubba's Avatar
      bitsbubba -
      Quote Originally Posted by bboydocument View Post
      E3 NAND hasn't been released (yet). Not sure about the others.
      all do Nand w/ soldering (even E3 Nor)
    1. Master_Teeee's Avatar
      Master_Teeee -
      Quote Originally Posted by illern View Post
      Hi
      I'm not so knowledgeable in the PS3 hacking. I did long ago satellite hacking.
      Then they had unique keys = privita keys and shared keys = public keys.
      With unique keys they encrypted nothing but they used it to overwrite the data they wanted to change, for example if they want to overwrite lv0 key to a new one. With public keys they decryptera to data. I do not understand what the ps3 would like to encrypt with privite keys.
      If this is what I think should metldr key be the most importent key we can get, for if Sony want to change something in the ps3 so it is with metldr key that they will use.
      This should mean that we can get out all the keys we want then because metldr seems to be superior lv0.

      /illern
      It follows the same principals of any signing process. Like SSL certificates for example. You NEED to have public encryption codes, otherwise, when you send someone an SSL encrypted message, they won't be able to open it and see anything understandable.

      For those who are actually interested in how this works, I would suggest avoiding the PS$ wiki, as it's pretty intense for someone with no background in such things, and simply read through:

      Transport Layer Security - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      The one section, under 'Description', will give you a rough understanding of how private and public encryption keys work. The same principals apply here, as they do in just about any security system that uses this method. The only difference being, that, with the P$3, you own both the server and the client in the connection, which allows it to be exploited. This is opposed to SSL, where you obviously only posses one or the other.
    1. zecavalo's Avatar
      zecavalo -
      Mathieulh on PS3crunch:

      "Just so you know, the first exploit from my post, which I like to call the "meta exploit" which allows to decrypt the metadata directly in the shared LS works on the bootloader."

      Thoughts anyone?
    1. illern's Avatar
      illern -
      Maybe I used wrong word. I know that SSL use public and private key.
      What I meant was that unique keys = Master keys = metldr key = unique for the ps3 you own.
      Master keys are used to change and overwrite existing codes and keys. Some ppl talking about that metldr are used to encrypt data. Why sent raw data then encrypt it in the ps3, so stupid are not Sony.
      Shared keys = every ps3 have same key = lv0 key.
      Shared keys are used to decrypt differnt encrypted data that are in the ps3 or files that gonna be loaded in the ps3.

      This should do ps3 like a open book.
      The problem in the metldr exlpoid are what I understand it's only possible to get out metldr keys in ps3 3.50. Do anyone knows if Sony a loaded new lv0 keys after 3.60+. If they have then this way will not help us to reach 3.73 cfw. If not they updated the lv0 keys using metldr then will lv0 be the same in 3.50 and3.73. If they update the key then the update must be done with metldr key and it's possible to log that communication and decrypt it.
      I don't think they have that, becouse then the update only could have been done to a ps3 server that compleid the update special to your uniqeu ps3 key and not whith a file on a file from a game dvd.

      Just some reflxion from someone that have old old knowledge in cryptation and are far far away from updated.

      /illern
    1. yes159's Avatar
      yes159 -
      Quote Originally Posted by jamal94 View Post
      well actually if the device is on 3.72 u can downgrade using e3-flasher usb or similar products :PS3HAX NEWS NEW FLASHER 3.72 DOWNGRADE TO 3.55/
      Sure, downgrade is possible in some cases indeed. But i mean that just downloading a .pup file and install it like it is official firmware (this is how it works today with CFW 3.55), i think these days are over because people cant find the private keys anymore that is needed to sign PS3 files like official files from Sony.

      Maybe it works to install a .pup file for people who are already on CFW 3.55 though, but i dont think that it will work for people who are on firmware 3.56 or higher.


      Quote Originally Posted by jamal94 View Post
      & check my edit
      EDIT: when you have the private key which will be decrypted using meltdr , you can then decrypt any public key that sony release which mean you can decrypt any eboot forever , but the new consoles that come with 3.6+ installed it is different because the meltdr is updated meltdr2 and the patch will not work on it the same way , it need some time for the hackers to bypass the patched meltdr.2 but nothing is confirmed or known
      Yep, it probably wont take that long before someone finds out how to decrypt every eboot.
    1. mcmrc1's Avatar
      mcmrc1 -
      time for all the haters to say thanks to Mathieulh on PS3Crunch for his helps and for what he has done for the ps3 scene...now he helps us again...
    1. fivee's Avatar
      fivee -
      Quote Originally Posted by craig0r View Post
      If Sony did this, all games made prior to the current firmware would stop working. If 3.73 were to prevent apps made in any previous SDK, games that people legitimately bought say, 2 months ago or older would just stop working.
      no, there's a reason why jaicrab is creating a cfw not based in 3.55 but in 3.40. and that is that 3.55 has extra security measures. Thus the hole "peek/poke" odissy on the 3.55 cfw, yes egohot added a way to install a signed app, though that only allowed running games in mm that suported direct boot or using psn pills that also had some limitations, you dindnt had any of the syscall's that where in cfw 3.4. So if someone just adds a "install package" to a 3.73 FW, then that would be just the first step in making a fully featured cfw.

      On another note, i'd like to point out that decrypting epubs to allow them to run in a lower cfw will also end up not working, since has the SDK's evolve the apps may require more than just a firmware claiming its up to date.
    1. themuse's Avatar
      themuse -
      well what ever happened to the idea of having 2 nors or 2 nands , and being able to grab keys that way? there was alot of talk of this around the time the progskeet and the pnm project the and meta something came out, wasnt one of those that has a board with 2 nors on it supposed to be able to get the keys that way, we havent heard anything about those projects, except we did get the e3 flasher and dual booting, but i thought there was talk of these projects being able to use a method math told about a long way back of how to you could grab the keys with 2 nands or nors
    1. megatoto's Avatar
      megatoto -
      STOP HARASSING MATT / DH / TUHTA / WANINKOKO / HERMES etc
      PS3 scene is dead no more great exploit in the future, only some rare no0b / dev eboot stealing fix... DUE to Sony new strategy : using to many fakers users on psxscene and other ps3 forums to post troll to disgush every promising hacker & to encourage them to quit the scene or stop their project or going private
      Haters work for Sony & kill the scene, don't follow them !
      No need a trial, they only need some troll on forum & stupid no0b follower to kill Geo, Waninlkoko (insulted for his bugged early CFW), DH, TUHTAH and now MATT...They are really smart cause it WORKS ! no more hacker = no more great exploit, only evil money machine exploit with stupid dongle drm...
    1. yes159's Avatar
      yes159 -
      Quote Originally Posted by fivee View Post
      On another note, i'd like to point out that decrypting epubs to allow them to run in a lower cfw will also end up not working, since has the SDK's evolve the apps may require more than just a firmware claiming its up to date.
      Indeed. I'm surprised why Sony hasnt done this already. Just add some simple checks in the new SDK that can only be read by newer PS3 firmwares.
    1. bobbintb's Avatar
      bobbintb -
      mathieulh, ignore all those stupid script kiddies and greedy little shits. there are actually grateful people in the scene, unfortunately i do understand that there are less of them (us) and they are quieter than the loud and obnoxious selfish group. thanks for this. your work is appreciated.
    1. bitsbubba's Avatar
      bitsbubba -
      Quote Originally Posted by megatoto View Post
      STOP HARASSING MATT / DH / TUHTA / WANINKOKO / HERMES etc
      PS3 scene is dead no more great exploit in the future, only some rare no0b / dev eboot stealing fix... DUE to Sony new strategy : using to many fakers users on psxscene and other ps3 forums to post troll to disgush every promising hacker & to encourage them to quit the scene or stop their project or going private
      Haters work for Sony & kill the scene, don't follow them !
      No need a trial, they only need some troll on forum & stupid no0b follower to kill Geo, Waninlkoko (insulted for his bugged early CFW), DH, TUHTAH and now MATT...They are really smart cause it WORKS ! no more hacker = no more great exploit, only evil money machine exploit with stupid dongle drm...
      lol you're funny, so since I hate on Math I work for $0ny. I hate on Math because of the way he as acted towards me in the past. As for the others never really talk to Geohot, Hermes was a good guy, no problem with Waninkoko (even though v1 killed my phat), DH & Tuhta have yet to show any real proof. Now let's continue on Graf was a hell of a guy, glevland is pretty cool, Kakaroto (although we had a misunderstanding) I have the upmost respect for. I could go on and on

      If the "self proclaimed God of the PS3 Scene" wasn't such an egotistical *ss maybe he wouldn't get so much slack
    1. megatoto's Avatar
      megatoto -
      Quote Originally Posted by bobbintb View Post
      mathieulh, ignore all those stupid script kiddies and greedy little shits. there are actually grateful people in the scene, unfortunately i do understand that there are less of them (us) and they are quieter than the loud and obnoxious selfish group. thanks for this. your work is appreciated.
      +1000
      A huge majority of people want to thanx the scene contributors like MATT or WANINKOKO even if they have made some mistakes in the past...or keep some projects secret or private at first to avoid Sony taking court action...and waiting for the best time & way to release them (later / anonymous release / leak / ect.)
      Haters do so much noise and buzz but even if you see so many hatters posts from only a very small number of people that always trolling, don't desesperate, don't forget the huge majority of psx scene that silently follow the scene and are very grateful to MATT / WANINKOKO / GEO / DH / KMEAW / HERMES / THUTA etc...
    1. bitsbubba's Avatar
      bitsbubba -
      Quote Originally Posted by megatoto View Post
      +1000
      A huge majority of people want to thanx the scene contributors like MATT or WANINKOKO even if they have made some mistakes in the past...or keep some projects secret or private at first to avoid Sony taking court action...and waiting for the best time & way to release them (later / anonymous release / leak / ect.)
      Haters do so much noise and buzz but even if you see so many hatters posts from only a very small number of people that always trolling, don't desesperate, don't forget the huge majority of psx scene that silently follow the scene and are very grateful to MATT / WANINKOKO / GEO / DH / KMEAW / HERMES / THUTA etc...
      it's MATH not MATT, I am not saying that he's not a great contributer to the scene, he just need to tone down the "I'm better than you" attitude
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