JFW DH 3.41 & JFW DH 3.56 MA - Questions and Answers

[Menace]

well if the cfw is real (which i for some reason i think it is), then i'll bet anything we'll start seeing new games/patches patched for this fw all over the net.

then this whole depending on demonisos uploading/proof of ownership crap will go out the window for most part.


everyone is just sick of waiting.....i bet it won't even come out this month.


oh well....more waiting i guess.

[greyest]

Sounds rubbish to me.How could there be a "workaround" or "exploid" of decrypting a gamefile.
Gamefile (encrypted) -> algorithm+key -> Gamefile (decrypted) -> startable
without it being decrypted by the system, there is no way of obtaining a runable gamefile

I also can't understand how is that the "keys aren't needed".

[kbf]

So what is this? will we 3.56+ users getting a CFW finally? my damn blu ray drive could die any day now and I want to start backing up my games...if sony implemented this feature to begin with I would not even care about CFW...

[cannibal20]

im not sure but i think this whole ripping the whole game and uploading it isnt right, i think everyones missing the point. i am pretty sure its just a plugin download for each game. its really hard to tell. i know a lot of people would like the demonisos thing cleared up. hopefully it works out

[Dfvm000]

Guys, let me make this clear :

-You need an original game (it can be PS3, PS2 or PSP) to be ''uploaded'' (a tutorial will be made so you can do your own backup) to their sharing site. You'll need proof that you have the game. They'll ask for a pic of the cover of the game + a paper with the username that you have on their site

-Once you upload your game, you'll have access to the rest of the games.

-If you don't like it, you just wait until the patches are on the web. (which, IMO, will be as soon as their sharing site is on).

[Mad Wolf]

I also can't understand how is that the "keys aren't needed".

only if they found a way to stop checking (keys) part !!!

[Bartholomy]

That's why i hate google translator

so aehm just one question .. they generate a pup file to launch the backup of a game ? what exactly keeps us from sharing those pups?

You download a plugin from DH servers, able to give to your game any library needed to run, skipping the firmware missing error

hola soy nuevo en esto y no lo comprendo entonces yo tengo el 3.55 significa eso que para poner el nuevo cfw tengo que bajar a 3.41 o subir a 3.56 por favor que alguien me ayude gracias un saludo: Facepalm:: Facepalm:: Cry:: Cry:: Cry:

3.55--->3.41---->3.41DH JFW

yeah cool story. What if I cant downgrade, what if i bought my ps3 with 3.50 ofw? Why 3.41 and 3.56? this is really stupid....

if your console have a base with 3.50 as lower, you will use 3.56MA

I don't see any answer about DualBoot I'm on 3.15 with OtherOS and YellowDog1 : DH Firmware have a dual boot fonction ?2 : All Linux distribution is compatible, of course PPC version3 : DH Firmware have a décrypted gameos partition or no ?4 : Easy to install Linux ?5 : for the moment no more

If you're using linux with otheros of 3.15 firmware, you will lose it, because 3.41DH doesn't include otheros. Actually. This doesn't means DH is trying to make it work.

i would be more concerned with this

356MA is intended for people with base 356, but if you're at 350 so far suggest any custom 355, as 356MA not have even the peek / poke many homebrew

so if im reading this correctly since i have a ps3 that came with earlier than 3.5 and im on 3.55 i cant use this...so much for the ap patch we have been waiting since portal 2

3.56MA doesn't use peek poke, just use pkg, downloaded from DH servers. The game will run properly, without any use of a manager.

i dont see the big problem here, you get to play the new games like u want. and you get to keep your emulators and backup launchers. not to mention, it seems like maybe u just download the plugin the one time. if u really wanted to pirate the game, might as well just rent it. back it up. download the plugin. take it back. go to one of the places that lets u choose how many days u want it. i know theres a place near my house where you can just pay for one rental day for real cheap. im sure from the demo video, however, that you wont be able to play these new games without having them in the drive at all times. even so, if u wanna play and pirate portal 2 go flash a 360.

True. But remember, every new patch released from the game creator, means you have to rent your game again, for a new plugin. Does it worth, or was better buy a second hand BD game, original?

If you have to downgrade to 3.41 then we wont have access to PSN and you still have to have the original disc in the drive. I`m confused on how this is better than just updating to OFW were you will have access to PSN and still have the game in the drive.

Disc is in the drive just during the plugin download process. After, just if a particular game needs of it, you can leavve any BD game inside, (ACbrotherhood for example)

I am confused, I have CFW 3.55 can I over write my current firmware with this one? I have A old fat 60 ps3

Ye, just downgrade to 3.41 then 3.41DH

lol I love how all the pretentious pricks here are calling us cheap because I rather spend my money on something more productive to me, like rent or saving for a new car, rather than waste it on a hobby such as video games. Well guess what?? I don't give a crap what you guys think. Fact is, that like said before, over 90% of the people around here stick around only in hope of a new CFW/solution to play 3.6x games, FREE OF CHARGE. Without it, the scene is dead. I mean c'mon, news are so slow the staff actually posted PSP news here!. PSP!!!

Well, i buy and resell my games when completed, honestly

ok i dont get it and i need help here plz i have ps3 slim 250 on 3.55 cfw rebug does JW will work with me and if not how i can downgrade and how i know that my ps3 was on 3.41 or higher plz help here

there are a couple of good guides, for downgrade. Read our forum

i want to ask u someting i have slim 250 with firmware 3.55 rebug and i think my base is 3.50 but i updated it to 3.55 OFW so is there a chance to make this JW work plz i need to play this games i cant wait and i cant buy it ( HELLLLP

There is a tool, released couple days ago, able to check your lower firmware possible. Just to be sure. If 3.50 will be your answer, use 3.56MA

It's a launch 60GB and I'm on 3.55 kmeaw. Is there hope?

Yes, be sure

Basically the article says that there is an Xploid that let you play 3.6+ and 3.7+ games, because Team hades have found a way to bypass the keys check when the backup game launches. BUT only legally owners of game can run backup games, you have to patch the games with the tool they have implemented (the xploid they found). Team Hades have a site where you can upload your legally ISO games then they path it and you can download it again patched for their "specially custom firmware". You can download other JFW pathched ISO games if you have the Original Disc game. Only the tool they discover to bypass the 3.6+ an 3.7+ keys works in 3.41

No, you have to download just the plugin of your game, from the archive, if allowed owning the BD, original

every day i hate ps3 more viva 360 and 360's scene ... time to complete m league (FIFA12), and then play a lil on dark souls (online!) on m 360

Lol, enjoy

This sounds pretty weak from a technical standpoint.

It'd be good if:
-you can get games patched (ideally by pkg and bootable directly from xmb) without having to upload the entire iso of a game (assuming what @caracas says is true)
-you can run those games later on without a disc
-you can play existing backups and homebrew as usual

I don't give a **** about buying games, but being able to play them without needing a disc is an amazing convenience.

If those 3 criteria can be satisfied then it could be pretty good. The only people who'd complain are those with busted drives and pirating faggots.

PKG are mostly used for 3.56MA users. 3.41 users will use a plugin. Ye, you can run the game without your disk, later. Ye, Homebrew works as usual. Disc is needed if you want to play your game for long. If you're done, just sell it.

I also can't understand how is that the "keys aren't needed".

Keys are not needed, because your plugin gives to your game what needed to load properly, skipping the missing firmware error

[polki333]

This is an excerpt(google translated) from the official update thread for JFW DH and I'm choosing to take it as good news: The only custom firmware capable of taking the keys with a dual nand 3.6x (programmer) PNM such as it allows the custom appldr redirect to another area of the ram and so does not remove the old

[CS67700]

Like said before in these comments from various peoples, this demonisos download shit will go down few weeks after the release. The plugin will mostly be disassembled and peoples will look into it (Sony + other devs) and find out how it works. We will probably be able, from there, to make our own PKG patchs for the games skipping the BD check. It's been the case with every dongle, why would it be different with this CFW ?

[Bartholomy]

Like said before in these comments from various peoples, this demonisos download shit will go down few weeks after the release. The plugin will mostly be disassembled and peoples will look into it (Sony + other devs) and find out how it works. We will probably be able, from there, to make our own PKG patchs for the games skipping the BD check. It's been the case with every dongle, why would it be different with this CFW ?

Hehe, i hope you're right

[divisionbyzero]

Guys, let me make this clear :

-You need an original game (it can be PS3, PS2 or PSP) to be ''uploaded'' (a tutorial will be made so you can do your own backup) to their sharing site. You'll need proof that you have the game. They'll ask for a pic of the cover of the game + a paper with the username that you have on their site

-Once you upload your game, you'll have access to the rest of the games.

-If you don't like it, you just wait until the patches are on the web. (which, IMO, will be as soon as their sharing site is on).

this is like 'break the support disk' all over again...

[DevilGun]

Guys, you can't just "stop checking the keys part". The System isn't checking the keys. The System holds Keys - once an eboot is started, the system trys to decrypt it with its keys. If you "stop checking the keys part" you stop decrypting the game - so you dont get a runable eboot.How could they possibly be able to execute an encrypted game? There is no readable code to be executet...Providing an eboot replacement? How should that be possible - Even for PC games, you cant just create a game .exe from scratch. And without having the real .exe, you cant crack it.Since the eboots are encrypted, you dont have the "real" eboot, just some rubbish.What are they going to do? Creating a "plugin" that knows how to load all the gamedata? How, in my opinion: impossible!

[Warning]

Guys, you can't just "stop checking the keys part". The System isn't checking the keys. The System holds Keys - once an eboot is started, the system trys to decrypt it with its keys. If you "stop checking the keys part" you stop decrypting the game - so you dont get a runable eboot.How could they possibly be able to execute an encrypted game? There is no readable code to be executet...Providing an eboot replacement? How should that be possible - Even for PC games, you cant just create a game .exe from scratch. And without having the real .exe, you cant crack it.Since the eboots are encrypted, you dont have the "real" eboot, just some rubbish.What are they going to do? Creating a "plugin" that knows how to load all the gamedata? How, in my opinion: impossible!

Could they use the sdk to create a new eboot and sign it with 3.55 keys ?

[Bartholomy]

Guys, you can't just "stop checking the keys part". The System isn't checking the keys. The System holds Keys - once an eboot is started, the system trys to decrypt it with its keys. If you "stop checking the keys part" you stop decrypting the game - so you dont get a runable eboot.How could they possibly be able to execute an encrypted game? There is no readable code to be executet...Providing an eboot replacement? How should that be possible - Even for PC games, you cant just create a game .exe from scratch. And without having the real .exe, you cant crack it.Since the eboots are encrypted, you dont have the "real" eboot, just some rubbish.What are they going to do? Creating a "plugin" that knows how to load all the gamedata? How, in my opinion: impossible!

Yep, plugin gives to the game what needed to load and skip the missing firmware error. Last video shows how does it work. Take a look

[DevilGun]

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[DevilGun]

Could they use the sdk to create a new eboot and sign it with 3.55 keys ?

No, thats like i said: writing it from scratch - not possible, since they dont know, what the original eboot really does. An eboot is not just a simple "starter", its more than that.

[Bartholomy]

No, thats like i said: writing it from scratch - not possible, since they dont know, what the original eboot really does. An eboot is not just a simple "starter", its more than that.

okok, it's magic, pal

[arismendy64]

hola soy nuevo en esto y no lo comprendo entonces yo tengo el 3.55 significa eso que para poner el nuevo cfw tengo que bajar a 3.41 o subir a 3.56 por favor que alguien me ayude gracias un saludo: Facepalm:: Facepalm:: Cry:: Cry:: Cry:

usa el MinVerChk
para saber cual es el minimo firware que tu ps3 salio de factoria

use MinVerChk
to know which is the minimum firware that your ps3 came out from factory

si es 3.41 o menos bueno,3.50 o mas necesitas un modchip para bajar.

[greyest]

only if they found a way to stop checking (keys) part !!!

Keys are not needed, because your plugin gives to your game what needed to load properly, skipping the missing firmware error

But... but the files are ENCRYPTED anyway. First they need to be decrypted for ps3 could run them and that's impossible without the keys, isn't it?


I don't believe in this until they at leats very basically hint how they manage to run encrypted files or decrypt them without keys.

[really_wacky]

Can't stop laughing at this pic due to the lousy translation for the word "soldering".

Hahaha that picture is some really bad photoshoping But that makes it even funnier

LETS WELD THAT CHIP